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eireannBEAR · 02-02-2014 10:43AM

Al Capwned wrote: »

tbf mate, I dont think anyone is calling for suspensions....

And I'm not at all bitter or jealous about xGW transfers - I just don't agree with them.

Why would you be bitter your barcelona the ****!!

That post was a joke man,we didnt have ''actual'' show trials either... :pac:

GT_TDI_150 · 02-02-2014 10:44AM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I didn't consider it "cheating". As I said, it was just another negotiation tool. But yeah, it's specifically called out in the rules as being something that could see accounts suspended if caught.

http://www.soccermanager.com/code-of-conduct.php

Point 3b.

So I'll throw my hands up there. It is against the rules, it is defined as cheating .

Hands up here too.

I had a deal agreed and then added a second player to a transfer in another world(instead of the cash origionally agreed) (I wasnt aware it was in the CoC) but I did conduct a transfer against the rules.

I will not entertain / seek any further deals in this fashion.

However, if someone here feels strongly enough about that transfer...

Feel free to report to SM. I'll face the concequences.

If I loose my account / teams then so be it.

Maldjd23 · 02-02-2014 10:46AM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I didn't consider it "cheating". As I said, it was just another negotiation tool. But yeah, it's specifically called out in the rules as being something that could see accounts suspended if caught.

http://www.soccermanager.com/code-of-conduct.php

Point 3b.

So I'll throw my hands up there. It is against the rules, it is defined as cheating .

In a way i admire the creativity of the lads who used it.

That said it gives a massive advantage to those who avail of it. Say we know each other outside of the game and i offer you a few pints in exchange for Isco/Bale or whoever is that just another negotiating tool?

I joined this league knowing full well i can't compete financially with the bigger clubs but say i save up my pennies to bid for a player and my bid is rejected for a rivals because the selling manager is getting a star player in another league.

Even if it wasn't against the code of conduct it is certainly unfair. I can understand lads arguing they found a loop hole and weren't breaking any rules but to say it isn't cheating? Honestly can't understand that attitude.

Now, i have no intention of refusing to do deals with managers and falling out with people over this. It is after all only a game but antics like this will kill the league.

eireannBEAR · 02-02-2014 10:49AM

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Hands up here too.

I had a deal agreed and then added a second player to a transfer in another world(instead of the cash origionally agreed) (I wasnt aware it was in the CoC) but I did conduct a transfer against the rules.

I will not entertain / seek any further deals in this fashion.

However, if someone here feels strongly enough about that transfer...

Feel free to report to SM. I'll face the concequences.

If I loose my account / teams then so be it.

This is why belgium fought so hard in ww1 and ww2......... :P

I know your genuine GT i hope you dont get reported.

GT_TDI_150 · 02-02-2014 10:51AM

ah here, what we did during WW1 and WW2 was just to piss off the gerries! :cool:

GT_TDI_150 · 02-02-2014 10:53AM

eireannBEAR wrote: »

This is why belgium fought so hard in ww1 and ww2......... :P

I know your genuine GT i hope you dont get reported.

Thanks mate.

I hope the undertaking not to do a transfer in this vein helps but ya never know, there are 70odd active managers in our league...

Al Capwned · 02-02-2014 10:54AM

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Why would you be bitter your barcelona the ****!!

That post was a joke man,we didnt have ''actual'' show trials either... :pac:

Grumpy and sick man, apologies....

__

Also I hope no one gets reported for xGW's.

eireannBEAR · 02-02-2014 10:57AM

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

ah here, what we did during WW1 and WW2 was just to piss off the gerries! :cool:

Thanks for the chips....just leave africa alone..

GT_TDI_150 · 02-02-2014 11:10AM

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Thanks for the chips....just leave africa alone..

Dont tell me that was against the rules too

tupac_healy · 02-02-2014 11:43AM

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Hands up here too.

I had a deal agreed and then added a second player to a transfer in another world(instead of the cash origionally agreed) (I wasnt aware it was in the CoC) but I did conduct a transfer against the rules.

I will not entertain / seek any further deals in this fashion.

However, if someone here feels strongly enough about that transfer...

Feel free to report to SM. I'll face the concequences.

If I loose my account / teams then so be it.

Yeah I'll go along with that, if its against the coc then I'll do the same as above

Munster Magic · 02-02-2014 11:45AM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Listen, there's two levels for me here.

One, I do feel a tad burned a bit, and I know this point will come across as being bitter. But twice in the last 10 days, you had told me I was "top of the line" for when Salah went on sale and you'd make sure I'd get a bid in. So I kind of feel I was strung along a bit there. But that's really petty, I know. But cards on the table, I'll be honest about it.

The other is Salah was one of your best players, and I'd personally believe that once you decided to quit, the last thing you should have been doing was offer players to people. While it was "fair" to you and others, I'd argue once you decided to quit, it wasn't your decision to make then. Salah, at Chelsea, is a nailed on 90 imo, and would have been the biggest bargaining chip any new manager had coming in. A far bigger chip to negotiate with than the 17m you've left him with.

If the intentions were to leave the club in the best shape possible as well and you were dead set on selling players, why not announce he was for sale and get the best deal possible? Yeah, GT's was good but I know I could have bettered it, and I'd imagine a lot of managers would have taken a crack at bettering it as well. But even that would have been unfair, since it leaves the next manager without one of his best players imo.

I do think had monitoring been turned on, these are the type of deals that would have been reversed pretty quick; not because of "jealousy", but because it's unfair to start selling players right before you leave. AFAIK, "dodgy deals" do include ones done right before a player quits. As I said last night, this type of problem was put forward when discussing turning monitoring off and was shot down, and low and behold, here we are/

If it makes you feel any better you benefited from something similar;)

GT_TDI_150 · 02-02-2014 11:53AM

Munster Magic wrote: »

If it makes you feel any better you benefited from something similar;)

Is anyone else intregued?

eireannBEAR · 02-02-2014 11:56AM

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Is anyone else intregued?

It seems we have a case of glass houses and all that.... :rolleyes:

Lord TSC · 02-02-2014 12:02PM

Guessing Muniain. And hopefully you wouldn't hold it against me any more than I've held anything against GT this morning :P

Hercule Poirot · 02-02-2014 12:09PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Guessing Muniain. And hopefully you wouldn't hold it against me any more than I've held anything against GT this morning :P

What? Our deal was completely legit, small bit lost here

Munster Magic · 02-02-2014 12:22PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Guessing Muniain. And hopefully you wouldn't hold it against me any more than I've held anything against GT this morning :P

That all depends on who you are willing to sell me????;)

Rayne Wooney · 02-02-2014 12:34PM

Selling your best/promising players when you quit the game is a díck move, try to justify it all you want but it is what it is.

It should have been left to the next manager in to decide what he wanted to do with the players, and I'm taking a hunch but I think he would have kept hold of them.

Anyway what's done is done but leave out the bullshít justifications

eireannBEAR · 02-02-2014 12:42PM

AH!! I finally got to loan out a player..........I feel like a big shot now!!! :cool:

Munster Magic · 02-02-2014 12:43PM

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

What? Our deal was completely legit, small bit lost here

No need to worry, just winding him up a bit but he did benefit from it with the Muniain deal

KERSPLAT! · 02-02-2014 01:12PM

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Go back and check mate ....

I Was against turning off monitoring being turned off all along.

I know, I wasn't talking about you.

Good to see there is a rule against the cross world transfers, I can give up my campaign of shaming those who did it

Danger781 · 02-02-2014 01:20PM

This thread was fun to read at one point.

:rolleyes:

king size mars bar · 02-02-2014 01:54PM

Need a win tonight in a big way, or else it could turn into a very long season!

GT_TDI_150 · 02-02-2014 02:00PM

king size mars bar wrote: »

Need a win tonight in a big way, or else it could turn into a very long season!

Oooh, some plain aul match talk ....

You and me both , so we'll probably end up with a draw :rolleyes:

Danger781 · 02-02-2014 02:13PM

king size mars bar wrote: »

Need a win tonight in a big way, or else it could turn into a very long season!

Thanks you reminded me I had a game..

I need to start checking that more often

They're only 1 point behind me in the league so should be an interesting game..

Hercule Poirot · 02-02-2014 02:15PM

Gonna try a new formation against Drogba and Co, like to keep the oppo manager guessing every now and then :P

Lord TSC · 02-02-2014 02:18PM

Current form is DLWD so expecting a loss to Juvi tonight :P

eireannBEAR · 02-02-2014 02:20PM

Battle of the low flyers tonight as sunderland will play and defeat arch rival newcastle utd.

The Sunderland team have been giving instructions not to celebrate their victory,As its just an easy 3pts against another under preforming side... :P

GT_TDI_150 · 02-02-2014 02:22PM

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Gonna try a new formation against Drogba and Co, like to keep the oppo manager guessing every now and then :P

He will be ... considering there is no Drogheda in this GW

GT_TDI_150 · 02-02-2014 02:23PM

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Battle of the low flyers tonight as sunderland will play and defeat arch rival newcastle utd.

The Sunderland team have been giving instructions not to celebrate their victory,As its just an easy 3pts against another under preforming side... :P

Too soon ... yesteday still hurts!

Hercule Poirot · 02-02-2014 02:25PM

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

He will be ... considering there is no Drogheda in this GW

You may want to double check that

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