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cian68 · 13-01-2014 08:48PM

Alberto Del Rio

CSF wrote: »

That is what MITB is for and what King of the Ring would have been for, this is about getting someone who will sell serious amounts of PPVs.

Is Batista that guy? I'm not sure why he seems to be a favourite to win.

JP Liz V1 · 13-01-2014 09:47PM

Alberto Del Rio

Palo Alto wrote: »

Batista to win the rumble, Brock to win title at Elimination Chamber. Batista v Brock for the strap at Mania. I really don't want this to happen but think it might.

Batista Vs. Lesnar would be a good but not for the title please

CSF · 13-01-2014 11:46PM

Roman Reigns

cian68 wrote: »

Is Batista that guy? I'm not sure why he seems to be a favourite to win.

In my opinion, no. But it ain't my opinion that counts unfortunately or we'd be looking at a triple threat main event of Bryan, Orton and Lesnar

Mokuba · 14-01-2014 12:08PM

Roman Reigns

After Michigan and last night, they might actually put Bryan in one of the main event programmes.

They'll have to shuffle around a lot of their pre-existing plans. But then again they changed the Daniel Bryan plans pretty quickly, but at the same time, it was hard not to with Michigan.

beakerjoe · 14-01-2014 12:11PM

Alberto Del Rio

The fact that Bryan opened and Ended the show again is a great sign. Still my pick for the rumble

JP Liz V1 · 15-01-2014 12:14AM

Alberto Del Rio

Daniel Bryan winning the rumble is best for business

Lord TSC · 15-01-2014 12:40AM

someone from the title match: Cena or Orton

Place will rock if Bryan wins.

Jester252 · 15-01-2014 12:48AM

Alberto Del Rio

I'll say Bryan will win the rumble and go on to overcome the Authority at Wrestlemania a la SCSA. If that the case the Wyatt angle makes sense. Stick him with some new guys so people don't get sick of Bryan vs. Authority, give the new guys a rub, have him pick up a small victory to tide the fans over and make him a believable contender for the title.

gnfnrhead · 15-01-2014 01:09AM

Brock Lesnar

Jester252 wrote: »

I'll say Bryan will win the rumble and go on to overcome the Authority at Wrestlemania a la SCSA. If that the case the Wyatt angle makes sense. Stick him with some new guys so people don't get sick of Bryan vs. Authority, give the new guys a rub, have him pick up a small victory to tide the fans over and make him a believable contender for the title. midcarder again

Thats more like it. Bryan was the hottest thing in wrestling but WWE didnt decide he should be so they lumped him with a failure stable in the hope of people getting behind Big Show or Cena instead.

Jester252 · 15-01-2014 01:16AM

Alberto Del Rio

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Thats more like it. Bryan was the hottest thing in wrestling but WWE didnt decide he should be so they lumped him with a failure stable in the hope of people getting behind Big Show or Cena instead.

or maybe they didn't what another month of Orton vs. Bryan with a screwy ending. Having Bryan with the Wyatt, has done more damage to Cena, Orton and HHH than Bryan.

Loughc · 15-01-2014 01:35AM

HHH

Let's just see how it goes!

CSF · 15-01-2014 05:09PM

Roman Reigns

Jester252 wrote: »

or maybe they didn't what another month of Orton vs. Bryan with a screwy ending. Having Bryan with the Wyatt, has done more damage to Cena, Orton and HHH than Bryan.

There is no way the WWE saw things going that way. Otherwise they'd have been backing Bryan all the way

Moneymaker · 15-01-2014 05:17PM

Roman Reigns

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Thats more like it. Bryan was the hottest thing in wrestling but WWE didnt decide he should be so they lumped him with a failure stable in the hope of people getting behind Big Show or Cena instead.

In fairness DB was still opening and closing every show, main evening non stop.

Like I said they were trying to get the Wyatts some heel heat, it hasn't worked so they've dropped it a few weeks early.

They are green as hell but they've invested a lot of money in them.

Jester252 · 15-01-2014 05:18PM

Alberto Del Rio

CSF wrote: »

There is no way the WWE saw things going that way. Otherwise they'd have been backing Bryan all the way

Right and having Bryan be the opening and closing their flagship program after a major business announcement is not backing him.

CSF · 15-01-2014 05:51PM

Roman Reigns

Jester252 wrote: »

Right and having Bryan be the opening and closing their flagship program after a major business announcement is not backing him.

Which was the point where they were scrapping that storyline having realised he was too big to not push properly. Which kinda fits in exactly with what we are saying.

beakerjoe · 15-01-2014 05:54PM

Alberto Del Rio

I tend to agree with Jester myself but we never know. Maybe the Wyatt feud was given to Bryan to he could give a rub to the Wyatts (Bray esp) and give D-Bry something to do so that the authority angle doesnt get stale. The might be holding off on pushing Bryan to the moon at Wrestlemania XXX. If he wins the rumble, he will be in The Authorities crosshairs again as they dont want him as champion

Moneymaker · 15-01-2014 05:59PM

Roman Reigns

If he can't make the Rumble he can always win the EC match.

CSF · 15-01-2014 06:00PM

Roman Reigns

I can't see what purpose it serves though to have the most popular face turn heel, only for 2 weeks later to turn back face with nothing other than tag matches with the Usos in between.

I agree that the original intention was to push the Wyatts but that has surely been scrapped. The 2 week turn makes no real sense like. Bryan as a Wyatt was not developed as a storyline at all. Can't see it having been anything other than Vince/creative having a swift change of heart.

CSF · 15-01-2014 06:02PM

Roman Reigns

Moneymaker wrote: »

If he can't make the Rumble he can always win the EC match.

Can't see anything other than Bryan entering the Rumble. We won't see him before then though, which is a pity.

Jester252 · 15-01-2014 06:03PM

Alberto Del Rio

CSF wrote: »

Which was the point where they were scrapping that storyline having realised he was too big to not push properly. Which kinda fits in exactly with what we are saying.

So would you rather keep watch Orton vs. Bryan in PPV with screwy ending or have Bryan pick up a small victory that plays to different roles?
Bryan with Bray was the best thing to for Bryan
It makes Bryan look like a contender again. Instead of losing to Orton/Authority at every PPV.
It give the new guys a rub.
It even get smarks excited because Bryan is moving on from Bray Wyatt and the gang.
It also prevents the audience from being burned out on Bryan.

How did you know that they are even scrapping the story? It could have came to its naturally conclusion or still be on going.

cian68 · 15-01-2014 06:06PM

Alberto Del Rio

It killed a couple of weeks. It made the fans desperate to see daniel bryan. He couldn't exactly feud with 29 rumble participants all month. It didn't really ever turn him heel since the fans were always rooting for him to turn back which was intended. I'm not saying wwe always planned on having him leave the quarts this week or they knew exactly how big it would be but this wasn't far off the plan imo.

beakerjoe · 15-01-2014 06:06PM

Alberto Del Rio

Jester252 wrote: »

So would you rather keep watch Orton vs. Bryan in PPV with screwy ending or have Bryan pick up a small victory that plays to different roles?
Bryan with Bray was the best thing to for Bryan
It makes Bryan look like a contender again. Instead of losing to Orton/Authority at every PPV.
It give the new guys a rub.
It even get smarks excited because Bryan is moving on from Bray Wyatt and the gang.
It also prevents the audience from being burned out on Bryan.

How did you know that they are even scrapping the story? It could have came to its naturally conclusion or still be on going.

Id say the WWE paniced taht Bryan was loosing popularity with the dull Old School Raw crowd not caring too much with the angle, so they pulled the trigger on it. Seems that way at least

Jester252 · 15-01-2014 06:09PM

Alberto Del Rio

beakerjoe wrote: »

Id say the WWE paniced taht Bryan was loosing popularity with the dull Old School Raw crowd not caring too much with the angle, so they pulled the trigger on it. Seems that way at least

If that is the case most story angles would have been pulled because that crowd was terrible.
People shouldn't be so quick to underestimate the company that made stars like Hulk, Macho Man, Shawn, Bret, Austin, Rock, Cena etc.

CSF · 15-01-2014 06:10PM

Roman Reigns

Jester252 wrote: »

So would you rather keep watch Orton vs. Bryan in PPV with screwy ending or have Bryan pick up a small victory that plays to different roles?
Bryan with Bray was the best thing to for Bryan
It makes Bryan look like a contender again. Instead of losing to Orton/Authority at every PPV.
It give the new guys a rub.
It even get smarks excited because Bryan is moving on from Bray Wyatt and the gang.
It also prevents the audience from being burned out on Bryan.

How did you know that they are even scrapping the story? It could have came to its naturally conclusion or still be on going.

There are plenty more upper card stars than Orton though. To answer your question though, no I didn't want to see Bryan against Orton every month until Wrestlemania.

If the WWE want to give the Wyatts a push, then the Shield are the only suitable people for the job.

Moneymaker · 15-01-2014 06:10PM

Roman Reigns

beakerjoe wrote: »

Id say the WWE paniced taht Bryan was loosing popularity with the dull Old School Raw crowd not caring too much with the angle, so they pulled the trigger on it. Seems that way at least

In fairness that crowd was ****e all night long.

CSF · 15-01-2014 06:11PM

Roman Reigns

Moneymaker wrote: »

In fairness that crowd was ****e all night long.

****e crowds still usually lap up Bryan though. The man is gold.

Moneymaker · 15-01-2014 06:14PM

Roman Reigns

CSF wrote: »

****e crowds still usually lap up Bryan though. The man is gold.

Sure, biggest reason they dropped the angle imo is because of the lack of crowd reaction. The crowd were not reacting to the Wyatts at all. If they wanted to depush Bryan he'd still be with them.

They tried something out, it didn't work, and they moved on from it. What's the problem?

CSF · 15-01-2014 06:15PM

Roman Reigns

Moneymaker wrote: »

Sure, biggest reason they dropped the angle imo is because of the lack of crowd reaction. The crowd were not reacting to the Wyatts at all. If they wanted to depush Bryan he'd still be with them.

They tried something out, it didn't work, and they moved on from it. What's the problem?

I didn't say it was a problem. It was the best course of action. I was disputing the fact that the above actually was the case.

Jester252 · 15-01-2014 06:17PM

Alberto Del Rio

CSF wrote: »

There are plenty more upper card stars than Orton though. To answer your question though, no I didn't want to see Bryan against Orton every month until Wrestlemania.

If the WWE want to give the Wyatts a push, then the Shield are the only suitable people for the job.

Bryan was feuding against it was the Authority for the title. Orton was just their man in the ring. In order for them to change the guy. They will have to have Orton lose to the new guy. Hot potatoing the title around just damages it.

So instead of have a face vs. a heel group have a heel group vs. a heel group. That would have just damaged one of the groups.

CSF · 15-01-2014 06:20PM

Roman Reigns

Jester252 wrote: »

Bryan was feuding against it was the Authority for the title. Orton was just their man in the ring. In order for them to change the guy. They will have to have Orton lose to the new guy. Hot potatoing the title around just damages it.

So instead of have a face vs. a heel group have a heel group vs. a heel group. That would have just damaged one of the groups.

Wyatts v Shield would do anything but damage either group. It is the natural direction for them both.

There were a number of other more suitable potential guys for Bryan.

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