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Healthy Young Giraffe Killed By Zoo in Denmark

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Giraffes didn't exist a few years go.

    Then...

    Chuck Norris uppercuts a donkey that's p!ssing him off.
    ???
    GIRAFFE!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Mickey H wrote: »
    Giraffes didn't exist a few years go.

    Then...

    Chuck Norris uppercuts a donkey that's p!ssing him off.
    ???
    GIRAFFE!!

    Sounds a bit like Lemarc's theory of transmutation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Better to cull the herd than let the population suffer from inbreeding.
    Short term pain for long term gain.

    That's not a very nice thing to say about Tipperary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Could they not just have castrated him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,929 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Its a disgrace. The next thing you know, they'll be euthanising the penguins to feed the polar bears (which are poles apart), feeding the Capybara to the Anaconda, the meerkats to the african wild dogs and the Gorillas to the Ugandans


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭AlanG


    :(

    Poor creature. If money was an issue they should have crowd sourced the funding for his transfer to the wildlife park in England, where he would have benefited the herd by bringing in new genetics to them. Seems so wrong...
    I think the argument is that there was not park or zoo in the breeding program that he would not have caused inbreeding within. Introducing him to one of these herds may have stopped diverse healthy breeding. If the wildlife park was not part of the European breeding program then they should explain why not. They may have made the offer knowing they couldn't be accepted but would get lots of publicity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    Its the lions I blame. The real culprits. Look at the face of that lion, he had it planned all along.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..

    So you are against it? Is it any more sick than carving the Christmas turkey in front of the kids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..

    The parents were given a choice as to whether kids would see it or not. I see it as educational.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..

    Children, families and zoo attendees were invited to watch the autopsy. Fantastically educational opportunity. City kids are often too soft and flinch at the sight of blood, anyone who's ever spent any time on a farm or with breeding animals are only too familiar with the ups and downs of life and the gory bits in between.

    The giraffe was inbred and had to be put down, it's a shame but it was a necessity in the greater scheme of things. Besides which, the lions had a mighty feed out of it. Y'all know that the food the lions get every day is coming from other animals too right?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    those poor children are going to grow up thinking that meat comes from animals instead of supermarkets now, it's disgusting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭The_Pretender


    They could definitely have done with explaining it better than they have.

    While I don't know all the details, Yorkshire Wildlife Park had already taken a young male giraffe from Copenhagen in 2012, so surely it's possible that he was some how related to Marius and thus it would have been counter productive to send another of a similar genetic make up.

    But like I said, I'm only speculating. Even if it is the case though, the zoo should have known this would happen and should have not bred his parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Not really a total waste, the zoo said they'd use the carcass to feed some other zoo animals.

    Afaik this is what they do when they cull the deer in Phoenix park. Some are given to feed the predators in the park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..

    Do you something wrong with skinning an animal in front of kids?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    Afaik this is what they do when they cull the deer in Phoenix park. Some are given to feed the predators in the park

    There's no natural predators in the park per se, there are scavengers like foxes or birds. Badgers are mostly insectivores and love a good earthworm, but they're not considered predators of the natural fauna of the park.

    /semantic sally.

    The deer culled are no longer left for wildlife to dispose of though, they're sold on by the NPWS and usually used for human consumption.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    kylith wrote: »
    Could they not just have castrated him?
    I heard that they said castration was cruel, and could lead to some difficulties. I wondered why they could not do a vasectomy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Jerrica wrote: »
    Children, families and zoo attendees were invited to watch the autopsy. Fantastically educational opportunity. City kids are often too soft and flinch at the sight of blood, anyone who's ever spent any time on a farm or with breeding animals are only too familiar with the ups and downs of life and the gory bits in between.

    The giraffe was inbred and had to be put down, it's a shame but it was a necessity in the greater scheme of things. Besides which, the lions had a mighty feed out of it. Y'all know that the food the lions get every day is coming from other animals too right?

    He wasn't inbred, he was perfectly healthy and viable. They claim he had to be killed to avoid the risk of in-breeding because his genes are common in the zoo population and he might eventually get it on with a relative.

    I think it is a big shame he was put down, especially with other zoos offering to look after him. He could have been kept away from any related females or some other solution found. But, you can be sure 90% of people complaining about this happily munch away on dead cows and pigs, so frankly yiz can all go jump for all I care. Stop eating dead animals and maybe you'll have a leg to stand on.

    I'm all for the kids seeing it once it was done, though. Knowing that something actually has to die before it magics onto your plate is great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    release him into the wild at least he would have some chance of surviving


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    Apologies Zillah, you're right, he was a viable young male.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭deandean


    Jeez the video footage of the giraffe being butchered in front of children is shocking. They'll have trouble getting to sleep for a while.

    The zookeepers could have let the giraffe into the lion's enclosure and let nature take it's course. Like what happens in the wild.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    release him into the wild at least he would have some chance of surviving
    deandean wrote: »
    Jeez the video footage of the giraffe being butchered in front of children is shocking. They'll have trouble getting to sleep for a while.

    The zookeepers could have let the giraffe into the lion's enclosure and let nature take it's course. Like what happens in the wild.

    Why is it shocking?
    Do we hide the chicken in the garden shed as we lop off it's legs for drumsticks, or is all that the kids are seeing now chicken nuggets? When I was a kid, a butcher used come to our house with a side of pork or beef and butcher it on the kitchen table. My mother used to put it in the big chest freezer, and we ate it for the next 6 months. There is nothing shocking about it. Nobody had trouble sleeping, we knew where our meat came from.

    Abandoning an animal who has only known captivity into the wild would be very cruel, might as well just let him into the lions enclosure as suggested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Why is it shocking?
    Do we hide the chicken in the garden shed as we lop off it's legs for drumsticks, or is all that the kids are seeing now chicken nuggets? When I was a kid, a butcher used come to our house with a side of pork or beef and butcher it on the kitchen table. My mother used to put it in the big chest freezer, and we ate it for the next 6 months. There is nothing shocking about it. Nobody had trouble sleeping, we knew where our meat came from.

    Abandoning an animal who has only known captivity into the wild would be very cruel, might as well just let him into the lions enclosure as suggested.


    Ahem..... http://artobserved.com/artimages/2008/10/chicken-nuggets-banksy.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I believe it's hard to put a giraffe under anesthetic because of the size and heart. Also if he's not in the breeding program then it's going to be expensive to feed.

    Thirdly it's a giraffe for fook sake, who cases


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    deandean wrote: »
    Jeez the video footage of the giraffe being butchered in front of children is shocking. They'll have trouble getting to sleep for a while.

    The zookeepers could have let the giraffe into the lion's enclosure and let nature take it's course. Like what happens in the wild.

    Well not really because he would be trapped in it. In the wild, he can run.

    Seems like a cheap way of providing lions with food.

    Sometimes I hear man calling animals 'beasts'. At times, it seems ironic to say the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The zoo did the right thing and having children watching was a great education for them, some people want to sanitise things and remove themselves from reality.
    The giraffe had a nice death, and much better than a giraffe on the plains in Africa where lions might have torn him apart while still alive.

    The zoo had the most qualified people to make the decision and I believe they made the right one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Well not really because he would be trapped in it. In the wild, he can run.

    Seems like a cheap way of providing lions with food.

    Sometimes I hear man calling animals 'beasts'. At times, it seems ironic to say the least.

    Awsome for the lions though! Can you imagine the blue balls on a lion that spends it's days staring across at the Giraffe enclosure, day in, day out?
    It would be like a monk getting unleashed in the Playboy mansion!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 580 ✭✭✭JumpShivers


    What I found absolutely distasteful, one of the newspapers (I cannot remember which one), published a picture of a lion and lioness finishing the poor creature.

    Horrible story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    conorhal wrote: »
    Awsome for the lions though! Can you imagine the blue balls on a lion that spends it's days staring across at the Giraffe enclosure, day in, day out?
    It would be like a monk getting unleashed in the Playboy mansion!

    ;)
    There is wisdom in this post. No question about that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    conorhal wrote: »
    Awsome for the lions though! Can you imagine the blue balls on a lion that spends it's days staring across at the Giraffe enclosure, day in, day out?
    It would be like a monk getting unleashed in the Playboy mansion!

    I think you're confusing urges there!
    Lions like to hunt and eat other animals, not ride them!


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