Galwegians drinking their own ****e again...

MadsL

http://www.thejournal.ie/galway-sewage-1294394-Feb2014/

Past a joke at this stage, are Galway County Council competent or should a further investigation be held as to their fitness for office?

Gambas

There is nothing in that article that says there is an issue with the quality of drinking water in Glenamaddy? An since when are An Taisce qualified to determine if there is? It's a scare tactic to get the turlough protected. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself, but when it translates into 'Galwegians drinking their own sh!te' then a few people along the way have lost the plot.

Red Pepper

A turlough is a thinking man's flood.

MadsL

Gambas wrote: »

There is nothing in that article that says there is an issue with the quality of drinking water in Glenamaddy? An since when are An Taisce qualified to determine if there is? It's a scare tactic to get the turlough protected. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself, but when it translates into 'Galwegians drinking their own sh!te' then a few people along the way have lost the plot.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byc1SOzeg2lPRjQ1bEFtRFRmRzg/edit

August 1997: “sewage effluent [from Glenamaddy] directly enters a swallow hole draining the turlough and goes straight into the ground water. This is resulting in eutrophication of the turlough, not to mention a totally unacceptable health hazard” (Dúchas, now NPWS)

June 2009: “the existing wastewater treatment plant would not be considered to be effective at treating the sewage generated within [Glenamaddy]...[It] is grossly undersized and may currently be significantly impacting on the [Glenamaddy] Turlough and the ground water in the region” (Galway County Council)

Read the report... An Taisce are highlighting Galway Co Co's own application to the EPA.

Galwayguy35

Real classy thread title.

MadsL

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Real classy thread title.

Real classy town of 700 dumping their shite in a Special Area of Conservation.

Stay classy Galway.

Sir Arthur Daley

There would be less waste water if the people didn't wash their hands after using the toilet, would vastly improve the problem.

Galwayguy35

MadsL wrote: »

Real classy town of 700 dumping their shite in a Special Area of Conservation.

Stay classy Galway.

It's a subject that should be discussed, but it's just not possible with you because you're always trying to get a dig in somewhere along the way.

shedweller

The water tax will fix this no problem!

MadsL

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

It's a subject that should be discussed, but it's just not possible with you because you're always trying to get a dig in somewhere along the way.

I see. You weigh in with a dig, and get told a hard truth in return, and it is my fault.

Perhaps Galway County Council's incompetence and corruption is a sore subject for you.

Galwayguy35

MadsL wrote: »

I see. You weigh in with a dig, and get told a hard truth in return, and it is my fault.

Perhaps Galway County Council's incompetence and corruption is a sore subject for you.

I have nothing to do with Galway CC so there's no "sore subject".

Sky King

Real classy thread title.

I thought of necknomination when I saw the thread title, I have to admit.

MadsL

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I have nothing to do with Galway CC so there's no "sore subject".

County pride perhaps?...anyway, will we discuss the topic? Anything to add?

ScumLord

MadsL wrote: »

Real classy town of 700 dumping their shite in a Special Area of Conservation.

Stay classy Galway.

Yes, all the people of the town went up with buckets and dumped their **** into the hole. :rolleyes:

We have little to no respect for the land in this country, most people only see it as something to be exploited for short term profit or at worst held onto so someone else can't profit in their stead.

We're quickly turning this island into a barren pile of muck.

anncoates

So that's how Galway Bay Brewery get that distinctive taste for Buried At Sea stout.

MadsL

ScumLord wrote: »

Yes, all the people of the town went up with buckets and dumped their **** into the hole. :rolleyes:

I assume anyone with half a brain in that town knows where their shit ends up. The question is do they care?

We have little to no respect for the land in this country, most people only see it as something to be exploited for short term profit or at worst held onto so someone else can't profit in their stead.

We're quickly turning this island into a barren pile of muck.

Well said. The people who are supposed to protect it for the nation are the ones most culpable. City & County Councils need radical reform and supervision.

Diabhal Beag

Time for the Britta filter again scan.

My name is URL

Gambas wrote: »

There is nothing in that article that says there is an issue with the quality of drinking water in Glenamaddy? An since when are An Taisce qualified to determine if there is? It's a scare tactic to get the turlough protected. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself, but when it translates into 'Galwegians drinking their own sh!te' then a few people along the way have lost the plot.

It's a silly and inflammatory thread title, but why wouldn't An Taisce be qualified to determine that waste water is being pumped into the turlough? They operate on behalf of the Dept. of the Environment amongst others, so they have ample expertise in the area.

It should be properly protected in any case. There's not much else in the way of areas of such scientific importance which are unique to Ireland.

ScumLord

MadsL wrote: »

I assume anyone with half a brain in that town knows where their shit ends up. The question is do they care?

But what can they do about it? It sounds like they've been on about the problems with their sewage for the past 20 years. The only way they will ever get it fixed is to elect a local independant who makes it their one mission in office to fix that one particular problem.

MadsL

ScumLord wrote: »

But what can they do about it? It sounds like they've been on about the problems with their sewage for the past 20 years. The only way they will ever get it fixed is to elect a local independant who makes it their one mission in office to fix that one particular problem.

700 people giving out shite (heh, see what I did there) to the Council rather than shrugging would be a start.

At least AT highlighting this is a start.

MadsL

My name is URL wrote: »

They operate on behalf of the Dept. of the Environment amongst others,

Eh? They are a charity.

so they have ample expertise in the area.

They are the oldest environmental charity, so yes there is plenty of experience with such matters.[/QUOTE]

ScumLord

MadsL wrote: »

700 people giving out shite (heh, see what I did there) to the Council rather than shrugging would be a start.

What makes you think they haven't been kicking up stink about this for the past 20 years? It's not the first time I've heard about this problem.

MadsL

Gambas wrote: »

There is nothing in that article that says there is an issue with the quality of drinking water in Glenamaddy? An since when are An Taisce qualified to determine if there is?

Probably more qualified than this FF sheep farmer.

http://www.cllrmichaelconnolly.com/polhistory.html

Chairman of Water Monitoring Committee, Galway County

Also supports turf-cutting and fixshed the roads.

MadsL

ScumLord wrote: »

What makes you think they haven't been kicking up stink about this for the past 20 years? It's not the first time I've heard about this problem.

Linky?

My name is URL

MadsL wrote: »

Eh? They are a charity.

And?

The organisation is split into three operational divisions:

• Environmental Education Unit operates nationwide programmes on behalf of the Irish government's Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government, the Dublin Transportation Office and the European Union

foggy_lad

I read the title as Glaswegians drinking their own urine again and immediately thought if they can drink that iron-bru they'd drink anything.

Then I started wondering if that is Big Tom's Glenamaddy?

MadsL

My name is URL wrote: »

And?

That's the Green Schools/Green Flag programme. The Educational unit is the only portion of AT that runs anything for the DoE.

Pretty much everything else is charity run.

My name is URL

I don't think I suggested that it wasn't charity run. All I said is that they operate to some degree on behalf of the DoE amongst others, which they do. And it was in response to someone asking why An Taisce would feel like they are qualified to make such claims.

ScumLord

MadsL wrote: »

Linky?

Not everything in the Irish countryside works on links, you'll have to go into Harte's and order yourself a pint.

SpaceTime

Maybe they thought disappearing lakes were a bit like wormholes and that the sewage was in fact coming out in a different dimension?

MadsL

ScumLord wrote: »

Not everything in the Irish countryside works on links, you'll have to go into Harte's and order yourself a pint.

In other words "believe what I say, but I have no evidence to back up my claim".

http://www.epa.ie/pubs/reports/water/ground/gwmpinfo/EPA_DWZOC_Glenamaddy%20-%20Bushtown%20Spring.pdf

Has no monitoring of groundwater quality in place, yet no-one appears concerned locally.

Robbo

SpaceTime wrote: »

Maybe they thought disappearing lakes were a bit like wormholes and that the sewage was in fact coming out in a different dimension?

Now you're thinking with portals.

Red Pepper

There are useless local authorities and then there is Galway County Council. Galway City Council not far behind though!

Hootanany

Follow the Money?

ScumLord

MadsL wrote: »

Has no monitoring of groundwater quality in place, yet no-one appears concerned locally.

How do you know no ones concerned locally? You seem to think if something doesn't have a facebook campaign it doesn't exist.

Roger Hassenforder

its an absolute disgrace what Irish Water is doing to the country...

MadsL

ScumLord wrote: »

How do you know no ones concerned locally? You seem to think if something doesn't have a facebook campaign it doesn't exist.

Could you point to local resident concerns in say, the minutes of Galway County Council, I had a look and could find no references to local concern.

Can you find any? Or references in the local Councillor's website - who is chair of the water monitoring committee....

http://www.cllrmichaelconnolly.com/index.html

I continue to oppose the interpretation of SAC's and other designations because of their effects on turf cutting, planning and future road building.

Oh look - he opposes SACs :rolleyes:


http://www.fiannafail.ie/people/michael-connolly/

Look no local news...:D


So no real evidence of local concern is there?

Rasheed

Maybe that's why I'm never met a sober person from that village

whupdedo

I actually read this as glaswegians,which concerned me, but seeing as it's only Galway people I'm not too bothered seeing as their always talking ****e, they might as well drink it too

OpenYourEyes

Gambas wrote: »

It's a scare tactic to get the turlough protected.

The turlough is already protected as an SAC, pNHA and is mostly owned by the state - so the turlough is already significantly protected. But don't let that get in the way of your determined, uninformed cynicism or automatic reflex to give out about An Taisce before reading what they have to say :rolleyes:

joela

MadsL wrote: »

Could you point to local resident concerns in say, the minutes of Galway County Council, I had a look and could find no references to local concern.

Can you find any? Or references in the local Councillor's website - who is chair of the water monitoring committee....

http://www.cllrmichaelconnolly.com/index.html



Oh look - he opposes SACs :rolleyes:


http://www.fiannafail.ie/people/michael-connolly/

Look no local news...:D


So no real evidence of local concern is there?

Good call MadsL, what exactly did everyone who knew about this actually do other mumble, groan & shrug their shoulders?

ScumLord

MadsL wrote: »

Could you point to local resident concerns in say, the minutes of Galway County Council, I had a look and could find no references to local concern.

Can you find any? Or references in the local Councillor's website - who is chair of the water monitoring committee....

http://www.cllrmichaelconnolly.com/index.html



Oh look - he opposes SACs :rolleyes:


http://www.fiannafail.ie/people/michael-connolly/

Look no local news...:D


So no real evidence of local concern is there?

joela wrote: »

Good call MadsL, what exactly did everyone who knew about this actually do other mumble, groan & shrug their shoulders?

You've just linked to two static sites that aren't updated all that often. It doesn't matter how many websites you link to try to prove the local people aren't discussing or acting on this issue, like I said, they don't put everything online around.

NTMK

MadsL wrote: »

I see. You weigh in with a dig, and get told a hard truth in return, and it is my fault.

Perhaps Galway County Council's incompetence and corruption is a sore subject for you.

If you honestly think its only Galway coco that are at this is you have no idea. Every single Council pulls this crap you just have to look at the state of city drinking water to see that. The only reason (and a perfectly valid one too) this is being highlight is because of the SAC. The entirety of ireland water and waste system is archaic and has resulted in Enviromental hazzards like this and the heavy use of Chemicals to attempt to hide the taste of ****e of city water

EyeSight

Red Pepper wrote: »

There are useless local authorities and then there is Galway County Council. Galway City Council not far behind though!

I have to agree. I lived there briefly a few years back and found them shocking! e.g. Having multiple major roadworks go on very near to each other at the same time on main roads, some without notice or backup measures. My commute to and from work went from 10 minutes to 60
At the time, fellow co-workers were telling me about past stories, e.g. the water treatment etc. I couldn't believe they put up with it

Lapin

Everyone agrees that Galway is universally accepted as being by far the most beautiful place on the planet, and the most culturally diverse and cosmopolitan county in Ireland, populated by intellectually superior and enlightened people whose talents and technologically advanced ideas and artistic endeavours have all contributed to making the world a better place.

And while Galway remains as the envy of the world, there is no denying that (as in any society) there will always be a small minority who deviate from social norms.

In Galway's case, that minority is very small indeed. Red Pepper has already mentioned them here.

Red Pepper wrote: »

There are useless local authorities and then there is Galway County Council. Galway City Council not far behind though!

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MadsL wrote: »

Probably more qualified than this FF sheep farmer.

http://www.cllrmichaelconnolly.com/polhistory.html

Chairman of Water Monitoring Committee, Galway County

Also supports turf-cutting and fixshed the roads.

How dare that local councillor try to deal with issues that effect people in rural areas such as turf cutting and poor quality roads!

Lapin wrote: »

Everyone agrees that Galway is universally accepted as being by far the most beautiful place on the planet

in don't agree

MadsL

Mary Narrow Slyness wrote: »

How dare that local councillor try to deal with issues that effect people in rural areas such as turf cutting and poor quality roads!

He said he opposes SACs because they interfere with turfcutting and roadbuilding.

How dare the natural environment get in the way of cutting it up and burning it and paving over it.

Red Pepper

Lapin wrote: »

Everyone agrees that Galway is universally accepted as being by far the most beautiful place on the planet, and the most culturally diverse and cosmopolitan county in Ireland, populated by intellectually superior and enlightened people whose talents and technologically advanced ideas and artistic endeavours have all contributed to making the world a better place.

And while Galway remains as the envy of the world, there is no denying that (as in any society) there will always be a small minority who deviate from social norms.

In Galway's case, that minority is very small indeed. Red Pepper has already mentioned them here.

So true Lapin. And besides, Glenamaddy isn't really 'Galway', shure you are your own uncle up there.

Lapin

Red Pepper wrote: »

So true Lapin. And besides, Glenamaddy isn't really 'Galway', shure you are your own uncle up there.

Glenamaddy is the place Galway decided to preserve in its ancient form.

Bit like Newgrange in Meath, or The Ciede Fields in Mayo. A remnant of the distant past.

Only tourists go there.

I've been all over the world, but never been to Glenamaddy.

ScumLord

Lapin wrote: »

I've been all over the world, but never been to Glenamaddy.

Let me take you there through the power of song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLxxKBf-7cQ

Red Pepper

Lapin wrote: »

Glenamaddy...Only tourists go there.

I doubt that.