Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

Gran Hermano · 08-02-2014 12:39AM

Anyone I know living in Galway will partake in the festivities around race week - the locals are part of the crowd and disruptions.
This is not the case with Garth. We've had no locals on here saying they love Mr Brooks and its great having the concert on their doorstep.
The people going to the concerts are not the same people being discommoded. I don't know anyone from Dublin going .

XxMCRxBabyxX · 08-02-2014 12:40AM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

Not really a big difference.

125000 per day in Galway. Where most of the activities were at the docks. And people living in apartments there, and not a word from them.

Croke Park, its 80000 people a day for 5 days. They spend 3-4 hours in Croke Park and then the rest of the time travelling to go home again on buses, trains or even staying the night in Dublin. Dublin, an entire city is also bigger than Galway. Dublin is well able for it.

But lets complain some more. Its not just 5 days. We cant forget One Direction. And this happens for sporting events too.

What do you want? Ban everything.

Exactly. The residents have to deal with 8 extra dates - concerts - that involve more noise, people, hassle and everything else. And that's not to mention the American football date as well as the usual GAA events.

The residents have a horrible summer ahead of them and I think that they have every right to complain considering that they weren't asked before anything went ahead. Considering how bad match days are, I can only imagine how much worse concert dates with later times and even more people would be. As far as they were concerned the licenses were only for three dates a summer, throwing an extra 5 on them is hardly fair.

It's also quite naive to think that fans will only be there for the concert time. They'll be there from early morning waiting to get in until the latest they can possibly leave.

Would you feel the same HLW if it wasn't your precious Garth Brooks playing?

whats_my_name · 08-02-2014 12:40AM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

Well then why didnt they play like Bruce Springsteen last year?

Why are you asking me?

I have no control over what the promotors do, where they decide to play, and for how many days.

If you had control, there wouldn't be any GAA played in Croker this year at all!! You haven't answered my question, can you not see where the residents are coming from??

Xavi6 · 08-02-2014 12:40AM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

And what's your point?

I got crap seats. Im a genuine fan and want to be up close.

I got my pitch standing tickets. Is that ok with you?

Maybe they can just cancel that night as a compromise with the residents :pac:

Gatling · 08-02-2014 12:41AM

anncoates wrote: »

It's creating - welcome - temporary work, not jobs. Just like any number of events in the city.

Any word on when Garth and the GAA will be eradicating world famine and war?

Not a fan of the GAA or Brooks ,

Temporary jobs yes possibly a few hundred at that ,

Think about it though for decades we had the point with its @6000 capacity if I remember correctly ,
So feck all people got to see there favourite bands/ artist who might stop for one night if we were actually lucky on a world tour ,

Take a 80,000 capacity venue and sell it out for 5 or 10 nights even and show Dublin is very able and willing to regularly host large events ,
Its good for everyone it shows whats possible here ,

A venue like croker only been available for 3 nights over a year or what ever the supposed actual deal is stupid IMO ,

Croker is definitely the better option compared to phoenix park it's too open and setting up large tiers of seats could be a nightmare ,we would have the same traffic / parking complaints ,

Slane Castle would be a great option along with croker but I'd personally prefer the large repeat events to stay in the capital

whats_my_name · 08-02-2014 12:43AM

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Anyone I know living in Galway will partake in the festivities around race week - the locals are part of the crowd and disruptions.
This is not the case with Garth. We've had no locals on here saying they love Mr Brooks and its great having the concert on their doorstep.
The people going to the concerts are not the same people being discommoded. I don't know anyone from Dublin going .

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think there was a thread last year in the Galway forum about the locals giving out about the amount of festivals there were over the course of the summer...

Mrs Garth Brooks · 08-02-2014 12:46AM

whats_my_name wrote: »

If you had control, there wouldn't be any GAA played in Croker this year at all!! You haven't answered my question, can you not see where the residents are coming from??

I do see where they are coming from.

But what do you want me to do about it?

I cant control how other people and their anti social behaviour.

08-02-2014 12:48AM

Smidge wrote: »

So the people attending the Garth Brooks concerts won't actually be around the area of Croke Park?
I mean, the event in Galway wasn't just confined to the dock. Have a wee google there and you'll see that many. many events were held away from that area.

So what we will be having is Garth Brooks fans, instead of being in the locality of Croke Park, wandering the city like a zombie hoard?

I don't need to google anything I'm from Galway and I attend the 7 days of the races every year and I attended multiple days of both ocean race stopovers and I can tell you for a fact the majority of people who attended the oven race were concentrated around the docks in the day and evening then all moved onto the very small streets like quay street and cross street until the early hours. During the races at night the entire crowd is packed into the same small streets.

From Quinn's to Croke park on clonliffee road alone is has more space for more people to move through than all of the area around quay street etc.

Smidge · 08-02-2014 12:49AM

end of the road wrote: »

if i lived near a large venue then theirs not a lot i could do about it apart from looking to put up protection infront of my door, or if i have a guarden plant some nettles by the wall, anti-social behaviour happens in these areas anyway, the guardai are there to deal with it, if their not, then launch a complaint

Well that about sums it up!
I had no front garden, hall door onto foot path. It would have been against the law for me to put up any form of "protection" as you say.

Launch a complaint?
To whom?
The Gardai?

Me : "Hello, yes..I'd like to make a complaint Guard"
Guard : "Ok what's your complaint?"
Me "I had someone who attended the concert in Croke Park last night open their bowels on my door step. This is not the first time this has happened and to be perfectly honest I'm fed up with cleaning up this repugnant mess time and again"
Guard : "Did you see who did this?"
Me : "No"

Click

Me : "Hello, hello, are you still there?"

Or to Aiken Promotions perhaps?
Will they send someone to clean it up upon my complaint?

Smidge · 08-02-2014 12:53AM

Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

I don't need to google anything I'm from Galway and I attend the 7 days of the races every year and I attended multiple days of both ocean race stopovers and I can tell you for a fact the majority of people who attended the oven race were concentrated around the docks in the day and evening then all moved onto the very small streets like quay street and cross street until the early hours. During the races at night the entire crowd is packed into the same small streets.

From Quinn's to Croke park on clonliffee road alone is has more space for more people to move through than all of the area around quay street etc.

But that's the problem.
They move through there but stay around the park.
This I know as I lived there.

RiverOfLove · 08-02-2014 12:53AM

Smidge wrote: »

Well that about sums it up!
I had no front garden, hall door onto foot path. It would have been against the law for me to put up any form of "protection" as you say.

Launch a complaint?
To whom?
The Gardai?

Me : "Hello, yes..I'd like to make a complaint Guard"
Guard : "Ok what's your complaint?"
Me "I had someone who attended the concert in Croke Park last night open their bowels on my door step. This is not the first time this has happened and to be perfectly honest I'm fed up with cleaning up this repugnant mess time and again"
Guard : "Did you see who did this?"
Me : "No"

Click

Me : "Hello, hello, are you still there?"

Or to Aiken Promotions perhaps?
Will they send someone to clean it up upon my complaint?

It's probably Bertie taking a sh1t on you. Stop blaming the concert goers.

Smidge · 08-02-2014 12:54AM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I do see where they are coming from.

But what do you want me to do about it?

I cant control how other people and their anti social behaviour.

You could show some empathy.

Smidge · 08-02-2014 12:55AM

RiverOfLove wrote: »

It's probably Bertie taking a sh1t on you. Stop blaming the concert goers.

That's the best response you have?
I seeeee.
Are there many members of Mensa who are fans of Garth Brooks?
I get the distinct feeling I'm wasting key strokes

stefan idiot jones · 08-02-2014 01:31AM

For all the people that are blaming promoters, organisers, Croker and the bloated Yank for putting on these dates.....

It's called supply and demand.

And the demand is from You, Your Family, Your Friends, Your Work Colleagues, Your Community, Your Countrymen/Women.

Smidge · 08-02-2014 01:34AM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

For all the people that are blaming promoters, organisers, Croker and the bloated Yank for putting on these dates.....

It's called supply and demand.

And the demand is from You, Your Family, Your Friends, Your Work Colleagues, Your Community, Your Countrymen/Women.

I'll have you know, none of these are my family and friends :eek:
For shame :P

miss no stars · 08-02-2014 11:35AM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I do see where they are coming from.

But what do you want me to do about it?

I cant control how other people and their anti social behaviour.

If the concert promoters and GAA wanted to, they could put enough effort into it and WOULD control the anti-social behaviour. They choose not to. The neighbours are annoyed as a result. Fairly flipping obvious..

Anyway, this thread is clearly divided between those with the capacity for empathy and those without. No point arguing with those who simply lack the ability to give a ****e about someone else.

smileyj1987 · 08-02-2014 07:46PM

Xavi6 wrote: »

Maybe they can just cancel that night as a compromise with the residents :pac:

A fair compromise would be cancel the 2 gigs added after the originals went on sale.

Duckworth_Luas · 08-02-2014 07:52PM

11th gig just announced

Gran Hermano · 08-02-2014 08:02PM

Simple solution: local elections coming up with all parties scrambling for votes. If locals don't want concerts it's the perfect time to lobby those running for election/re-election and oppose the number of dates.

Mrs Garth Brooks · 08-02-2014 08:02PM

Appartently Croke Park is debt free now. No joke.

These 5 gigs cost way too much money, not a hope they'll cancel them.

smileyj1987 · 08-02-2014 08:29PM

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Simple solution: local elections coming up with all parties scrambling for votes. If locals don't want concerts it's the perfect time to lobby those running for election/re-election and oppose the number of dates.

That is one way they could have the madness of 5 days stopped .

JRant · 08-02-2014 09:00PM

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

Appartently Croke Park is debt free now. No joke.

These 5 gigs cost way too much money, not a hope they'll cancel them.

They may have no say in the matter if a judge grants an injunction. The onous will surely rest on the GAA to prove they can be respectful to their neighbours. If enough objections are raised it may prove very difficult.

Then Aiken and Co are in a bit of a bind, big if mind you.

end of the road · 08-02-2014 09:56PM

or a judge might realize their a bunch of moaning whining ambulance chasers who want to cause the economy to lose out on millions because their not getting something for nothing

smileyj1987 · 08-02-2014 10:15PM

end of the road wrote: »

or a judge might realize their a bunch of moaning whining ambulance chasers who want to cause the economy to lose out on millions because their not getting something for nothing

They could also be sick of the gaa treating them like dirt on an annual basis .

asteroids over berlin · 08-02-2014 10:15PM

end of the road wrote: »

or a judge might realize their a bunch of moaning whining ambulance chasers who want to cause the economy to lose out on millions because their not getting something for nothing

clearly your going to one of the gigs and probably live nowhere near croke park, to be confined to your home (more or less for 5 nights) is not on, the garda prevent residents from driving to their homes, people are urinating everywhere, litter and then of course ungodly crap music that the rednecks of Ireland are big into. a gig is far worse than a gaa match, far far worse!! moaning my ass, they are well within their rights!

anncoates · 08-02-2014 10:20PM

Hopefully the thread will stay open for a long time.

It's like giving a nice thick rope to the Croker zealots to hang themselves seeing as the best argument they can come up with thus far is basically we can do it so we will do it and if you don't like it, move out.

Good work, chaps.

Duckworth_Luas · 08-02-2014 10:29PM

anncoates wrote: »

Hopefully the thread will stay open for a long time.

It's like giving a nice thick rope to the Croker zealots to hang themselves seeing as the best argument they can come up with thus far is basically we can do it so we will do it and if you don't like it, move out.

Good work, chaps.

Worst internet post ever! Seriously $hit post tbf! Does it make any sense to anyone else?

:(

Skylinehead · 08-02-2014 10:34PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Worst internet post ever! Seriously $hit post tbf! Does it make any sense to anyone else? :(

Seems perfectly fine to me.

Mrs Garth Brooks · 08-02-2014 10:36PM

The judge probably gets the same moaners every time.

Not a hope, they'll be cancelled.

It doesnt matter where the gigs are held, or who plays, there are always moaners. Any excuse will be used. Shure its probably the neighbours sh!tting in each others gardens. Its not the first time Bertie shat on people.

anncoates · 08-02-2014 10:39PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Worst internet post ever! Seriously $hit post tbf! Does it make any sense to anyone else? :(

QED.

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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