WWE Royal Rumble 2014 Pre Show Thread use spoiler tags for surprise entrants

Jester252 · 15-01-2014 06:22PM

Alberto Del Rio

CSF wrote: »

Wyatts v Shield would do anything but damage either group. It is the natural direction for them both.

There were a number of other more suitable potential guys for Bryan.

How? Neither have stepped on the other toes. Having two heels feud is damaging. The crowd will cheer for one cause a forced face turn.

RobbingBandit · 15-01-2014 06:23PM

Surprise return: Sheamus, Jericho, RVD

Other, Undertaker as number 27, he will win the rumble, win the undisputed title at Wrestlemania and retire the next night on raw.

CSF · 15-01-2014 06:26PM

Roman Reigns

Jester252 wrote: »

How? Neither have stepped on the other toes. Having two heels feud is damaging. The crowd will cheer for one cause a forced face turn.

Neither are going to be heel forever. And who better to oppose for a natural turn than the other? The Shield is coming to its end anyway, so they would make the most sense to turn, allowing Ambrose and maybe Rollins to turn back at some stage leading to the breakup and a feud with Reigns.

Rjd2 · 15-01-2014 07:02PM

Roman Reigns

CSF wrote: »

Which was the point where they were scrapping that storyline having realised he was too big to not push properly. Which kinda fits in exactly with what we are saying.

Supposedly this was all over ESPN which was probably the straw that broke the camels back when it came to placing Bryan with Bray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0ttEbPycDs

Jester252 · 15-01-2014 07:29PM

Alberto Del Rio

CSF wrote: »

Neither are going to be heel forever. And who better to oppose for a natural turn than the other? The Shield is coming to its end anyway, so they would make the most sense to turn, allowing Ambrose and maybe Rollins to turn back at some stage leading to the breakup and a feud with Reigns.

Both will be starting as heels, leading to dull matches. The face turn will be forced.

DM_7 · 15-01-2014 09:19PM

I can't be the only one that thinks Bryan never turned heel. He acted bad for a week but that was down to Bray having a hold over him rather than him being actually going heel.

JP Liz V1 · 15-01-2014 09:32PM

Alberto Del Rio

DM-ICE wrote: »

I can't be the only one that thinks Bryan never turned heel. He acted bad for a week but that was down to Bray having a hold over him rather than him being actually going heel.

You are not

gnfnrhead · 16-01-2014 01:54AM

Brock Lesnar

Jester252 wrote: »

Bryan with Bray was the best thing to for Bryan
It makes Bryan look like a contender again. Instead of losing to Orton/Authority at every PPV.

I have to question the sanity of anyone who believes either of those statements.

How on earth does being a lackey for a few weeks to a dead in the water stable make him look like a contender? If they wanted to simply keep him away from Orton, go with Kane, or the Shield, or Triple H, or have the Authority bring in someone else to try and take him out. The past couple of months have been a massive waste of Bryan. All along he should have been fighting the Authority who continue to deny him another title match, leading to him having to get a title match another way. The Rumble.

The whole Wyatt story was to bring Bryan down while bringing them up. They failed to bring the Wyatt's up, but did manage to bring Bryan down a fair bit.

gnfnrhead · 16-01-2014 05:06AM

Brock Lesnar

Some of these names are announced on Smackdown, so you've been warned.

16 names so far:
Batista
Alberto Del Rio
Kofi Kingston
The Miz
Big E Langston
Goldust
Cody Rhodes
R-Truth
Xavier Woods
C.M. Punk
Fandango
Rey Mysterio
Wade Barrett
Seth Rollins
Roman Reigns
Dean Ambrose

I'd expect RVD, the Uso's, the Real Americans, the Outlaws, Damien Sandow, Tensai and Brodus Clay to join. That leaves only four spots. If Bryan is cleared, he'll have one of them along with at least two of the Wyatt's. Looks like potential for only one or two surprises.

16-01-2014 11:19AM

Alberto Del Rio

If Bryan is injured, they'll probably do the Cena 2008 and Edge 2010 spot where he'll miraculously come back late on and win it as an unannounced participant. Could be good if not a wee bit predictable.

Jester252 · 16-01-2014 03:53PM

Alberto Del Rio

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I have to question the sanity of anyone who believes either of those statements.

How on earth does being a lackey for a few weeks to a dead in the water stable make him look like a contender? If they wanted to simply keep him away from Orton, go with Kane, or the Shield, or Triple H, or have the Authority bring in someone else to try and take him out. The past couple of months have been a massive waste of Bryan. All along he should have been fighting the Authority who continue to deny him another title match, leading to him having to get a title match another way. The Rumble.

The whole Wyatt story was to bring Bryan down while bringing them up. They failed to bring the Wyatt's up, but did manage to bring Bryan down a fair bit.

I question the sanity of some one who thinks Bryan was brought down. Did you not see RAW? The reason he was with the Wyatts was to prevent him from becoming dull. If Bryan was fight the Authority, and losing month in month out, like you said, he would have became stale. He is more over after the Wyatt angle than before it.
After Hell in the Cell, and another PPV where Bryan loses to the Authority, both him and the story where becoming stale. It was SSDD. Nothing new. Bryan going with the Wyatts gave him a new, albeit similar story while freeing up Orton for the unification.
The similar thing thing happen to Austin in 1998. He when off his feud with McMahon and feuded with the Undertaker, after the Undertaker attacked him, before the 1999 Rumble.
Just replace Austin with Bryan, McMahon with HHH and Undertaker with Wyatt and you have the last few months. Even the characters are eerily similar.

Mokuba · 16-01-2014 04:28PM

Roman Reigns

Jester252 wrote: »

I question the sanity of some one who thinks Bryan was brought down. Did you not see RAW? The reason he was with the Wyatts was to prevent him from becoming dull. If Bryan was fight the Authority, and losing month in month out, like you said, he would have became stale. He is more over after the Wyatt angle than before it.
After Hell in the Cell, and another PPV where Bryan loses to the Authority, both him and the story where becoming stale. It was SSDD. Nothing new. Bryan going with the Wyatts gave him a new, albeit similar story while freeing up Orton for the unification.
The similar thing thing happen to Austin in 1998. He when off his feud with McMahon and feuded with the Undertaker, after the Undertaker attacked him, before the 1999 Rumble.
Just replace Austin with Bryan, McMahon with HHH and Undertaker with Wyatt and you have the last few months. Even the characters are eerily similar.

Riiiight. Because Bryan being booked to fail hasn't been a running theme in his WWE run...

Just like how WWE knew that Sheamus squashing him in seconds would get him super over. All part of their master plan to make Daniel Bryan a star :rolleyes:

His popularity has literally nothing to do with creative. It is completely organic. This proves it even more. The reactions, the bond with the fans, the pops, the adoration that nobody has gotten since SCSA - how can you not see that all of it is in spite of everything that has happened in his WWE run, not because of it?

Do you honestly think that Daniel Bryan was turned heel to turn back again 2 weeks later? Really? Do you honestly think that the angle wasn't supposed to run until AT LEAST Royal Rumble? This was not a creative masterstroke.

Creative decided they messed up. Pretty obvious. When his name is all over ESPN. Pretty obvious. When the segment is bombing at house shows. Pretty obvious.

Jester252 · 16-01-2014 07:35PM

Alberto Del Rio

Mokuba wrote: »

Riiiight. Because Bryan being booked to fail hasn't been a running theme in his WWE run...

Just like how WWE knew that Sheamus squashing him in seconds would get him super over. All part of their master plan to make Daniel Bryan a star :rolleyes:

His popularity has literally nothing to do with creative. It is completely organic. This proves it even more. The reactions, the bond with the fans, the pops, the adoration that nobody has gotten since SCSA - how can you not see that all of it is in spite of everything that has happened in his WWE run, not because of it?

Do you honestly think that Daniel Bryan was turned heel to turn back again 2 weeks later? Really? Do you honestly think that the angle wasn't supposed to run until AT LEAST Royal Rumble? This was not a creative masterstroke.

Creative decided they messed up. Pretty obvious. When his name is all over ESPN. Pretty obvious. When the segment is bombing at house shows. Pretty obvious.

Bryan never turned heel. Bryan is talented all round. However Bryan wouldn't have got over without creative. He's booked as an underdog. Who books Bryan as a underdog? Who had him tag with Kane? Who gave them the title and the scripted comedy sections afterward? Who had him go over Cena clean? Who had him feud with HHH and Steph?

If it wasn't for creative pushing Bryan. He would be like Dolph and Sandow, only people online would care.

D.Q · 16-01-2014 08:21PM

The reason Bryan got over in the first place was because of the RAW after WM. WWE went out to embarrass him without even giving him a proper match at WM.

Thankfully the crowd at that RAW was smart and vocal. WWE persist in putting him in ridiculous situations, I'm not saying they are trying to derail his push, but through their own incompetence they have come very close a few times. Thankfully the guy is very easy to root for, and is phenomenal in the ring.

Over the last year and a half they have stumbled their way on to something big with him,but they still seem afraid to pull the trigger on the guy.

It just leads me to believe, as I have done for some time, that WWE cant book babyfaces.

rovert · 16-01-2014 08:32PM

D.Q wrote: »

The reason Bryan got over in the first place was because of the RAW after WM. WWE went out to embarrass him without even giving him a proper match at WM.

Embarrass him?

That was the right finish for how the match was built up.

DM_7 · 16-01-2014 08:40PM

He is a two time WWE champion. They don't make people WWE champ unless they believe in them.

I do think the level they believe is lower than many want but this idea they want to pull him back now doesn't stand up at all. He is regularly main eventing, rarely loses a match without a screwy end, while in the Wyatt feud they kept going back to his feud with Orton facing him on Smackdown and Raw, also getting into a few clashes with HBK.

D.Q · 17-01-2014 04:04AM

rovert wrote: »

Embarrass him?

That was the right finish for how the match was built up.

I don't agree there. Maybe to a point, but it was taken to the absolute extreme. I get that the cowardly heel has to get his comeuppance, but they could have killed him there and then with that.

gnfnrhead · 17-01-2014 10:10AM

Brock Lesnar

Daniel Bryan has gotten over because of Daniel Bryan. Not WWE's creative team. WWE have given him shit but he has somehow made it work each and every time. He is over in spite of WWE's booking of him.

Lithium93_ · 21-01-2014 01:35PM

HHH

More details have been released for the Royal Rumble

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_75808.shtml#.Ut5pKNJFBpg

Daniel Bryan vs. Bray Wyatt

C.M. Punk will have the undesirable #1 spot in the Royal Rumble match.
(There goes Punk chances of winning the Rumble)

Luke Harper, Erick Rowan, Damien Sandow, Jey Uso, and Jimmy Uso were officially added to the Rumble match. Also, WWE removed Wade Barrett from the match on their website. Graphically, WWE advertised Ryback, the Real Americans, and Prime Time Players for the Rumble.

Prior to Raw, WWE announced a Tag Title match on the Rumble pre-show.

The match will be Rhodes Bros. vs. New Age Outlaws for the Tag Titles, which follows the Outlaws scoring a non-title win on Friday's Smackdown.

Also announced for the pre-show is an All-Star Panel of Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair, and "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan.

Professional Griefer · 21-01-2014 01:59PM

Alberto Del Rio

My money is on Kane/HHH knocking Punk out late enough with a Bryan win. :cool:

Chip Whitley · 21-01-2014 02:35PM

Bray Wyatt

Is the pre-show on Sky Sports or is it part of the Box Office gimmick?

beakerjoe · 21-01-2014 03:13PM

Alberto Del Rio

The Incredible Hulk wrote: »

Is the pre-show on Sky Sports or is it part of the Box Office gimmick?

The last few were on Youtube via WWE.COM

Mokuba · 21-01-2014 03:57PM

Roman Reigns

Is Bryan even gonna be in this? He didn't really indicate he would and I wonder if they'll give him 2 matches on the same night so fresh off an injury worry.

Given the Orton/Batista segment last night, I would be beyond amazed if Batista didn't win it.

Loughc · 21-01-2014 06:44PM

HHH

Bryan's not in the rumble match.

beakerjoe · 21-01-2014 06:48PM

Alberto Del Rio

Loughc wrote: »

Bryan's not in the rumble match.

Nothing is confirmed yet

Loughc · 21-01-2014 07:08PM

HHH

beakerjoe wrote: »

Nothing is confirmed yet

They're prob keeping him out of it as to keep the focus on Batista. If Bryan is in it he'll steal the crowds attention and imagine the heat of he doesn't win. I'm very certain Bryan as stupid as this sounds won't be in the rumble match.

CSF · 21-01-2014 10:07PM

Roman Reigns

Loughc wrote: »

They're prob keeping him out of it as to keep the focus on Batista. If Bryan is in it he'll steal the crowds attention and imagine the heat of he doesn't win. I'm very certain Bryan as stupid as this sounds won't be in the rumble match.

Is there any focus on Batista though? Nobody really seemed that excited by him. His short promo was terrible too.

Loughc · 21-01-2014 10:40PM

HHH

CSF wrote: »

Is there any focus on Batista though? Nobody really seemed that excited by him. His short promo was terrible too.

There's plenty of focus by the WWE not by fans tho, but the WWE aren't going to give us what we want tho.

CSF · 21-01-2014 10:45PM

Roman Reigns

Loughc wrote: »

There's plenty of focus by the WWE not by fans tho, but the WWE aren't going to give us what we want tho.

They didn't exactly give him anything too compelling in the leadup to it. His involvement in proceedings tonight was minimal.

JP Liz V1 · 21-01-2014 10:47PM

Alberto Del Rio

If Daniel Bryan isn't in the rumble match itself then CM Punk is winning hopefully

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