Scum terrorise older man to moving into a home...

whomitconcerns · 21-01-2014 10:17AM #1

2 20 year olds and a 21 year old....what can we do to stop scum like this terrorising people....3 times they robbed the same poor isolated man. And they will probably get away with it too..

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/pensioner-who-cycled-30-miles-in-terror-has-never-returned-home-29933922.html

Three men have pleaded guilty to robbing Mr McMahon.

Joseph Lernihan (21), of Finnanon Park, Mullagh, pleaded guilty to robbing Mr McMahon at Drumellihy West, Cree, on February 21 and 25, 2012, with Shane Donnellan (20), of Clohanbeg, Cree, Kilrush, and Noel Garry (20), of Tullycrine, Kilrush, pleading guilty to the robbery of Mr McMahon on February 25, 2012.

anncoates · 21-01-2014 10:19AM

Is there really a place down the country calked Mullagh?

Tabnabs · 21-01-2014 10:22AM

It's a shame the old guy didn't cycle up to Padraig Nally's house and swap with him for a week or two.

the groutch · 21-01-2014 10:28AM

whomitconcerns wrote: »

And they will probably get away with it too..

how are they getting away with it?
yes they might get slightly lighter sentences for pleading guilty, but they will get sentenced in accordance with the law
No matter how much of a scumbag somebody is, there is a limit to the sentence that can be imposed, would you have a judge risk getting himself barred for trying to impose a longer sentence?

whomitconcerns · 21-01-2014 10:37AM

the groutch wrote: »

how are they getting away with it?
yes they might get slightly lighter sentences for pleading guilty, but they will get sentenced in accordance with the law
No matter how much of a scumbag somebody is, there is a limit to the sentence that can be imposed, would you have a judge risk getting himself barred for trying to impose a longer sentence?

you see I do agree with appropriate sentencing...but here if you look at all the facts...repeated aggravated burglary...assault...i am not sure exactly what the name of the other crimes would be.. If you add up the sentences for all those and impose them it is sufficient. However, we do see and it is proven time and time again, that this will not happen. Ok they wont "get away with it" but too often they do not feel the full penalty and the man they attacked has his life permanently changed...

Canis Lupus · 21-01-2014 10:37AM

They're scum and I hope they go away for a long time but more fool him to not report it and go back to his old way of keeping large sums of money in jars around the bloody house.... Flipping idiot.

It's sad but we're not living back in the good old days anymore.

eviltimeban · 21-01-2014 10:38AM

anncoates wrote: »

Is there really a place down the country calked Mullagh?

Yes and its close to a place called Nobber.

Son Of A Vidic · 21-01-2014 10:56AM

the groutch wrote: »

..No matter how much of a scumbag somebody is, there is a limit to the sentence that can be imposed..

Which is unfortunate, because as a wise person once said, it should be a case of ♫ No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no limit! ♫

Lapin · 21-01-2014 11:14AM

I hope the judge makes an example of these knackers and throws the book at them.

This man's life is ruined and crimes like this are happening all too often.

Time for the 'justice system' to grow a pair and protect law abiding members of society.

Thats all we expect and its not much to ask.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 21-01-2014 11:28AM

Public gallows and a 10% levy on their income (even their dole) until 10 times the amount of what was robbed is paid back to their victim.

Jail/suspended sentence won't be justice for the poor man that they robbed.

biko · 21-01-2014 12:37PM

Preying on the elderly is a sign of a true scumbag.

Joseph Lernihan
Shane Donnellan
Noel Garry

Good luck finding jobs in the future.

Axel Lamp · 21-01-2014 12:45PM

biko wrote: »

Preying on the elderly is a sign of a true scumbag.

Good luck finding jobs in the future.

1st Scummer Joseph Lernihan's FB page is open. Boyracing scumbag too.

moxin · 21-01-2014 12:46PM

Sentencing on March 3rd. Predictions? One will get 6 months with 3 yrs suspended, the others will get 3 yrs suspended each. Something like that anyway. If it was a judges house robbed like that, you'll know the sentence.

Larbre34 · 21-01-2014 12:48PM

biko wrote: »

Preying on the elderly is a sign of a true scumbag.

Good luck finding jobs in the future.

Good luck on them even bothering to try.

whomitconcerns · 21-01-2014 12:49PM

Axel Lamp wrote: »

1st Scummer Joseph Lernihan's FB page is open. Boyracing scumbag too.

He got engaged last April...wonder how he paid for that ring :P She will be so proud.

golfball37 · 21-01-2014 01:14PM

At least one of them will do less time than the 79 year old protestor with Parkinsons is my prediction. They should be subjected to knee cappings for scaring a defenseless old man imo.

Banana Republic where the legal system is as corrupted as the other arms of the Oireacthas.

foggy_lad · 21-01-2014 01:37PM

The first and most important thing that is needed for those three is castration, this will put a stop to more evil scum being bred by them. But our "civilised" society where their evil crimes will go practically unpunished would never sanction that.

old hippy · 21-01-2014 01:37PM

Axel Lamp wrote: »

1st Scummer Joseph Lernihan's FB page is open. Boyracing scumbag too.

Are you advocating a bit of social network bullying?

ballsymchugh · 21-01-2014 01:39PM

old hippy wrote: »

Are you advocating a bit of social network bullying?

you're looking for something that's not there.

Tugboats · 21-01-2014 01:40PM

Odds on a suspended sentence?

old hippy · 21-01-2014 01:43PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

The first and most important thing that is needed for those three is castration, this will put a stop to more evil scum being bred by them. But our "civilised" society where their evil crimes will go practically unpunished would never sanction that.

And thank heavens for that. Luckily all the bloodthirsty torture porn addicts here are confined to their armchairs. Otherwise they'd be just as "evil" as those they decry.

ballsymchugh wrote: »

you're looking for something that's not there.

I'm not looking for anyone's facebook page, that's for sure.

ballsymchugh · 21-01-2014 01:47PM

old hippy wrote: »

And thank heavens for that. Luckily all the bloodthirsty torture porn addicts here are confined to their armchairs. Otherwise they'd be just as "evil" as those they decry.

I'm not looking for anyone's facebook page, that's for sure.

maybe not, but your post is subtly accusing someone of engaging in social network bullying.

have you any opinions on this case at all, or are you just going to go on your usual crusade against anyone who thinks that the law is too lenient on criminals like these 3?

Sciprio · 21-01-2014 01:51PM

I read that a while ago and it pissed me right off. Hopefully they get a proper sentence but i somehow doubt it.

old hippy · 21-01-2014 01:52PM

ballsymchugh wrote: »

maybe not, but your post is subtly accusing someone of engaging in social network bullying.

have you any opinions on this case at all, or are you just going to go on your usual crusade against anyone who thinks that the law is too lenient on criminals like these 3?

Oh for sure, the law is a joke - I'm not going to deny it. But I'm more interested in how these horrible situations come about. I've been subjected to some awful things myself. Another poster suggested that these things happened to me because I was asking for it. Which is bobbins, of course. I'm seriously interested in how people like the perps function (or dysfunction) and what drives them. And of course, the moral outrage that follows and the inevitable calls for murder, violent retribution, sexual assault and so on. I wonder what drives those depraved responses? I imagine it's a feeling of impotence, helplessness?

SEPT 23 1989 · 21-01-2014 01:53PM

old hippy wrote: »

And thank heavens for that. Luckily all the bloodthirsty torture porn addicts here are confined to their armchairs. Otherwise they'd be just as "evil" as those they decry.
.

what would you do with these little b@stards Hippy?

old hippy · 21-01-2014 01:55PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

what would you do with these little b@stards Hippy?

A longer sentence, with mandatory sessions with a psychiatrist.

WallyGUFC · 21-01-2014 02:00PM

old hippy wrote: »

A longer sentence, with mandatory sessions with a psychiatrist.

Funded by the State I suppose? Isn't it well for them.

old hippy · 21-01-2014 02:04PM

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Funded by the State I suppose? Isn't it well for them.

Indeed. It's investing in the future. Make them better, find the root cause for such behaviour, break the cycle. Instead of sending them out as hardened criminals, you have someone who feels their self worth and usefulness to the world.

Some of the posters here might benefit from a bit of therapy; anger issues management, that kind of thing.

P. Breathnach · 21-01-2014 02:09PM

old hippy wrote: »

...
Some of the posters here might benefit from a bit of therapy; anger issues management, that kind of thing.

They don't want it.

Remove their capacity for screaming abuse from the sidelines, and they have nothing left.

flutered · 21-01-2014 02:09PM

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Funded by the State I suppose? Isn't it well for them.

five years working in the community in exchange for their dole money, miss a days work, loose a days dole, miss five days loose five days dole,

osarusan · 21-01-2014 02:12PM

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Funded by the State I suppose? Isn't it well for them.

77,000 euros a year to keep a prisoner, if I remember correctly.

We should be trying plenty to keep people from needing to be sent back*, for the taxpayer's benefit as well as theirs.

*But they should be sent back if needed, for as long as needed.

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