Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

Jamsiek · 09-02-2014 04:26AM

sum41dude wrote: »

What concerns me more than 5 (and an extra few days for setup/teardown ) days of traffic disruption, noise, crowds,litter, etc is the fact that the 2 biggest selling music events in Ireland this year are Garth brooks and one direction. What does that say about us as a society? I saw the Dubliners on Rte earlier, what kinda crowd would they draw now, few hundred, maybe a thousand?

So true, seems ****e music will always be popular in Ireland.
Very depressing when you think off all the talented musicians we produce.

09-02-2014 04:46AM

Is it normal for promoters to sell tickets for an event before they actually get permission to hold it? I thought it would be the other way round.

Smidge · 09-02-2014 04:52AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Is it normal for promoters to sell tickets for an event before they actually get permission to hold it? I thought it would be the other way round.

Its Aiken/Gaa, they fly by the seat of their pants :P

Fred Swanson · 09-02-2014 05:08AM

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bumper234 · 09-02-2014 09:46AM

Friends of mine live on West road in East wall (about half mile from Croke park) went to visit them a couple of years ago when Westlife were playing. Even with windows and door closed you could hear them singing and the noise level goes up quite a bit when 80,000 decide to join in with the chorus. As for parking, several times he has come home from work on concert and match days to find he can't park outside his house because match/concert goers have filled the street. This is half a mile away so can only guess how bad it is on the streets directly surrounding the venue.

JRant · 09-02-2014 10:44AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Is it normal for promoters to sell tickets for an event before they actually get permission to hold it? I thought it would be the other way round.

Once it is done within the permitted time frame then it usually passes off without a hitch. It used to be a minimum of 16 weeks prior to apply for a license but this was shortened to 10 by Phil Hogan at the behest of Aiken promotions a couple of years back. Despite serious objections from DCC as they have had an awful time dealing with Aiken wrt get the proper management plans together in the 16 weeks, never mind 10.

wedger · 09-02-2014 10:52AM

Lets put it like this:
Croke Park & GAA see this as a money making endeavour... Sure that's they're job!
Now if that causes a week and it will be a week or more of disruption, well that's just 'collateral damage'.
What most people here don't know is that this mighty organisation GAA/Croke Park care nothing for community. They make huge amounts of money each year on the back of this disruption, that is rarely complained about and now they feel that they can do as they wish.
Croke Park/GAA are actually suing about 500 locals over the local handball alley/community centre. CP/GAA say they own it but have failed to produce evidence in to court (yes court where they have lost the last few times) to say they actually own the property. So they then resolve to the bully boy tactic of well were the head of the organisation so we want ye out. The handball Center is a registered GAA club with about 500 members so this is the mighty GAA who shout so much about community!!! My Arse!!!

atilladehun · 09-02-2014 11:00AM

I live beside the aviva and the gigs are barely an issue. I'm in the low side and you'd think it'd be clear but you really have to pay attention to make out songs etc. A conversation in my backyard will mask it out. As for traffic it does get bad but tbh its worse on any random wet Friday night. I like the buzz in the area from gigs and matches.

JRant · 09-02-2014 11:08AM

atilladehun wrote: »

I live beside the aviva and the gigs are barely an issue. I'm in the low side and you'd think it'd be clear but you really have to pay attention to make out songs etc. A conversation in my backyard will mask it out. As for traffic it does get bad but tbh its worse on any random wet Friday night. I like the buzz in the area from gigs and matches.

So tell us then how many 5 night in a row concerts have there been in the Aviva and how did they work out for you and the other residents?

Santa Cruz · 09-02-2014 11:17AM

strangel00p wrote: »

Really, you actually think after five nights listening to redneck noise that they would actually want to go and see it?? I used to live very close to Croke park, the behavior of the bog ball fans down for the day was truly disgusting.

As already mentioned, a lot of the residents are elderly, I hope some local TDs arrange to have at least two of the nights cancelled.

They can turn down their hearing aids so

Santa Cruz · 09-02-2014 11:18AM

Jamsiek wrote: »

Yes the awful noise at the stadium, the blinding effects of check shirts and the smell of silage for 5 nights, no thanks.

You need something to disguise the smell of the tenements

gandalf · 09-02-2014 12:37PM

TBH if the GAA/Croke Park have an agreement with the residents and now they are going grossly over what was agreed then yes the residents are perfectly entitled to complain and even ask that the additional concerts be cancelled. It would be interesting if 5 (or even 6) Garth Brooks concerts turn into one, we might actually have the catalyst for revolution in the country LOL!

However I can see greed win the day here and the residents being dumped on again. A week of severe disruption because of mediocre music is an insult to any right thinking human being.

John_Rambo · 09-02-2014 02:18PM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

Its any wonder Dublin is a proper hole with the people in it.

I lived in Drumcondra for a short period and moved out because of this sort of attitude from people attending sports events and concerts. The littering, defecation, urinating, fighting, roaring, screaming etc... whenever I said something it was met with exactly attitude displayed by HardLuckWoman;88906694.

"Sure Dublin's a kip anyway..."

From elderly people throwing their tinfoil and sandwich crusts in to peoples gardens to a young man defecating in someones driveway with his friends cheering him on... seen it all and I wouldn't be keen on five nights of Garth Brooks on my doorstep.

Comparing it to the Volvo Ocean Race is a joke. We have plenty of similar festival type things in Dublin such as the Tall Ships. Different ballgame altogether, free, open to all, various different acts etc...

HardLuckWoman;88906694, that's what you really think of Dublin and it's people. It's a shame Garth Brooks didn't organise a concert somewhere else, for the people of Drumcondra's sake and of course yours.

end of the road · 09-02-2014 05:11PM

gandalf wrote: »

TBH if the GAA/Croke Park have an agreement with the residents and now they are going grossly over what was agreed then yes the residents are perfectly entitled to complain and even ask that the additional concerts be cancelled.

as i said, agreements with residents mean nothing, its the planning stipulations that matter, i believe people are mixing this up or being delusianel to think that the planning stipulation is an agreement with the residents rather then just simply a planning stipulation agreed with DCC which is what it actually is

weldoninhio · 09-02-2014 06:22PM

osarusan wrote: »

Jesus what a depressing thread, full of the most ignorant posters I've ever seen.

"Don't like it? F**k you, not my problem."

"Promoters broke an agreement? F**k you, I don't care."

There was no agreement in place with the promoters.

RiverOfLove · 09-02-2014 09:52PM

Politics.ie has a thread on Garth Brooks. I love politics.ie because it can be so funny.

http://www.politics.ie/forum/culture-community/221738-garth-brooks-5th-date-added-can-you-explain-attraction.html

One post from that thread, I found hiliarious. I'll copy and paste it here:

> That Garth Brooks crowd are well known to be the drunkest bunch of drug fuelled vandals, they will upset the whole area with line dancing syringe induced enthusiasm. Those 400,000 fans will cause mayhem on a scale never seen before, Soddom and Gamorrah in it's heyday, will have nothing on the debauchery inflicted on Ireland for these 5 nights as 80,000 people a night dance and writhe in extacy.

Smidge · 09-02-2014 10:06PM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Politics.ie has a thread on Garth Brooks. I love politics.ie because it can be so funny.

http://www.politics.ie/forum/culture-community/221738-garth-brooks-5th-date-added-can-you-explain-attraction.html

One post from that thread, I found hiliarious. I'll copy and paste it here:

> That Garth Brooks crowd are well known to be the drunkest bunch of drug fuelled vandals, they will upset the whole area with line dancing syringe induced enthusiasm. Those 400,000 fans will cause mayhem on a scale never seen before, Soddom and Gamorrah in it's heyday, will have nothing on the debauchery inflicted on Ireland for these 5 nights as 80,000 people a night dance and writhe in extacy.

I would say thats a fairly accurate assessment all right.

RiverOfLove · 10-02-2014 01:10AM

Here's some easy listening for you Smidgy. It might relax you a bit:

Smidge · 10-02-2014 01:17AM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Here's some easy listening for you Smidgy. It might relax you a bit:

You do realise how childish that comes across, don't you?
If thats the best you have to add to the debate I'll leave it with you and wait for sensible comments.

smileyj1987 · 10-02-2014 01:27AM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Here's some easy listening for you Smidgy. It might relax you a bit:

I wouldn't even press play ! that is mental torture to put someone through that .

Smidge · 10-02-2014 01:29AM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I wouldn't even press play ! that is mental torture to put someone through that .

It would be like knowingly infecting your own computer with a horrible, horrible bloated money grabbing virus :eek::D

smileyj1987 · 10-02-2014 01:33AM

Smidge wrote: »

It would be like knowingly infecting your own computer with a horrible, horrible bloated money grabbing virus :eek::D

Oh don't I know it , I took a career break bla bla bla . All he is doing is grabbing the hard earned money of people desperate to re live their youth .

Smidge · 10-02-2014 01:43AM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Oh don't I know it , I took a career break bla bla bla . All he is doing is grabbing the hard earned money of people desperate to re live their youth .

You know what they say?
"There's no accounting for taste"

I can totally understand the idolisation and groupie-ness with the likes of One Direction, that's what all teenagers do of pretty much all of the recent generations. The Beatles and so on.

But this business with Mr Brooks does reek of desperation and having watched the attitudes of some of his fans to their capitol city and its residents, it comes across as, well.......... sad.

smileyj1987 · 10-02-2014 01:51AM

Smidge wrote: »

You know what they say?
"There's no accounting for taste"

I can totally understand the idolisation and groupie-ness with the likes of One Direction, that's what all teenagers do of pretty much all of the recent generations. The Beatles and so on.

But this business with Mr Brooks does reek of desperation and having watched the attitudes of some of his fans to their capitol city and its residents, it comes across as, well.......... sad.

Ah see the thing is manners cost nothing but some people just don't have them at all .

Ah it is really desperate watching middle aged people wanting to re-live their youths . I mean have a mid life crisis but at least have it to decent music .

Smidge · 10-02-2014 01:59AM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Ah see the thing is manners cost nothing but some people just don't have them at all .

Ah it is really desperate watching middle aged people wanting to re-live their youths . I mean have a mid life crisis but at least have it to decent music .

Totally agree, was always told that "if you had manners you could go anywhere"
It would be awful for that to be your mid life crisis, wouldn't it?
Garth Brooks, and that's your mid life highlight?
That's just..................depressing:eek::p

smileyj1987 · 10-02-2014 02:02AM

Smidge wrote: »

Totally agree, was always told that "if you had manners you could go anywhere"
It would be awful for that to be your mid life crisis, wouldn't it?
Garth Brooks, and that's your mid life highlight?
That's just..................depressing:eek::p

Garth Brooks as my mid life crisis and I would be calling for the men in white coats to come and get me !!! Oh that is very true on the manners front but some people will never have them ever !!!

Smidge · 10-02-2014 02:06AM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Garth Brooks as my mid life crisis and I would be calling for the men in white coats to come and get me !!! Oh that is very true on the manners front but some people will never have them ever !!!

How they were raised I guess!
I still hope there can be something done and that the 2 extra dates will be cancelled, teach the money men a thing or two about people

smileyj1987 · 10-02-2014 02:22AM

Smidge wrote: »

How they were raised I guess!
I still hope there can be something done and that the 2 extra dates will be cancelled, teach the money men a thing or two about people

I reckon cancelling the 2 added dates is fair enough at this stage . It's a good compromise for all involved .

JJayoo · 10-02-2014 02:26AM

Way too much money involved and the residents know this. They will get a massive payoff and the concerts will go ahead.

Smidge · 10-02-2014 02:30AM

JJayoo wrote: »

Way too much money involved and the residents know this. They will get a massive payoff and the concerts will go ahead.

*sigh*

Again:rolleyes:

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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