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Healthy Young Giraffe Killed By Zoo in Denmark

  • 09-02-2014 10:27pm
    #1
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,101 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    This is a very sad story. A zoo in Copenhagen, Denmark killed a healthy young giraffe because "his genes were well represented among the existing giraffes at the zoo."

    What a tragic waste - especially considering that a wildlife park in England was offering to take the animal.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Not really a total waste, the zoo said they'd use the carcass to feed some other zoo animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    Not really a total waste, the zoo said they'd use the carcass to feed some other zoo animals.

    You've got some neck posting that.

    I'll get me coat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Is Giraffe tasty? Never had it...waste of BBQ opportunity really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭winston82


    cml387 wrote: »
    You've got some neck posting that.

    I'll get me coat.

    Are you having a giraffe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,862 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    cml387 wrote: »
    You've got some neck posting that.

    I'll get me coat.

    Get your okapi as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You're having a Giraffe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Mariasofia


    They have some neck on them.....!!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭sawdoubters


    cost too much to ship to another country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭picturehangup


    plus one with cml387

    A total disgrace, especially when a suitable alternative had been offered by a wildlife park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭Merrion


    It does undermine the general zoo claim to be a reservoir against extinctions...

    But this is AH so - eh - it's the circle of life?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    Autopsied it in front of a bunch of school kids too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    They fed it to lions, I believe. Considering if the lion and giraffe were back in their native homeland, the lion would have been chasing the giraffe for dinner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Better to cull the herd than let the population suffer from inbreeding.
    Short term pain for long term gain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Merrion wrote: »
    But this is AH so - eh - it's the circle of life?

    What on earth do you hippies be smoking? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12 TheFatness


    MadsL wrote: »
    Is Giraffe tasty? Never had it...waste of BBQ opportunity really.

    I asked for it in a restaurant once but the waiter said it was a tall order.

    Sorry but this joke is nothing short of genius.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    And nobody heard his scream.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    It's terrible, truly terrible. They should feed the lions on political correctness, do-goodery and hippy love like they do in every other zoo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Merrion wrote: »
    It does undermine the general zoo claim to be a reservoir against extinctions...

    Only the West African Giraffe and the Ugandan Giraffe, are both endangered.
    Giraffes are of least concern.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    :(

    Poor creature. If money was an issue they should have crowd sourced the funding for his transfer to the wildlife park in England, where he would have benefited the herd by bringing in new genetics to them. Seems so wrong... Then you think about all the animals who are perfectly healthy and are put down in pounds here just because their owners or a forever-home can't be found for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Better to cull the herd than let the population suffer from inbreeding.
    Short term pain for long term gain.

    You understand greater genetic variance is a defense against inbreeding?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    TheFatness wrote: »
    I asked for it in a restaurant once

    As did I. The waiter said they were out of the special plates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Breaking News - Cows, Sheep, Pigs and chickens killed in Ireland every day.

    No difference between that and the giraffe in my opinion. I presume animal activists will love this and be kicking up a fuss.

    Last thing we need is inbred giraffes running around acting like scumbags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Surely giraffe meat would be quite tough anyway?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12 TheFatness


    I prefer mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    yawhat! wrote: »
    Breaking News - Cows, Sheep, Pigs and chickens killed in Ireland every day.
    For food. This is a different situation. But I don't know enough details to pass judgement or decide what should have been done instead. I've no doubt all avenues were explored.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    A man walks into a bar with a giraffe and it lies down in front of the fire. (the giraffe, not the man). Barman says to the man, 'You can't leave that lying there'. Man says 'It's not a lion, it's a giraffe'. Barman says 'Oh yeah, for a minute I forgot myself and thought we were in Denmark'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Surely giraffe meat would be quite tough anyway?

    That's why you dry it, turn it into biltong and call it Kudu biltong

    http://jezebel.com/5988002/south-africans-have-accidentally-been-eating-giraffe-and-kangaroo-meat

    146 samples of biltong, dried meat strips that serve as a popular low-fat snack in South Africa, supposedly made of antelope meat, were tested by researchers at the University of Western Cape. Surprise! Not all made of antelope meat.

    All packets labeled 'beef' were found to be correct but 90 percent of biltong sticks supposedly made of kudu - a large, curly-horned antelope - were actually horse, pork, beef, giraffe or even kangaroo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    This thread is giraffing me crazy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    For food. This is a different situation. But I don't know enough details to pass judgement or decide what should have been done instead. I've no doubt all avenues were explored.

    The Giraffe was used for food too, just not for humans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Big C




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Giraffes didn't exist a few years go.

    Then...

    Chuck Norris uppercuts a donkey that's p!ssing him off.
    ???
    GIRAFFE!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Mickey H wrote: »
    Giraffes didn't exist a few years go.

    Then...

    Chuck Norris uppercuts a donkey that's p!ssing him off.
    ???
    GIRAFFE!!

    Sounds a bit like Lemarc's theory of transmutation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Better to cull the herd than let the population suffer from inbreeding.
    Short term pain for long term gain.

    That's not a very nice thing to say about Tipperary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Could they not just have castrated him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Its a disgrace. The next thing you know, they'll be euthanising the penguins to feed the polar bears (which are poles apart), feeding the Capybara to the Anaconda, the meerkats to the african wild dogs and the Gorillas to the Ugandans


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭AlanG


    :(

    Poor creature. If money was an issue they should have crowd sourced the funding for his transfer to the wildlife park in England, where he would have benefited the herd by bringing in new genetics to them. Seems so wrong...
    I think the argument is that there was not park or zoo in the breeding program that he would not have caused inbreeding within. Introducing him to one of these herds may have stopped diverse healthy breeding. If the wildlife park was not part of the European breeding program then they should explain why not. They may have made the offer knowing they couldn't be accepted but would get lots of publicity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    Its the lions I blame. The real culprits. Look at the face of that lion, he had it planned all along.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..

    So you are against it? Is it any more sick than carving the Christmas turkey in front of the kids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..

    The parents were given a choice as to whether kids would see it or not. I see it as educational.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..

    Children, families and zoo attendees were invited to watch the autopsy. Fantastically educational opportunity. City kids are often too soft and flinch at the sight of blood, anyone who's ever spent any time on a farm or with breeding animals are only too familiar with the ups and downs of life and the gory bits in between.

    The giraffe was inbred and had to be put down, it's a shame but it was a necessity in the greater scheme of things. Besides which, the lions had a mighty feed out of it. Y'all know that the food the lions get every day is coming from other animals too right?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    those poor children are going to grow up thinking that meat comes from animals instead of supermarkets now, it's disgusting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭The_Pretender


    They could definitely have done with explaining it better than they have.

    While I don't know all the details, Yorkshire Wildlife Park had already taken a young male giraffe from Copenhagen in 2012, so surely it's possible that he was some how related to Marius and thus it would have been counter productive to send another of a similar genetic make up.

    But like I said, I'm only speculating. Even if it is the case though, the zoo should have known this would happen and should have not bred his parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Not really a total waste, the zoo said they'd use the carcass to feed some other zoo animals.

    Afaik this is what they do when they cull the deer in Phoenix park. Some are given to feed the predators in the park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Autopsy in front of kids ???

    sick c*nts ...


    The sick c*nt is on Pat Kenny now ... asshole ..

    Do you something wrong with skinning an animal in front of kids?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    Afaik this is what they do when they cull the deer in Phoenix park. Some are given to feed the predators in the park

    There's no natural predators in the park per se, there are scavengers like foxes or birds. Badgers are mostly insectivores and love a good earthworm, but they're not considered predators of the natural fauna of the park.

    /semantic sally.

    The deer culled are no longer left for wildlife to dispose of though, they're sold on by the NPWS and usually used for human consumption.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    kylith wrote: »
    Could they not just have castrated him?
    I heard that they said castration was cruel, and could lead to some difficulties. I wondered why they could not do a vasectomy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Jerrica wrote: »
    Children, families and zoo attendees were invited to watch the autopsy. Fantastically educational opportunity. City kids are often too soft and flinch at the sight of blood, anyone who's ever spent any time on a farm or with breeding animals are only too familiar with the ups and downs of life and the gory bits in between.

    The giraffe was inbred and had to be put down, it's a shame but it was a necessity in the greater scheme of things. Besides which, the lions had a mighty feed out of it. Y'all know that the food the lions get every day is coming from other animals too right?

    He wasn't inbred, he was perfectly healthy and viable. They claim he had to be killed to avoid the risk of in-breeding because his genes are common in the zoo population and he might eventually get it on with a relative.

    I think it is a big shame he was put down, especially with other zoos offering to look after him. He could have been kept away from any related females or some other solution found. But, you can be sure 90% of people complaining about this happily munch away on dead cows and pigs, so frankly yiz can all go jump for all I care. Stop eating dead animals and maybe you'll have a leg to stand on.

    I'm all for the kids seeing it once it was done, though. Knowing that something actually has to die before it magics onto your plate is great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    release him into the wild at least he would have some chance of surviving


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    Apologies Zillah, you're right, he was a viable young male.


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