Rust on car

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 08:45PM #1

Hi,

I have some rust on the wing of my car on the lower wing just over the wheel. I just put it through the NCT 3 weeks ago and it passed so they either didn't notice it bubbling or it was in a passable state.

I had this repaired by mechanic about a year and a half ago, but have noticed today that the paint is starting to bubble pretty badly again and some rust is visible, a small amount not that much.

How long can I leave this before needing to do it again? I am thinking I will get away with until the next NCT next year but I don't know.

Also will this constantly have to be done every once in a while, is there a more permanent fix?.

Bigus · 23-01-2014 08:47PM

What age and type of car is it ?

toastedpickles · 23-01-2014 08:47PM

Whats the make of the car? usually you can repair it but cutting the area around it out and sticking in a new piece, it depends how far gone the rust is really

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 09:11PM

Bigus wrote: »

What age and type of car is it ?

03 Fiesta

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 09:12PM

toastedpickles wrote: »

Whats the make of the car? usually you can repair it but cutting the area around it out and sticking in a new piece, it depends how far gone the rust is really

very little rust showing at the moment but paint starting to bubble up as already mentioned.

biko · 23-01-2014 09:23PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

How long can I leave this before needing to do it again?

Five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred minutes

Tbh, get it looked at pronto before it spreads.

JohnBoy26 · 23-01-2014 09:26PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

very little rust showing at the moment but paint starting to bubble up as already mentioned.

One of the front wings is it?

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 09:30PM

biko wrote: »

Five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred minutes

Tbh, get it looked at pronto before it spreads.

Ok, will get it done within the next month, Thanks.

Will this job only take a few hours for Mechanic to do?.

I know he has to strip it, then apply the filler and allow to dry and then paint and repaint.

so can it all be done in a few hours / a day?

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 09:41PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

One of the front wings is it?

Man, I ain't no mechanic and know nothing about cars.

JohnBoy26 · 23-01-2014 09:43PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

Man, I ain't no mechanic and know nothing about cars.

You don't have to be

do you know if the rust is above one of the rear wheels or one of the front wheels?

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 09:45PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

You don't have to be do you know if the rust is above one of the rear wheels or one of the front wheels?

front passenger side.

fluff_daddy · 23-01-2014 10:05PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

One of the front wings is it?

Brian2011 wrote: »

Man, I ain't no mechanic and know nothing about cars.

Haha. I know what a wing is. Might open up a garage

JohnBoy26 · 23-01-2014 10:08PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

front passenger side.

In that case I'd be getting a second hand rust frer wing in a breakers. Those wings are replaceable and can be got cheaply enough, so I wouldn't be too worried about the rust on your wing.

If your lucky enough you might be able to source a wing with the same colour as your car. That would save you the cost of repainting. Even if you can't get one in the same colour I'd still be getting one and getting it repainted.

The reason I say replace rather than repair is because it will be a much longer lasting job. It is highly likely that your rusty wing will be rusty again in a short space of time because it's impossible to irradicate every spec of rust. On a replacement rust free wing you won't have this issue.

Provided your car is the same model as the one below, you should have no trouble picking up a rust free wing as this model wasn't really prone to rust.

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 10:20PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

In that case I'd be getting a second hand rust frer wing in a breakers. Those wings are replaceable and can be got cheaply enough, so I wouldn't be too worried about the rust on your wing.

If your lucky enough you might be able to source a wing with the same colour as your car. That would save you the cost of repainting. Even if you can't get one in the same colour I'd still be getting one and getting it repainted.

The reason I say replace rather than repair is because it will be a much longer lasting job. It is highly likely that your rusty wing will be rusty again in a short space of time because it's impossible to irradicate every spec of rust. On a replacement rust free wing you won't have this issue.

Provided your car is the same model as the one below, you should have no trouble picking up a rust free wing as this model wasn't really prone to rust.

Thanks for advice but sounds like a whole load of hassle and costly, would prefer to just keep fixing it every year and then when I decide to sell it on it will then be the new owners problem. I will have it fixed up before again before sale of course and no need to mention it.

sawdoubters · 23-01-2014 10:23PM

rust spreads like wildfire

http://www.wikihow.com/Remove-Rust-from-a-Car

JohnBoy26 · 23-01-2014 10:25PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

Thanks for advice but sounds like a whole load of hassle and costly, would prefer to just keep fixing it every year and then when I decide to sell it on it will then be the new owners problem. I will have it fixed up before again before sale of course and no need to mention it.

You should have no issue picking up a wing though. It would make more economical sense to replace once and be done with it rather than having to get it repaired every year or so. Your decision though of course

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 10:26PM

sawdoubters wrote: »

rust spreads like wildfire

http://www.wikihow.com/Remove-Rust-from-a-Car

Yes I am going to get it repaired soon but I am not going to replace the wing as suggested by other poster, Thanks

JohnBoy26 · 23-01-2014 10:31PM

sawdoubters wrote: »

rust spreads like wildfire

http://www.wikihow.com/Remove-Rust-from-a-Car

The worst that will happen is the rust will spread on the wing. The rust on the wing won't effect other parts of the car.

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 10:31PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

You should have no issue picking up a wing though. It would make more economical sense to replace once and be done with it rather than having to get it repaired every year or so. Your decision though of course

Well I only plan to have the car for maybe 2 or 3 years more so I will repair it now at cost of about €50 I would think (I will supply garage with paint) and before I sell it so another €50 equals €100

A wing from breakers maybe €50 plus cost of painting it and fitting it another €100 I would reckon.

JohnBoy26 · 23-01-2014 10:33PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

Well I only plan to have the car for maybe 2 or 3 years more so I will repair it now at cost of about €50 I would think (I will supply garage with paint) and before I sell it so another €50 equals €100

A wing from breakers maybe €50 plus cost of painting it and fitting it another €100 I would reckon.

You won't get a wing painted for €50, not properly anyway.

hi_im_fil · 23-01-2014 10:36PM

It should be way cheaper to source a wing from a breakers and get it fitted.

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 10:37PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

You won't get a wing painted for €50, not properly anyway.

The repair area is relatively small, around 7 inches long, 2-3 inches wide.

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 10:38PM

hi_im_fil wrote: »

It should be way cheaper to source a wing from a breakers and get it fitted.

painting it the same colour is the most expensive part which u forgot, labour time and paint cost.

Superdedupity · 23-01-2014 10:41PM

Buy a wing from a breakers in the same colour with a factory finish. Cheapest best way to fix (johnboys giving you good advice)

JohnBoy26 · 23-01-2014 10:43PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

The repair area is relatively small, around 7 inches long, 2-3 inches wide.

the whole wing will have to be sprayed though and blended in to the rest of the paintwork. Spraying just the effected area will leave the paint work mismatched and the repaired area very obvious and rough looking.

Yawns · 23-01-2014 10:46PM

Ugh seriously. It will be far far far cheaper to do as John suggests and get a replacement from the breakers. This talk of paying only €50 once a year to treat it is out the window fairy talk. That's the nicest way of putting it. Listen to John, he's helping you save money.

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 10:48PM

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

the whole wing will have to be sprayed though and blended in to the rest of the paintwork. Spraying just the effected area will leave the paint work mismatched and the repaired area very obvious and rough looking.

How much are we talking so if we go this route and assuming I cannot source a wing the same colour from my local breakers, which is highly likely that they won't have the same colour car. I might take a pic tomorrow and send it to you if that's ok?

Thanks very much for your advice sir.

hi_im_fil · 23-01-2014 10:52PM

To spray a wing (properly) you're talking €200 upwards. To get someone to fix rust and spray a wing its going to be more. To get someone to fit a wing (if you find one in the correct colour) I'd say roughly €50.

Brian2011 · 23-01-2014 10:54PM

hi_im_fil wrote: »

To spray a wing (properly) you're talking €200 upwards. To get someone to fix rust and spray a wing its going to be more. To get someone to fit a wing (if you find one in the correct colour) I'd say roughly €50.

Thats an awful lot

JohnBoy26 · 23-01-2014 11:22PM

Brian2011 wrote: »

How much are we talking so if we go this route and assuming I cannot source a wing the same colour from my local breakers, which is highly likely that they won't have the same colour car. I might take a pic tomorrow and send it to you if that's ok?
Thanks very much for your advice sir.

Well it all depends on weather your able to source a wing in the same colour or if you will have to go down the repainting route. The former will cost a good bit less so id be going down that route first.

prices vary on the repainting route and is usually dependent on the quality of the job carried out. Im not a panel beater or painter myself so I can't give an exact figure but it would be up around the €200 mark for a good job afaik.

Your best bet would be to post a pic on here of the wing. That way other posters might be able to give some advice as well.

From your description of the wing I have no doubt that it can be repaired and any body shop will probably tell you the same but my point is for a little extra(circa €50 price of s/h wing) you could have a superior job.

Remember if they have to repair your old wing they will have to fill and sand the effected area and repaint the wing anyway so it won't be any more cost effective than fitting a s/h rust free wing.

Superdedupity · 24-01-2014 12:16AM

Partfinder.ie to find a wing

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