Galwegians drinking their own ****e again...

systemicrisk · 05-02-2014 03:15AM

MadsL wrote: »

In other words "believe what I say, but I have no evidence to back up my claim".

http://www.epa.ie/pubs/reports/water/ground/gwmpinfo/EPA_DWZOC_Glenamaddy%20-%20Bushtown%20Spring.pdf

Has no monitoring of groundwater quality in place, yet no-one appears concerned locally.

It is possible many didnt know. I probably would assume that it was been taken care of properly if I lived in the area unledd it was explicitly pointrd out to me to the contrary.

These people are paying enough in taxes at this stsge to expect a working service that is not causing health risks to the locality. They should start sending letters and email to local councillors to demsnd its fixed or they can find someone who will at the next election.

Stavros Murphy · 05-02-2014 08:35AM

I read this as "Glaswegians" and had expected a video of Rab C Nesbitt with an especially thick pint of Guinness in his hands.

MadsL · 05-02-2014 03:16PM

systemicrisk wrote: »

It is possible many didnt know. I probably would assume that it was been taken care of properly if I lived in the area unledd it was explicitly pointrd out to me to the contrary.

These people are paying enough in taxes at this stsge to expect a working service that is not causing health risks to the locality. They should start sending letters and email to local councillors to demsnd its fixed or they can find someone who will at the next election.

How ironic therefore is the fact that their local representative is in fact chair of the water monitoring committee. I guess he also had no idea. Or is it no clue? I forget.

MadsL · 06-02-2014 06:37PM

Response from the EPA is telling..also note An Taisce are threatening court action.

Galway County Council yesterday confirmed that it is very aware of the shortcomings of the sewage treatment plant in Glenamaddy and that it is working to ensure that the long overdue upgrade will take place. In a statement, director of services for water, environment, community, enterprise and economic development unit, Jim Cullen, said: “The council will continue to consult with all the necessary statutory regulatory bodies to develop plans for a much needed upgrade to address the sewage treatment needs of Glenamaddy and while these plans are being developed the council will continue to operate the plant as effectively as possible to minimise any effects on the environment. The council is looking forward to working with Irish Water to ensure the water and wastewater infrastructure in the county and nationally no longer suffers from underinvestment and so ensure plants like Glenamaddy are upgraded in a timely fashion. The public drinking water supply in Glenamaddy is monitored in accordance with the drinking water regulations and is in compliance with the regulations and safe. As An Taisce have informed Galway County Council of their intention to bring High Court proceedings in this matter it would be inappropriate to comment further on the matter at this time but efforts to compile an upgrade design will continue.”

http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/66851/immediate-action-needed-for-glenamaddy-sewage-hazard-says-an-taisce

An EPA spokesperson said there has been a delay in the licence application due to a request for further information which it says the Galway County Council has yet to provide. The spokesperson added the EPA has been working with the council to rectify the situation in the course of the application procedure.

So Galway CoCo pretty culpable then.

Euthro · 06-02-2014 07:24PM

Facilities apply for a licence each year to the EPA, this has nothing to do with funding from the DOE, who are responsible for capital costs, ie building upgrading a facility. lack of information could be as simple as poor paperwork/records of samples taken over the year or samples not being taken which is a bigger issue. Once again the council cn only operate the facility provided, the lack of funding from DOE is the issue.

MadsL · 06-02-2014 07:44PM

Euthro wrote: »

Facilities apply for a licence each year to the EPA, this has nothing to do with funding from the DOE, who are responsible for capital costs, ie building upgrading a facility. lack of information could be as simple as poor paperwork/records of samples taken over the year or samples not being taken which is a bigger issue. Once again the council cn only operate the facility provided, the lack of funding from DOE is the issue.

If the EPA reject the discharge application surely the CoCo are, errm, in the shit. Could this be the reason the CoCo are dragging their heels on this?

I'm off to search Glenamaddy on environ.ie

Euthro · 06-02-2014 07:55PM

I understood the application was delayed, either way the facility isnt sufficient to serve the cmmunity so it will exceed discharge limits and the council will be fined, running a facility without a licence will get you fined too so they're in "da ****" anyways.

Roger Hassenforder · 06-02-2014 08:57PM

Euthro wrote: »

I understood the application was delayed, either way the facility isnt sufficient to serve the cmmunity so it will exceed discharge limits and the council will be fined, running a facility without a licence will get you fined too so they're in "da ****" anyways.

Easy fix for this.
EAP issues the licence and condition that appropriate treatment has to be in place in 2 years. That forces IW, GCC and DOE to get the fingers out. They have done it in other licences. GCC cant be prosecuted for not having a licence, as they have applied, but it has not been issued.
It would have cost Galway CC €10,000 just to apply for that licence, surely that money would have been better put towards upgrading the treatment facilities.

MadsL · 28-02-2014 05:48PM

ScumLord wrote: »

You've just linked to two static sites that aren't updated all that often. It doesn't matter how many websites you link to try to prove the local people aren't discussing or acting on this issue, like I said, they don't put everything online around.

So An Taisce did a bit more digging through FOI and found that in fact a local resident did complian and Galway Co Co went out to have a look.

Internal documents obtained by An Taisce under access to information rules reveal that a member of the public complained to the EPA's Office of Environmental Enforcement about the sewage in 2012. Following this complaint, Galway County Council's Environment Section carried out a site visit to the turlough and reported back to the EPA that they could find no sign of the complained of discharge. Yet the primitive sewage unit was only a few metres from where the Council looked and carries prominent Galway County Council signage. Moreover it is the subject of regular maintenance work by the Council and had been the subject of a licence application by the Council to the EPA itself some three years earlier.

http://www.antaisce.ie/Portals/0/Newsletters/feb2014/feb2014.html#Article16

Nothing to see here, move along.

Oh dear.

Galwegians drinking their own ****e again...

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