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Livestock/General Farming photo thread ***READ MOD NOTE IN POST #1***

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  • #7472
    Genghis Cant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Base price wrote: »
    Yes.

    Ya might as well go the whole hog and tell us the breeding?


  • #7473
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,820 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Genghis Cant wrote: »
    Ya might as well go the whole hog and tell us the breeding?
    Oh sorry, never thought of that. PB Blondes.


  • #7474
    Genghis Cant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Base price wrote: »
    Oh sorry, never thought of that. PB Blondes.

    That's what they looked like, any of the well known AI bulls in their breeding?


  • #7475
    sheebadog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭sheebadog


    Base price wrote: »
    Oh sorry, never thought of that. PB Blondes.

    Do they have good temperament ? Guys here are pretty wary of Blondes.


  • #7476
    Base price
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    sheebadog wrote: »
    Do they have good temperament ? Guys here are pretty wary of Blondes.
    Some were ok others were fairly sharp. Helps if you handle them as weanlings, although they were all inclined to be dodgy after calving for a few days but a lot of sucklers can be like that.


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  • #7477
    Base price
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    Genghis Cant wrote: »
    That's what they looked like, any of the well known AI bulls in their breeding?
    Both were by an imported stock bull that I had here who was decended from a very famous french cow call Halante. The two of them were out of two full sisters by a bull called Arlequin from straws that I imported.


  • #7478
    Genghis Cant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Base price wrote: »
    Both were by an imported stock bull that I had here who was decended from a very famous french cow call Halante. The two of them were out of two full sisters by a bull called Arlequin from straws that I imported.

    Serious cattle. The Blondes cross very well with the Charolais.


  • #7479
    Base price
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    Genghis Cant wrote: »
    Serious cattle. The Blondes cross very well with the Charolais.
    Only place I ever seen that done was in France. Some of the French CH breeders use BA on the heifers, better chance of getting a live calf.
    We never used much AI here as either the bulls were not up to the standard that I required, as in too small and short (UK style) or too closely related to my own stock.
    My favourite suckler cross was a BAxSH. Had a few of them here over the years and they were serious cows, plenty of milk, good mothers/temperament and a nice tight bag.
    If I was ever to go back into suckling again I would be aiming to source that cross if I could get my hands on some with decent beef shorthorn in them.


  • #7480
    hugo29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    Base price wrote: »
    Only place I ever seen that done was in France. Some of the French CH breeders use BA on the heifers, better chance of getting a live calf.
    We never used much AI here as either the bulls were not up to the standard that I required, as in too small and short (UK style) or too closely related to my own stock.
    My favourite suckler cross was a BAxSH. Had a few of them here over the years and they were serious cows, plenty of milk, good mothers/temperament and a nice tight bag.
    If I was ever to go back into suckling again I would be aiming to source that cross if I could get my hands on some with decent beef shorthorn in them.

    Now that is an interesting cross, one I would never have thought off, would bring some nice CH calves to the table,


  • #7481
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Base price wrote: »
    OH reckons the cow was around the tonne mark. When he brought them to the factory he told the guys on the shoot not to run her through the crush gate at the front cause she was so big. He went into the office with paperwork and a few mins later one of the lads came running in looking for him.
    The lads had let her out through the crush gate and she got stuck :mad:. Big panic all around with Dept vet on hand etc. They had to get an angle grinder and cut the posts of the crush to get her out.
    Luckily no damage done to her. A pity in one way we didn't weigh her, would have been interesting to see what percentage she killed out at.
    Must go back and look at the picutres now:rolleyes:


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  • #7482
    massey265
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭massey265


    Midlandsman80 wrote: »
    Three heifers i hope to AI in The coming 4-7 weeks....
    Nice heifers there mandm, but am intrested in your shed as I see its not slatted, how does the straw bedding last and how often you clean it out? as I am planning a shed to winter weanlings/bullocks, fed up off them ploughing up the rough grazing.


  • #7483
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Base price wrote: »
    My favourite suckler cross was a BAxSH. Had a few of them here over the years and they were serious cows, plenty of milk, good mothers/temperament and a nice tight bag.
    If I was ever to go back into suckling again I would be aiming to source that cross if I could get my hands on some with decent beef shorthorn in them.
    Yup that would be a good cow alright, just hard to get


  • #7484
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Born this evening. Hdx heifer calf, small but healthy!!


  • #7485
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,684 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Born this evening. Hdx heifer calf, small but healthy!!

    Healthy is the important part, best of luck with her robin


  • #7486
    towzer2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 533 ✭✭✭towzer2010


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Born this evening. Hdx heifer calf, small but healthy!!
    She doesn't seem that small. Nice shape as well.


  • #7487
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Yep putting weight on her legs. Father is delighted

    Do ye ever consider shackles on a such cows greengrass?, we use em the odd time here and find they're handy to prevent em doing the splits


  • #7488
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Milked out wrote: »
    Do ye ever consider shackles on a such cows greengrass?, we use em the odd time here and find they're handy to prevent em doing the splits

    Never used them. Concrete around milking parlour us very poor, like glass. There wasn't enough sand in the mix I'd say when it was put down so its very slippy. This lady won't go near the milkers for a week any way


  • #7489
    biddy2013
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭biddy2013


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Never used them. Concrete around milking parlour us very poor, like glass. There wasn't enough sand in the mix I'd say when it was put down so its very slippy. This lady won't go near the milkers for a week any way
    even a rope on them for a few days, let one like that with the cows a few months ago and a total b"tch came over headbutted her and knocked her down, plenty of fooks


  • #7490
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    biddy2013 wrote: »
    even a rope on them for a few days, let one like that with the cows a few months ago and a total b"tch came over headbutted her and knocked her down, plenty of fooks

    On her side again this morning. She sat down at 12 last night and she had been standing since 3 yesterday.
    I wonder would she be okay to keep on for another yr? She is nearly 8


  • #7491
    ellewood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    td5man wrote: »
    Was quoted around 2k for sheeting for a 72'x35 shed recently.


    Was that plus or including Vat ?


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  • #7492
    biddy2013
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    On her side again this morning. She sat down at 12 last night and she had been standing since 3 yesterday.
    I wonder would she be okay to keep on for another yr? She is nearly 8
    do you put a small square bale of straw behind her shoulder to keep her propped up when shes sitting down?


  • #7493
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    biddy2013 wrote: »
    do you put a small square bale of straw behind her shoulder to keep her propped up when shes sitting down?

    Ye no use. She tries to get up and falls over. Won't stand today


  • #7494
    biddy2013
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭biddy2013


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Ye no use. She tries to get up and falls over. Won't stand today
    :(


  • #7495
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    biddy2013 wrote: »
    :(

    Tired I reckon. Used a lot of energy standing all day yesterday


  • #7496
    Base price
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Tired I reckon. Used a lot of energy standing all day yesterday
    Have you given her any electrolytes - always found that it can help after a difficult calving. I used to get it to them warm though.


  • #7497
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Base price wrote: »
    Have you given her any electrolytes - always found that it can help after a difficult calving. I used to get it to them warm though.

    Will try that. Ye would need to give a cow more though?


  • #7498
    Base price
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Will try that. Ye would need to give a cow more though?
    More in volume but not in strength. I used to offer them about 10 ltrs at a time and even if they only drank half it was better than nothing. Keep offering it to her but allow her fresh water after.
    Trick I found was to give it warm/tepid.


  • #7499
    Base price
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    Greengrass1, how is she doing.
    I know the weather is ****e at the moment but if you could get her out onto a bit of dry pasture so she can get a grip with her hinds. I found over the years that cows felt more secure on grass and therefore more willing to stand up.


  • #7500
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Base price wrote: »
    Greengrass1, how is she doing.
    I know the weather is ****e at the moment but if you could get her out onto a bit of dry pasture so she can get a grip with her hinds. I found over the years that cows felt more secure on grass and therefore more willing to stand up.

    Wouldn't stand today. And she was getting on very week yesterday. Wanted to do that but father wouldn't aggre. She is attempting to get up but hasn't got the strength to. She us on s deep bed of straw too.
    Gave here warm water and glucose today


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  • #7501
    Base price
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Wouldn't stand today. And she was getting on very week yesterday. Wanted to do that but father wouldn't aggre. She is attempting to get up but hasn't got the strength to. She us on s deep bed of straw too.
    Gave here warm water and glucose today
    Best of luck with her.
    Years ago had a CHx heifer that went down due to a difficult calving. She went down in the crush while the vet sectioned the calf. The vet advised us to drag her out of the crush with the tractor (loop around her forelegs) and bring her to the field. Her back legs were paralysed and she could not stand. We put her in a rope sling hoisted from the front loader for a few hours every day and moved her to a new spot each day. Propped her up with bales, fed her meal sprinkled with glucose, hay and electrolytes and covered her with old horse rugs and a old carpet at night. She was down for 17 days but eventually made it through.
    If you have the time and are willing to stick with them then they will normally pull through, but it does take time, commitment and lots of patience.
    IMO it is better time spent than phoning for the dead lorry to come and paying them to take them away.


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