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Greengrass1 · 02-02-2014 09:45PM

Base price wrote: »

Best of luck with her.
Years ago had a CHx heifer that went down due to a difficult calving. She went down in the crush while the vet sectioned the calf. The vet advised us to drag her out of the crush with the tractor (loop around her forelegs) and bring her to the field. Her back legs were paralysed and she could not stand. We put her in a rope sling hoisted from the front loader for a few hours every day and moved her to a new spot each day. Propped her up with bales, fed her meal sprinkled with glucose, hay and electrolytes and covered her with old horse rugs and a old carpet at night. She was down for 17 days but eventually made it through.
If you have the time and are willing to stick with them then they will normally pull through, but it does take time, commitment and lots of patience.
IMO it is better time spent than phoning for the dead lorry to come and paying them to take them away.

Thanks. I'd say she used up all her energy yesterday standing up for the whole day. Dont want to see a loorry here again. Knackery used to be here more than the milk lorry at one time

adne · 02-02-2014 09:55PM

Base price wrote: »

Best of luck with her.
Years ago had a CHx heifer that went down due to a difficult calving. She went down in the crush while the vet sectioned the calf. The vet advised us to drag her out of the crush with the tractor (loop around her forelegs) and bring her to the field. Her back legs were paralysed and she could not stand. We put her in a rope sling hoisted from the front loader for a few hours every day and moved her to a new spot each day. Propped her up with bales, fed her meal sprinkled with glucose, hay and electrolytes and covered her with old horse rugs and a old carpet at night. She was down for 17 days but eventually made it through.
If you have the time and are willing to stick with them then they will normally pull through, but it does take time, commitment and lots of patience.
IMO it is better time spent than phoning for the dead lorry to come and paying them to take them away.

Had one down for 5 weeks last year, stick with her, maize in the feed is a great source of energy

Base price · 02-02-2014 09:56PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Thanks. I'd say she used up all her energy yesterday standing up for the whole day. Dont want to see a loorry here again. Knackery used to be here more than the milk lorry at one time

I completely understand that it is difficult to farm when your parents or in-laws interfere (been there, have the scars and all) but in my opinion you have the give the animal the best chance as your gut instinct feels.
It is not easy to go against advise from older people, sometimes it is right, sometimes it is wrong, but at the end of the day you have to row your own boat.

bob charles · 02-02-2014 10:05PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Wouldn't stand today. And she was getting on very week yesterday. Wanted to do that but father wouldn't aggre. She is attempting to get up but hasn't got the strength to. She us on s deep bed of straw too.
Gave here warm water and glucose today

Fluxnin, hydrate, and some rest and recovery. She probably needs time to heal. I found a nice ch heifer stuck in a feed barrier yesterday morning, she should be okay but Im not trying to get her standing yet.

Greengrass1 · 02-02-2014 10:09PM

Base price wrote: »

I completely understand that it is difficult to farm when your parents or in-laws interfere (been there, have the scars and all) but in my opinion you have the give the animal the best chance as your gut instinct feels.
It is not easy to go against advise from older people, sometimes it is right, sometimes it is wrong, but at the end of the day you have to row your own boat.

Ah my father is well used to lifting cows. Has had lots of them over the years but the weather is a bit rough at the moment to out her out in the field. She will be using her energy to keep warm instead of healing

Greengrass1 · 02-02-2014 10:09PM

bob charles wrote: »

Fluxnin, hydrate, and some rest and recovery. She probably needs time to heal. I found a nice ch heifer stuck in a feed barrier yesterday morning, she should be okay but Im not trying to get her standing yet.

What's fluxin bob?

moy83 · 02-02-2014 10:13PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ah my father is well used to lifting cows. Has had lots of them over the years but the weather is a bit rough at the moment to out her out in the field. She will be using her energy to keep warm instead of healing

Have you a horse rug to throw over her , it would be a good help to keep her warm

Greengrass1 · 02-02-2014 10:16PM

moy83 wrote: »

Have you a horse rug to throw over her , it would be a good help to keep her warm

We left the lifter in her. Keeps her fairly warm. No horse rug unfortunately

maxxuumman · 02-02-2014 10:17PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

What's fluxin bob?

Brilliant stuff
Non steroidal anti inflammatory ( I think)

If you ever have ecoli mastitis that + marbycil is excellent

delaval · 02-02-2014 11:02PM

maxxuumman wrote: »

Brilliant stuff
Non steroidal anti inflammatory ( I think)

If you ever have ecoli mastitis that + marbycil is excellent

Do hos get ecoli? I'd say with the fancy gadgets ye have sure ye'd know she was getting it the week before!!!

stanflt · 02-02-2014 11:08PM

maxxuumman wrote: »

Brilliant stuff
Non steroidal anti inflammatory ( I think)

If you ever have ecoli mastitis that + marbycil is excellent

i find reomacam with cobacton and a drench of chanadol the trick for ecoli or a downer cow

farmersfriend · 02-02-2014 11:38PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

We left the lifter in her. Keeps her fairly warm. No horse rug unfortunately

We use old blanket the it on front and back. Keeps heat in.

jd06 · 02-02-2014 11:46PM

tanko wrote: »

Don't suppose you have a pic of your CH bull. As you use euro gene bulls, do you know anything about TUT?

I use eurogene, and have one TUT calf. nice calf, cow calved herself too. TUT is supposed to have all the stars and good realibility. anyone else any experience of him??

bob charles · 03-02-2014 12:10AM

stanflt wrote: »

i find reomacam with cobacton and a drench of chanadol the trick for ecoli or a downer cow

presume reomacam some form of metacam? Cobactan is a super product, I find you get a serious quick reaction but short lived, I use a good bit of Ceftiofur, as cobactan is too dear for beef animals

biddy2013 · 03-02-2014 06:10AM

adne wrote: »

Had one down for 5 weeks last year, stick with her, maize in the feed is a great source of energy

once theres no broken bones we give them a week, its also important not to hurt yourself . Fairplay for doing 5 weeks. Do you ever notice a downer cow eats and drinks alot when you have to carry it all to them

biddy2013 · 03-02-2014 08:03PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

We left the lifter in her. Keeps her fairly warm. No horse rug unfortunately

how is she today, would she need some more calcium?

Greengrass1 · 03-02-2014 08:07PM

biddy2013 wrote: »

how is she today, would she need some more calcium?

Didn't really stand today her front legs haven't got the power. Back ones working fine. Still plenty of fight in her though. She didn't want to sit down today but was still using harness to hold herself up

bogman_bass · 03-02-2014 08:10PM

Twin IRX bull calves.

bob charles · 03-02-2014 08:11PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Didn't really stand today her front legs haven't got the power. Back ones working fine. Still plenty of fight in her though. She didn't want to sit down today but was still using harness to hold herself up

disregard my advice:D:D, my lovely young heifer was as dead as a dodo this morning. She must have hemorrhaged while stuck in the barrier. Its funny as we were going replacing those barriers in rented shed on Saturday but didnt because of the weather. found animal trapped later in the day. You need luck some days :rolleyes:

Greengrass1 · 03-02-2014 08:15PM

bob charles wrote: »

disregard my advice:D:D, my lovely young heifer was as dead as a dodo this morning. She must have hemorrhaged while stuck in the barrier. Its funny as we were going replacing those barriers in rented shed on Saturday but didnt because of the weather. found animal trapped later in the day. You need luck some days :rolleyes:

What sort of barriers are they? Diagonal? Heifers here always getting caught or out through them

Genghis Cant · 03-02-2014 09:00PM

bogman_bass wrote: »

Twin IRX bull calves.

A fine pair they are! Pedigree Calves?
Will mammy have a fair stab at rearing them?

bogman_bass · 03-02-2014 10:05PM

Genghis Cant wrote: »

A fine pair they are! Pedigree Calves?
Will mammy have a fair stab at rearing them?

No they out of a bbx. No bother feeding them, you could put her through the parlour. My best cow by a mile she has it every way

Genghis Cant · 03-02-2014 10:30PM

bogman_bass wrote: »

No they out of a bbx. No bother feeding them, you could put her through the parlour. My best cow by a mile she has it every way

That's what ya want. It's great to get twins from a good cow that's able to rear them!

Timmaay · 03-02-2014 10:51PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Didn't really stand today her front legs haven't got the power. Back ones working fine. Still plenty of fight in her though. She didn't want to sit down today but was still using harness to hold herself up

Have a lady here in not much better shape 2bh. She calved last week, we got a fr heifer out of her at least, but she has been very lame the last month or so, both the vet and the hoof pairer said they can do nothing for her. I'm leaving her in a shed on herown, but another cow pucked her to the ground this evening, she spend 3hrs sitting there and eventually got up, I was fairly sure I'd be calling the knackery for her.

My dad spent wayyy too much money on a harness here last year, 2bh I think they are a waste, when the cow is gone that far, I'd rather call the knackery and be done with it, the odds of a recovery are low enough, and it almost always happens at a bad time, ie right now in the middle of calving, last thing I'd want to be doing is wasting afew hrs on a cow as such, probably at the expense of attention to other animals.

Gillespy · 04-02-2014 01:18AM

I like that harness. It has the cow in mind. We have the hip clamp thing, bit barbaric but it works. Rolling her into the bucket and out into a field is the best but too wet at the moment.

Greengrass1 · 04-02-2014 07:57AM

Gillespy wrote: »

I like that harness. It has the cow in mind. We have the hip clamp thing, bit barbaric but it works. Rolling her into the bucket and out into a field is the best but too wet at the moment.

For 400e it would want to have the cow in mind ha

just do it · 04-02-2014 08:21AM

onyerbikepat · 04-02-2014 08:34AM

I notice the For Sale sign.

darragh_haven · 04-02-2014 08:34AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

For 400e it would want to have the cow in mind ha

Thats fairly pricey alright. But hopefully it'd last at least 10 years

biddy2013 · 04-02-2014 08:44AM

darragh_haven wrote: »

Thats fairly pricey alright. But hopefully it'd last at least 10 years

until the neighbours get a lend and ya never see it again

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