January wildcard

CSF · 23-01-2014 03:05PM

8-10 wrote: »

Downgrade Sturridge, you need at least 1 Chelsea player. Really should be Hazard but if not him then Oscar, Cech, Azpilicueta, Willian or Terry would be the ones to look at. I'd go Cech in your situation. Who is your reserve keeper? Anything in the bank?

Why do you think it is such a necessity?

8-10 · 23-01-2014 03:07PM

CSF wrote: »

Why do you think it is such a necessity?

I think they'll come close to winning the league. And they won't do it traditionally by scoring goals from their strikers like City (as we can see so far), they'll do it from scoring from midfield and keeping tight at the back.

CSF · 23-01-2014 04:46PM

8-10 wrote: »

I think they'll come close to winning the league. And they won't do it traditionally by scoring goals from their strikers like City (as we can see so far), they'll do it from scoring from midfield and keeping tight at the back.

In terms of midfield I don't think anyone is likely to score that highly, that frequently other than Hazard. He is a player that I think teams should have, Willian and Oscar no.

I don't think Chelsea are value defensively. No issue with anyone having a Chelsea defender but it definitely isn't a necessity.

Everyone should have Hazard, but if one is choosing to overlook him for whatever reason, it isn't crucial to bridge that gap with another Chelsea player IMO.

8-10 · 23-01-2014 05:19PM

CSF wrote: »

In terms of midfield I don't think anyone is likely to score that highly, that frequently other than Hazard. He is a player that I think teams should have, Willian and Oscar no.

I don't think Chelsea are value defensively. No issue with anyone having a Chelsea defender but it definitely isn't a necessity.

Everyone should have Hazard, but if one is choosing to overlook him for whatever reason, it isn't crucial to bridge that gap with another Chelsea player IMO.

Yep very fair point. I think it's obvious that the OP originally picked Mata over Hazard and wants Mata in the team. I would only do that if I was going Oscar as well. My wildcard for most of the week had Hazard and Oscar but I ended up downgrading to Lallana to upgrade defense. I reckon the gap between Hazard and Oscar's contributions will lessen as the season goes on, but I agree Hazard is pretty much as essential as you get. Willian is definitely on my radar in the Lallana/Eriksen/Cabaye bracket as I think he's fallen to a value that could be a good gamble if the above lose form/get transfered. Terry is one of the top defenders in the game, if I could afford him I'd have him no problem. Cech I mentioned because he's only 0.1m above Szezcney that the OP has and would be more long term option than doubling up on Arsenal.

Hazard was glaringly missing from the original team. I'm starting to like the second one but it needs a bit of tweaking.

Mert + Coleman + Yaya + Hazard + Ramsey + Mata + Suarez + Aguero is about as perfect as you can get with a first 8. If you can get these 8 in with enough money to have half-decent, well rotating backups then you're golden!

Danger781 · 23-01-2014 05:27PM

CrabieCrawford wrote: »

Can do a 3-5-2

Szczesney //Davis
Mertesacker Coleman Bruce //Mariappa Baker
Yaya Ramsey Mata Januzaj Hazard
Suarez Aguero //Mason

or Januzaj>Brady, Mason>Chamakh

Doubling up on Arsenal? Personally I'd drop one of Szczesny / Mert and bring in someone cheaper. Let's say you drop Szczesny to Boruc. At current prices that saves you 1.3.

Mata and Januzaj is a bit much United (Assume Mata is actually on his way). Pick one or the other. I'm assuming you want Mata so drop Januzaj to someone cheaper who actually plays. Or alternatively use the spare cash to upgrade him.

You've also chosen Mason, who hasn't played a single game all season and doesn't seem likely to play any time soon. Terrible decision.

Swiper the fox · 23-01-2014 05:44PM

Danger781 wrote: »

Doubling up on Arsenal? Personally I'd drop one of Szczesny / Mert and bring in someone cheaper. Let's say you drop Szczesny to Boruc. At current prices that saves you 1.3.

Mata and Januzaj is a bit much United (Assume Mata is actually on his way). Pick one or the other. I'm assuming you want Mata so drop Januzaj to someone cheaper who actually plays. Or alternatively use the spare cash to upgrade him.

You've also chosen Mason, who hasn't played a single game all season and doesn't seem likely to play any time soon. Terrible decision.

I know you are a united fan, Januzaj has started 7 of the last 8 in the league, I've become a bit of a cheerleader in recent days but only because he has impressed me so much, do you think he will be dropped now that Mata has signed? It would seem harsh to me. At full strength I think we'll see Valencia lose out with Mata, Rooney and Januzaj all accommodated behind Van Persie. There's a lot of goals in that lineup.

bezuaua · 23-01-2014 05:58PM

WC activated... but cannot settle on the GK's!!
Currently have Manonne/Steven Davies but not very confident in relying on sunderland defense. Next 3 GW are attractive (Stoke H, Newcastle A, Hull H) but from there it's City and Arsenal both away...

8-10 · 23-01-2014 06:17PM

bezuaua wrote: »

WC activated... but cannot settle on the GK's!!
Currently have Manonne/Steven Davies but not very confident in relying on sunderland defense. Next 3 GW are attractive (Stoke H, Newcastle A, Hull H) but from there it's City and Arsenal both away...

I like Adrian/Boruc and Krul/Vorm as rotation options

Scorpion Sting · 23-01-2014 06:43PM

8-10 wrote: »

I like Adrian/Boruc and Krul/Vorm as rotation options

Is Adrian first choice now?

Mr. Incognito · 23-01-2014 06:56PM

8-10 wrote: »

I like Adrian/Boruc and Krul/Vorm as rotation options

Boruc and Speroni.

Perfect until the end of the season and two clean sheets in the last two

G1032 · 23-01-2014 07:29PM

What to do about Yaya?

Yaya 2012/13 - 142 points
2011/12 - 139 points
Total - 281

Silva 2012/13 - 147 points
2011/12 - 184 points
Total - 331

Silva has outscored Yaya by 50 points over the last two full seasons. That means little I know, but the points listed above shows that Yaya is far exceeding his FF expectations this year. The bubble will burst. He can't keep
scoring free kicks like he has done.

Silva has missed 9 full matches this year but his points per 90 minutes is 6.53 compared to 6.63 for Yaya

I think I'm going to stick with Silva. He's more or less a million cheaper and that money can be used to upgrade Adebayor if neccessary. It looks like I'll have no Arsenal attacking cover after WC and may need Giroud soon if he hits a bit a form again.

It'll leave me with a front 7 of

Mata, Silva, Hazard, Noone, Lallana/Ramsey/Cabaye, Suarez, Aguero, Adebayor
and 3 top defenders - Kos, Azpil and Baines

and I'll be left with ~1.2m in the bank

It gives me the option to keep Mert instead of Kos too

FHFC · 23-01-2014 08:28PM

G1032 wrote: »

What to do about Yaya?

Yaya 2012/13 - 142 points
2011/12 - 139 points
Total - 281

Silva 2012/13 - 147 points
2011/12 - 184 points
Total - 331

Silva has outscored Yaya by 50 points over the last two full seasons. That means little I know, but the points listed above shows that Yaya is far exceeding his FF expectations this year. The bubble will burst. He can't keep
scoring free kicks like he has done.

Silva has missed 9 full matches this year but his points per 90 minutes is 6.53 compared to 6.63 for Yaya

I think I'm going to stick with Silva. He's more or less a million cheaper and that money can be used to upgrade Adebayor if neccessary. It looks like I'll have no Arsenal attacking cover after WC and may need Giroud soon if he hits a bit a form again.

It'll leave me with a front 7 of

Mata, Silva, Hazard, Noone, Lallana/Ramsey/Cabaye, Suarez, Aguero, Adebayor
and 3 top defenders - Kos, Azpil and Baines

and I'll be left with ~1.2m in the bank

It gives me the option to keep Mert instead of Kos too

Had more or less decided to go over to the Yaya dark side. But you've given me something to think about. Thanks. I know someone will point out that Yaya had ACON most years but still good stats for Silva.

76% in my league have Yaya so I still haven't decided if that makes him essential or makes Silva a great differential.....

G1032 · 23-01-2014 08:39PM

FHFC wrote: »

Had more or less decided to go over to the Yaya dark side. But you've given me something to think about. Thanks. I know someone will point out that Yaya had ACON most years but still good stats for Silva.

76% in my league have Yaya so I still haven't decided if that makes him essential or makes Silva a great differential.....

Is that 76% relevant though? How many in your league can actually challenge for prizes? How many of the leaders have him?

patmac · 23-01-2014 08:47PM

Thinking off:

Szczesny,Marshall
Coleman,Davies,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Mata,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Livermore
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez
Or
Szczesny,Marshall
Coleman,Gabri,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Cabaye,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Wiltshire
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez

What do ye think?

who_ru · 23-01-2014 08:54PM

G1032 wrote: »

What to do about Yaya?

Yaya 2012/13 - 142 points
2011/12 - 139 points
Total - 281

Silva 2012/13 - 147 points
2011/12 - 184 points
Total - 331

Silva has outscored Yaya by 50 points over the last two full seasons. That means little I know, but the points listed above shows that Yaya is far exceeding his FF expectations this year. The bubble will burst. He can't keep
scoring free kicks like he has done.

Silva has missed 9 full matches this year but his points per 90 minutes is 6.53 compared to 6.63 for Yaya

I think I'm going to stick with Silva. He's more or less a million cheaper and that money can be used to upgrade Adebayor if neccessary. It looks like I'll have no Arsenal attacking cover after WC and may need Giroud soon if he hits a bit a form again.

It'll leave me with a front 7 of

Mata, Silva, Hazard, Noone, Lallana/Ramsey/Cabaye, Suarez, Aguero, Adebayor
and 3 top defenders - Kos, Azpil and Baines

and I'll be left with ~1.2m in the bank

It gives me the option to keep Mert instead of Kos too

I don't agree that Silva can be expected to outscore YaYa.
In each of the 2 seasons you have selected YaYa was playing under Mancini's rigid tactics, he was held back in midfield a lot, had defensive duties that shackled him, under Pellegrini has has a much freer role, less defensive duties, Fernandihno covers that position now, so i think he can continue to score very well for the remainder of the season.

G1032 · 23-01-2014 08:59PM

who_ru wrote: »

I don't agree that Silva can be expected to outscore YaYa.
In each of the 2 seasons you have selected YaYa was playing under Mancini's rigid tactics, he was held back in midfield a lot, had defensive duties that shackled him, under Pellegrini has has a much freer role, less defensive duties, Fernandihno covers that position now, so i think he can continue to score very well for the remainder of the season.

Does anyone know how many of Yaya's goals have come from play? That'll be a big factor for me.

G1032 · 23-01-2014 09:02PM

patmac wrote: »

Thinking off:

Szczesny,Marshall
Coleman,Davies,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Mata,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Livermore
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez
Or
Szczesny,Marshall
Coleman,Gabri,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Cabaye,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Wiltshire
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez

What do ye think?

I think you have too much money invested in the goalkeepers

Swiper the fox · 23-01-2014 09:11PM

G1032 wrote: »

Does anyone know how many of Yaya's goals have come from play? That'll be a big factor for me.

That's an unusual consideration, a goal is 5 points, his free kick technique is outrageously good this year, he will continue to have success with them, I think it roryc who has pointed out elsewhere and there's a lot of truth in it that Yaya has gotten a lot greedier, he see's himself as an elite attacking midfield player now, he wants to score lots of goals. The upshot of this is that his previous returns in FPL aren't as relevant as might otherwise be the case. I'd rather him over any other midfielder right now, even Hazard, pity he has such high ownership, I find myself hoping he'll pick up an injury that'll keep him out for a while, makes it more interesting to have a spread of players rather than everyone having the same

patmac · 23-01-2014 09:32PM

patmac wrote: »

Thinking off:

Szczesny,Marshall
Coleman,Davies,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Mata,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Livermore
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez
Or
Szczesny,Marshall
Coleman,Gabri,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Cabaye,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Wiltshire
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez

What do ye think?

G1032 wrote: »

I think you have too much money invested in the goalkeepers

So take out Szczecin and put in Manone giving me 1.8m more

Manone,Marshall
Coleman,Davies,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Mata,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Wilshire
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez
Or
Manone,Marshall
Coleman,Sagna,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Mata,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Sidwell
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez

G1032 · 23-01-2014 09:37PM

patmac wrote: »

So take out Szczecin and put in Manone giving me 1.8m more

Manone,Marshall
Coleman,Davies,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Mata,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Wilshire
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez
Or
Manone,Marshall
Coleman,Sagna,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Mata,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Sidwell
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez

It's one option. In the past I've gotten keeper rotation badly wrong. This year I started with Mig, switched to Szcz and had a non playing sub. I'm on WC now and I'll probably end up with Boruc and Kelvin Davis

G1032 · 23-01-2014 09:39PM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

That's an unusual consideration, a goal is 5 points, his free kick technique is outrageously good this year, he will continue to have success with them, I think it roryc who has pointed out elsewhere and there's a lot of truth in it that Yaya has gotten a lot greedier, he see's himself as an elite attacking midfield player now, he wants to score lots of goals. The upshot of this is that his previous returns in FPL aren't as relevant as might otherwise be the case. I'd rather him over any other midfielder right now, even Hazard, pity he has such high ownership, I find myself hoping he'll pick up an injury that'll keep him out for a while, makes it more interesting to have a spread of players rather than everyone having the same

But will he continue to have success with them? I just think it's hard to see that free kick conversion rate continuing. At 10.1m he just seems very expensive.

FHFC · 23-01-2014 09:40PM

G1032 wrote: »

Is that 76% relevant though? How many in your league can actually challenge for prizes? How many of the leaders have him?

Good question, but kinda sorry you asked!

Winner of my league will probably come from current top 10 of which I am 6th.

Of the top ten, guess what, I'm the 9 have Yaya, and then there's me! So 90%.

If I expand it to the top 15 it becomes 13 of the 15 have Yaya or 87%.

So. Now is he essential??

8-10 · 23-01-2014 09:41PM

patmac wrote: »

Thinking off:

Szczesny,Marshall
Coleman,Davies,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Mata,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Livermore
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez
Or
Szczesny,Marshall
Coleman,Gabri,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Cabaye,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Wiltshire
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez

What do ye think?

Who's Gabri?

G1032 · 23-01-2014 09:46PM

FHFC wrote: »

Good question, but kinda sorry you asked!

Winner of my league will probably come from current top 10 of which I am 6th.

Of the top ten, guess what, I'm the 9 have Yaya, and then there's me! So 90%.

If I expand it to the top 15 it becomes 13 of the 15 have Yaya or 87%.

So. Now is he essential??

Looks like you need Yaya! You've no choice really, have you?

Edit. 3 out of the top 5 in my league have Yaya. Top 3 in the league are well inside the top 10,000 in the world. I'm a long way behind but am still in the hunt for prize money places. Comes back to your question now.. Is Yaya eds essential for me or is Silva a good differential?

FHFC · 23-01-2014 10:01PM

G1032 wrote: »

Looks like you need Yaya! You've no choice really, have you?

Edit. 3 out of the top 5 in my league have Yaya. Top 3 in the league are well inside the top 10,000 in the world. I'm a long way behind but am still in the hunt for prize money places. Comes back to your question now.. Is Yaya eds essential for me or is Silva a good differential?

I'm coming to the reluctant conclusion that he is essential. With such high ownership in potential for double figure returns he can hurt you so much. In your case if you are well back you need differentials but IMO also need to cover players who can put you out of sight if they keep even 80% of their pace to date. So yes you probably need him, Coleman and probably Hazard for now, with differentials elsewhere.

Top of my league is 3,000 in world, 10th is about 37k. I'm in the middle at just cover 20k. I think you are right I don't have a choice. I am looking possibly to I RVP for my differential, esp with Mata there now too.

Of those 9 rivals of mine, only 2 don't have both Yaya and Hazard so even having them both only gonna hold ground, I'm gonna have to look for my differential elsewhere.

G1032 · 23-01-2014 10:03PM

Everton have away games against Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea in their next 5 GWs
Would it be wise to hold off on Baines until after them 5 games or should I throw him and hope he picks a penalty or free kick?

G1032 · 23-01-2014 10:06PM

FHFC wrote: »

I'm coming to the reluctant conclusion that he is essential. With such high ownership in potential for double figure returns he can hurt you so much. In your case if you are well back you need differentials but IMO also need to cover players who can put you out of sight if they keep even 80% of their pace to date. So yes you probably need him, Coleman and probably Hazard for now, with differentials elsewhere.

Top of my league is 3,000 in world, 10th is about 37k. I'm in the middle at just cover 20k. I think you are right I don't have a choice. I am looking possibly to I RVP for my differential, esp with Mata there now too.

Of those 9 rivals of mine, only 2 don't have both Yaya and Hazard so even having them both only gonna hold ground, I'm gonna have to look for my differential elsewhere.

Sold Coleman the last night. I had the almost 100% intention of bringing in Baines but now I'm not so sure! This January WC is a b@lls and should be scrapped. And the other WC. And Captains!

patmac · 23-01-2014 10:07PM

8-10 wrote: »

Who's Gabri?

Meant Sagna sorry

alchemist33 · 23-01-2014 11:23PM

FHFC wrote: »

I'm coming to the reluctant conclusion that he is essential. With such high ownership in potential for double figure returns he can hurt you so much. In your case if you are well back you need differentials but IMO also need to cover players who can put you out of sight if they keep even 80% of their pace to date. So yes you probably need him, Coleman and probably Hazard for now, with differentials elsewhere.

Top of my league is 3,000 in world, 10th is about 37k. I'm in the middle at just cover 20k. I think you are right I don't have a choice. I am looking possibly to I RVP for my differential, esp with Mata there now too.

Of those 9 rivals of mine, only 2 don't have both Yaya and Hazard so even having them both only gonna hold ground, I'm gonna have to look for my differential elsewhere.

Another consideration in my mind is that Silva seems to be getting a lot of niggling injuries, whereas Yaya is a tank.

patmac · 23-01-2014 11:47PM

Getting close now like the look of this:
Manone,Marshall
Coleman,Sagna,Gabbidon,Shaw,Turner
Johnson,Yaya,Ki Sung-Yueng,Hazard,Livermore
Agüero,Suárez,Rodriguez

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