Do you think the Iona Institute are homophobic?

efb · 04-02-2014 07:43PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I have neither.

I have gay friends and some of my other friends have gay kids.

They're sick of the hysterical reaction too.

Conservatives gay friends so self hating- Quelle surprize...

Muise... · 04-02-2014 07:44PM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Who are the ones shouting loudest?

Look at the poll.......

Since when is voting "shouting"?

You'd better block your ears from democracy, Padre. Oh yeah, you already have, since you think liberals are turning the place into N Korea, a position too contorted for even a double-jointed snake.

Kiwi in IE · 04-02-2014 07:45PM

No

Because a certain percentage of the population are homophobic is not a reason to deny another percentage of the population equal human rights.

Fr. Ned · 04-02-2014 07:45PM

efb wrote: »

Conservatives gay friends so self hating- Quelle surprize...

Pathetic.

Coeurdepirate · 04-02-2014 07:46PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I have neither.

I have gay friends and some of my other friends have gay kids.

They're sick of the hysterical reaction too.

Why do you keep using the word 'hysterical'? I understand it's an emotionally-charged word and you're hoping that it'll shut us up, but everyone here has responded calmly, I have seen no hysteria.

Fr. Ned · 04-02-2014 07:46PM

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Because a certain percentage of the population are homophobic is not a reason to deny another percentage of the population equal human rights.

I've already stated that if gay people want to get married the they should be allowed to.

What do you want?

Coeurdepirate · 04-02-2014 07:47PM

No

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Because a certain percentage of the population are homophobic is not a reason to deny another percentage of the population equal human rights.

+1

This is the main problem I have with the upcoming referendum, the rights of a vulnerable minority should not be subject to mob opinion.

EuskalHerria · 04-02-2014 07:47PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Pathetic.

You have to understand that when posting anonymously on the internet, stories which just happen to back up your point but are almost impossible to prove are null and void in a discussion.

Those people you speak about, they will have their opportunity to voice their opinion. The point of all this is not to force all gay people to get married and adopt children. It is to allow the choice, a choice currently not afforded to them.

efb · 04-02-2014 07:48PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Pathetic.

They really are

Kiwi in IE · 04-02-2014 07:48PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I have neither.

I have gay friends and some of my other friends have gay kids.

They're sick of the hysterical reaction too.

I have a gay friend but..................

I'm not racist but..........................

Fr. Ned · 04-02-2014 07:48PM

Coeurdepirate wrote: »

+1

This is the main problem I have with the upcoming referendum, the rights of a vulnerable minority should not be subject to mob opinion.

Vulnerable?

Give me a break, will ya.

Muise... · 04-02-2014 07:49PM

Fr. Ned wrote: »

I've already stated that if gay people want to get married the they should be allowed to.

What do you want?

I want you to stop trolling. Shouldn't be a problem , with your love of reasoned debate and all.

Fr. Ned · 04-02-2014 07:49PM

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I have a gay friend but..................

I'm not racist but..........................

I'm racist now as well, am I?

This gets better...

Dfmnoc · 04-02-2014 07:49PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Ok then, If we must....

Can a homosexual couple procreate?

Not far off it http://www.sciencechannel.com/tv-shows/through-the-wormhole/videos/will-sex-become-extinct.htm

El Guapo! · 04-02-2014 07:50PM

Fr.Ned, don't post in this thread again please.

Fr. Ned · 04-02-2014 07:52PM

El Guapo! wrote: »

Fr.Ned, don't post in this thread again please.

My point well and truly proven.

Thanks and goodbye.

Nodin · 04-02-2014 07:52PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

So, campaigning for something is ok but campaigning against it isn't?

I see.....

Correct. Freedom of choice etc.

Kiwi in IE · 04-02-2014 07:54PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Personally I don't really care what homosexual couples do.

If they want to get married, then go ahead.

One thing they can't do though is procreate, only hetrosexual couples can do that, and that's what keeps the human race alive.

There is no 'if'. A large number of LBGT couples do want to get married. So why should anyone be trying to prevent that? Why do Iona and friends even need an opinion? What is it to do with them?

Sarky · 04-02-2014 07:56PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

My point well and truly proven.

Thanks and goodbye.

You forgot to liken Boards to a liberal fascist Stormfront. I'm insulted.

Annasopra · 04-02-2014 07:58PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

Were you there when they got legal advice?

Usually if in the wrong, there is an edit.

We see mods do it all the time on boards, should mods not edit posts that could or are causing trouble, because it could be viewed as censorship, or are they just being sensible?

So that is Yes to my question

Annasopra · 04-02-2014 07:59PM

No

Sarky wrote: »

It gets better. Also on the panel is Kevin Brophy. Of Brophy Solicitors. Guess which anti-gay lobby group calling themselves an institute is represented by Brophy Solicitors?

In fairness I understand Brophy is also Solicitor to Gilligan and Zappone

Kiwi in IE · 04-02-2014 08:01PM

No

There is only one reason why people oppose LGBT marriage and it is homophobia!

Bannasidhe · 04-02-2014 08:03PM

No

Any one else notice there seems to be notable increase in anti-SSM posters committing 'suicide by Mod'?

Their M.O. is always the same - indulge in some flaming type remarks about 'Liberals' and 'censorship', ignore any reasoned responses, engage in low level name-calling and post a few obnoxious sound bites until a Mod responds and (the hope) bans them so they can scream they are being silenced or if the Mod issues a warning continue by disputing that warning in-thread so they do get banned and can scream about being silenced.

What an odd thing to do in a discussion forum...

Links234 · 04-02-2014 08:03PM

No

When will some people grasp that 'Freedom of speech' is not freedom from criticism?

Clandestine · 04-02-2014 08:10PM

Coeurdepirate wrote: »

+1

This is the main problem I have with the upcoming referendum, the rights of a vulnerable minority should not be subject to mob opinion.

That is democracy in a nutshell... giving 51% the ability to take away the rights of the other 49%

Piliger · 04-02-2014 08:14PM

No

Coeurdepirate wrote: »

+1

This is the main problem I have with the upcoming referendum, the rights of a vulnerable minority should not be subject to mob opinion.

Well ... that's a little silly really. I am totally and 100% in favour of total equal rights and oppose Iona 1000%.

But we do live in a democracy and the voting people make the rules. We have to live with that. of course I would prefer if we enshrine these rights into the big "C", but that's not possible as yet it seems.

What we need to do is shine the light on organisations like Iona and on their benefactors and financiers, including shady catholic church and American connections. We need to call them out, and take them on in the media. We also need to get people to VOTE !! and not take things for granted.

They will spend huge money on advertising, on billboards and posters. They will do what these organisations did in previous referenda - try to share the bejeezuz out of the dimmer in our population. We will hear every old bigoted cliche we could ever dream up. And we have to make sure that we WIN.

Piliger · 04-02-2014 08:14PM

No

Clandestine wrote: »

That is democracy in a nutshell... giving 51% the ability to take away the rights of the other 49%

Errr... no it isn't. :rolleyes:

returnNull · 04-02-2014 08:25PM

No

RobertKK wrote: »

Who here hates gays?

the homophobes.

Coeurdepirate · 04-02-2014 08:32PM

No

Fr. Ned wrote: »

Vulnerable?

Give me a break, will ya.

How aren't they vulnerable? Homosexuals suffer from both institutional discrimination as well as widespread intolerance and prejudice. 9 out of 10 young gay people are bullied in schools because of their sexuality, which explains the fact that gay people are 3 times more likely to commit suicide and up to 9 times more likely to abuse substances. This, I can back up with studies unlike the hypothetical 'evidence' you have been providing.

EuskalHerria · 04-02-2014 08:36PM

No

So the two posters most adamant to defend Iona and their point of view have been a priest (Fr. Ned) and a person with an extra K missing from his user-name (RobertKK).

At least they have come forward and tried, admittedly badly, to instigate debate. Nonetheless there will be some who see posters being asked to stop posting in this thread is indicative of the inability to "debate" this issue. Not true. Try and establish your point of view with facts and not try and be subtle about what you believe. If you fly under the flag of discrimination then do not be surprised when people call you out on it and make it appear ludicrous. Also please stop trying to usurp the word "traditional", it has never been a euphemism for discrimination.

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