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The Origin of Specious Nonsense. Twelve years on. Still going. Answer soon.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    It's an image J C, I found it on the internet. You're helping its evil spread by quoting me :eek:

    Ah bugger the hope.
    ... so you have no hope - is that what you are saying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Not the kind you're on about, no.
    It doesn't have to be that way. Jesus will Save you ... if you ask Him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    J C wrote: »
    It doesn't have to be that way. Jesus will Save you ... if you ask Him.

    Can I ask him for magic beans too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Bugger him as well.
    May the peace and love of Jesus Christ be with you.
    Say but the word ... and you shall be Saved ... and don't let anybody tell you otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    J C wrote: »
    May the peace and love of Jesus Christ be with you.
    Say but the word ... and you shall be Saved ... and don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

    Since you're preaching that ****e in here will it be ok for me to head to the Christianity forum and start preaching to the the bible thumpers about how they should convert to satanic rituals to be saved?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Is it just the peace and love of Jesus that's with me?

    What about the other gods? Do they not love me enough and I'm only good enough for Jesus? :(


  • Moderators Posts: 52,035 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Nye said he'd be convinced if evidence was provided. Ham isn't open to being wrong, the antithesis of scientific inquiry.

    What a shocker that JC said Ham won:rolleyes:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Since you're preaching that ****e in here will it be ok for me to head to the Christianity forum and start preaching to the the bible thumpers about how they should convert to satanic rituals to be saved?
    I have no control over the Christinity forum ...
    ... but could I point out that as Satan cannot even save himself ... there is no Satanic ritual by which anybody can be saved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    It's ok, I'm reliably informed Odin loves you too.

    He's way cooler anyway.
    What about his son?

    He's hot and Australian, I could definitely deal with that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Is it just the peace and love of Jesus that's with me?

    What about the other gods? Do they not love me enough and I'm only good enough for Jesus? :(
    Jesus Christ came to save sinners ... like you ... and me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    That's just what Jesus wants you to think. Me and Satan are close and he says otherwise :cool:
    Satan thinks that he is superior to God allright ... but that is just his pride blinding him.

    The created (including Satan) are logically (and actually) inferior to the Creator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    J C wrote: »
    Jesus Christ came to save sinners ... like you ... and me.

    If god wanted people to be saved from their sins couldnt he have done it by getting rid of sins? He did create them after all and has the ability to get rid of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    J C wrote: »
    Jesus Christ came to save sinners ... like you ... and me.

    That wasn't my question at all...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    J C wrote: »
    Satan thinks that he is superior to God allright ... but that is just his pride blinding him.

    The created (including Satan) are logically (and actually) inferior to the Creator.

    Heh heh

    Logic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    SW wrote: »
    Nye said he'd be convinced if evidence was provided. Ham isn't open to being wrong, the antithesis of scientific inquiry.

    What a shocker that JC said Ham won:rolleyes:

    Ham also said in 'answer' to more than one question "there is this book..." without going on to show why his magic book explains anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    If god wanted people to be saved from their sins couldnt he have done it by getting rid of sins? He did create them after all and has the ability to get rid of them.
    God didn't create sin ... Adam and Eve did that themselves ... and, as their direct descendants, we are all living with the terrible consequences ever since.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    J C wrote: »
    God didn't create sin ... Adam and Eve did that themselves ... and, as their direct descendants, we are all living with the terrible consequences ever since.

    And how do you know this exactly? Voices that none of the rest of us can hear?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    That's one hell of a grudge. Expalin to me how your God is loving again?

    And forgiving, Don't forget forgiving :rolleyes:


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    J C, will you at least accept that Ken Ham was anti-science when he said that there is nothing that can change his mind about his beliefs? Will you, as a self-proclaimed scientist, agree that Bill Nye is truer to the ethos of science when he says that what it takes to change his mind is evidence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    But what if you're wrong J C and the roles are reversed? If I were the greatest evil in the universe I know I'd be trying to convince everyone I'm actually a kind and loving despotic overlord God.
    ... they might try that ... but it would be obvious that they were a great evil ... and their strategy would quickly switch to oppression.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    J C, will you at least accept that Ken Ham was anti-science when he said that there is nothing that can change his mind about his beliefs? Will you, as a self-proclaimed scientist, agree that Bill Nye is truer to the ethos of science when he says that what it takes to change his mind is evidence?
    The physical evidence is there to support the hypothesis that a being of god-like proportions Created the Universe and all life therein ... so Bill Nye isn't doing what he said he would.
    ... sounds like both of them are strongly committed to their beliefs.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    J C wrote: »
    The physical evidence is there to support the hypothesis that a being of god-like proportions Created the Universe and all life therein ... so Bill Nye isn't doing what he said he would.
    ... sounds like both of them are strongly committed to their beliefs.
    I'll take that as a "no", which strongly gives the lie to your repeated claim to being a scientist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    That's one hell of a grudge. Expalin to me how your God is loving again?
    Despite Humanities rejection of Him ... He has provided the Way for us to be Saved ... while remaining perfectly just as well as perfectly merciful ... and that Way is Jesus Christ ... who, by His Cross and Resurrection has redeemed the World.

    Our Salvation has been bought at a great price ... the incarnation and death of God.

    ... and all any of us has to do is to accept it and repent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    J C wrote: »
    Despite Humanities rejection of Him ... He has provided the Way for us to be Saved ... while remaining perfectly just as well as perfectly merciful ... and that Way is Jesus Christ ... who, by His Cross and Resurrection has redeemed the World.

    Saved us from what, and save us from what exactly?

    It's basically the line your mother told you when you were younger. Behave or else you'll get it, except I know the wooden spoon she had existed, what is god threatening me with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Will pigs fly?
    Pigs will never fly (except possible on an intelligently designed aircraft) ... yet another reason why 'Pondkind to Mankind Evolution' never happened.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Saved us from what, and save us from what exactly?

    It's basically the line your mother told you when you were younger. Behave or else you'll get it, except I know the wooden spoon she had existed, what is god threatening me with?
    Saved from ourselves and our pride ...
    ... and the analogy is more like what your parents may have told you when you reached 18 ...
    ... you're now an adult ... and you are now fully responsible for your actions ... from which good or evil can flow.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    J C wrote: »
    Saved from ourselves and our pride ...
    ... and the analogy is more like what your parents may have told you when you reached 18 ...
    ... you're now an adult ... and you are now fully responsible for your actions ... from which good or evil can flow.:)
    Be saved from myself? Yeah I don't think so.

    Do the other gods feel the same way, or is it just Jesus?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    J C wrote: »
    God didn't create sin ... Adam and Eve did that themselves ... and, as their direct descendants, we are all living with the terrible consequences ever since.

    What did God think would happen when they ate the fruit he told them not to eat? "Hey guy, just do me a favor and dont eat that stuff over there. It does....something.....we're still looking into what it is but I doubt its good."

    If god was truly powerful he would be able to remove sin without needing any ritual. That along with the fact he couldn't keep an eye on 2 people makes him look quite incompetent. Im not even going to start on the whole incest thing.
    J C wrote: »
    Saved from ourselves and our pride ...
    ... and the analogy is more like what your parents may have told you when you reached 18 ...
    ... you're now an adult ... and you are now fully responsible for your actions ... from which good or evil can flow.:)

    Also responsible for out ancestors. Should the child of a criminal be forced to complete the sentence of their parents?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    J C wrote: »
    Respect is the way to go.:)

    Why should I respect someone who is deliberately lying to me (Ken Ham)?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    I'll take that as a "no", which strongly gives the lie to your repeated claim to being a scientist.

    Given his posting level on the site, I'd put good money on JC failing his 11+.


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