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The Boggers Log

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Don't go trolling flanna01 when Pascal stops Bute on saturday ;). I love that thread!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    You seem to be back on track now.
    We might end up running together in Seville?
    I'm probably going to go for sub 3:10.


    Thanks.

    Getting back into it now and starting to enjoy it and feeling strong.

    Need to work on the pace but if I can keep it together for the next few weeks I'll definitely give the sub 3.10 a good lash.

    I'd love to have company in Seville, reading you blog I'd say I'm a bit off you at the moment but if you're up for it we could start together.

    You might want to check with AMK though, I did a LR with him last weekend and I'd say his ears were bleeding after listening to over two hours of my ****e :)

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Don't go trolling flanna01 when Pascal stops Bute on saturday ;). I love that thread!!!

    Ha Ha Meno.

    So do I. I've missed it lately, as it's gone kinda quite, no doubt it'll rev up in the next few days.

    I thought I recognised your username from there.

    That lad is mad as a box of badgers with TB but the thread is class.

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Ha Ha Meno.

    So do I. I've missed it lately, as it's gone kinda quite, no doubt it'll rev up in the next few days.

    I thought I recognised your username from there.

    That lad is mad as a box of badgers with TB but the thread is class.

    TbL

    NO, the lad is a genius!! I have my pension, mortgage and Christmas bonus on the 'Christmas cracker'. My life depends on it!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Reading Stazza's log got me thinking (more) about losing some extra weight I'm carrying.

    Came across the article below, interesting end chart, that, if correct, I've Olympic potential :)

    TbL


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    Ideal Weight for Running
    WHAT'S YOUR IDEAL WEIGHT?
    Dropping five pounds will make you healthier and faster--as long as you have them to lose
    By Amby Burfoot

    PUBLISHED 05/18/2007
    Some runners don't worry much about their weight. they think: I run, therefore I can eat a cow for dinner. However, these same runners will gain 3.3 pounds per decade, according to a recent analysis of 4,700 midlife male runners from the National Runners' Health Study. That's not a lot, but it does add up, and the gain strikes even those running more than 40 miles a week. The same runners also gained three-quarters of an inch around the waist every decade--goodbye six-pack abs!
    I've always monitored my body weight closely, believing I have an American birthright to obsess over it, just like Oprah, Jared, and millions of others. I also figure there are two solid reasons to get on the scale every Saturday morning: I want to find and maintain my healthiest weight, and I also want to determine my fastest weight. I suspect I'm not the only runner who's interested in these two.
    Twenty years ago, when reading some early studies on body mass index (BMI) and longevity, I cringed. People of my BMI--I'm relatively tall and skinny, with a BMI around 21.0--were dying younger than others a little heavier than I. (You can quickly determine your own BMI using the tool in the Nutrition & Weight Loss channel on runnersworld.com.)
    On a recent visit to California, I visited Bill Haskell, Ph.D., to ask him about the weight and longevity question. He's the director of Stanford University's Prevention Research Center and a guy who's been at the epicenter of important health-fitness debates for 30 years. "Those first studies failed to eliminate some people who were thin because they smoked cigarettes or were already diseased," Haskell told me. "The newer studies show no increase in mortality until BMI falls into the mid-eighteens."
    The National Institutes of Health gives us four marks on the BMI ladder. It puts the underweight/unhealthy BMI cutoff at 18.5, which indicates malnourishment. If your BMI is 18.5 to 24.9, you're in the normal/healthy weight range. From 25.0 to 29.9, you're overweight, and your health risks (such as diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease) start climbing. Anyone above a 30.0 BMI gets labeled obese and faces dramatically higher health risks. Approximately 60 percent of all Americans are overweight or obese, and this percentage is increasing.
    Fat and Fit?
    While it seems certain that higher body weights are unhealthy, fitness counts, too. Steven Blair, P.E.D., who often describes himself as "short, fat, and bald," is the most famous expert in the BMI, exercise, and health field. He and his former colleagues at the Cooper Aerobics Center have collected the world's most impeccable fitness data; they've actually tested thousands of subjects on a treadmill. Most other large studies are based on questionnaires that ask: "How much do you exercise during a typical week?" And you just know a lot of people are wildly optimistic (lying) when they answer that question.
    The Cooper Center studies show that aerobic fitness is a powerful predictor of longevity. Indeed it's often better to be fat but fit rather than lean and out-of-shape. Fitness can trump fatness. As a result, Blair, a lifelong runner now at the University of South Carolina, believes we focus too much on weight, which demonizes and demoralizes fat people. "I'd like to banish the whole idea of ideal weight," he says. "We simply don't have enough data to say what's right for any individual or group. We should focus more on telling people they can get healthier by becoming more active, no matter what their starting weight."
    That's a great message, and one we should all take to our nonexercising, overweight friends. They need every bit of motivation they can get. Still, we should also remember that weight loss is almost always good. Because lean and fit will always trump fat and fit.
    Fast Losers
    Of course, some runners are more interested in fastness than fitness. They want to know: What's my best weight for fast 5-Ks and marathons? Will losing weight help? The answer is almost always yes. But, as with BMI, only to a point. Lose too much weight, and you become weaker and slower, not stronger and faster. Many parents and high school and college coaches worry about anorexia nervosa, a psychiatric disease found mostly among adolescent and college-age female runners, dancers, gymnasts, and skaters. The most recent studies show that anorexia affects about .6 percent of the overall population, but four to six times as many young athletes. Since some anorexics actually starve themselves to death, concern is justified.
    Still, there's no denying that healthy runners will race about two seconds per mile faster for every pound they lose. Weight loss boosts maximal aerobic capacity (VO2 max), an essential contributor to distance-running potential, because the less weight you carry around, the more miles per gallon you get from your oxygen. And because losing a few pounds makes running easier, you should be able to increase your workout distance and speed. So losing weight helps you train harder.
    Recently, a University of Dayton (Ohio) runner and physiologist named Paul Vanderburgh, Ed.D., has focused more academic attention on the subject. A couple of years ago, Vanderburgh, who recently ran a 3:31 marathon at 170 pounds, decided to devise a calculator that would "equalize" performances among runners of different weights. When he had finished his research, Vanderburgh validated his calculator at several Ohio road races, where it performed well. He published his study in the Journal of Exercise Physiology and put his calculator, which he calls the "Flyer Handicap Calculator," on the Internet. You can get there from snipurl.com/agesexweightcalc. Since the calculator also includes age and gender factors, it can be used to compare, say, a 25-year-old woman who weighs 120 pounds with her 55-year-old father who weighs 165. Fun stuff.
    "I hope the Flyer Handicap Calculator will level the playing field a little, and give more motivation to heavier runners," Vanderburgh says. For those who simply want to lose weight to get faster, he has this advice: Lose fat, not muscle. Fortunately for runners, many studies have shown that exercise-based weight-loss programs help you achieve this goal much better than diet-only plans. "If you're not already doing some strength training, you might want to begin, since strength training is a great way to retain muscle," says Vanderburgh.
    I've never had much luck with strength training, but maybe it's time to try again. I've lost about five pounds this year, on top of 10 the previous several years, by eating less pasta and rice and more fruit, vegetables, and fiber, and drinking water instead of fruit juice. I'm still heavier than my college weight, but I've narrowed the gap to seven or eight pounds. Result: My BMI is still above 18.5, my race times are dropping, and best of all, I feel great.
    Lose Weight, Gain Speed
    This table, based on changes in maximal aerobic capacity, provides a rough estimate of how much your race times will improve if you lose weight, as long as you have it to lose. If your BMI drops below 18.5, you're at risk of becoming weaker and slower.
    WEIGHT LOST 5K 10K HALF-MARATHON MARATHON
    2 lbs 12.4 secs 25 secs 52 secs 1:45
    5 lbs 31 secs 1:02 2:11 4:22
    10 lbs 1:02 2:04 4:22 8:44
    20 lbs 2:04 4:08 8:44 17:28

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Program called for 40-50 mins ER.

    Shin did a bit of moaning and groaning tonight so pulled the plug after a slow 36 odd mins. Did some foam rolling and some old man stretches.

    Getting a massage tomorrow

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Program called for 40-50 mins ER.

    Shin did a bit of moaning and groaning tonight so pulled the plug after a slow 36 odd mins. Did some foam rolling and some old man stretches.

    Getting a massage tomorrow

    TbL

    Good move on the massage and pulling the plug. You need to keep an eye on your legs. If it's the same thing that's giving you problems ask the therapist's opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Stazza wrote: »
    Good move on the massage and pulling the plug. You need to keep an eye on your legs. If it's the same thing that's giving you problems ask the therapist's opinion.



    Thanks, I'll do that.

    Might be just a little tight after yesterdays session, but am scared ****less that it'll come back and knock me out for a couple of weeks again!

    Ice, heat and stick rolling it half the evening.

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Program called for 40-50 mins ER.

    Shin did a bit of moaning and groaning tonight so pulled the plug after a slow 36 odd mins. Did some foam rolling and some old man stretches.

    Getting a massage tomorrow

    TbL

    Inside or outside of shin? What's the mtj of gastroc. and soleus (the bottom of the calf) like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    It's the outside of the shin. A couple of weeks ago when I started doing faster stuff with reasonable mileage a small localised ache in the tibia anterior spread from the ankle to half way up my leg and became rock solid and rigid. The soleus was very sore as well. Excercises for the shin, lots of massage and rest seemed to shift it.

    The calf is a little tight tonight but I think I've rolled a fair amount of the tightness out.

    The exact same thing happened me a couple of years ago when I was multi marathoning but it never came back till a couple of weeks ago.

    It's nowhere near as bad as it was a couple of weeks ago, and I can point my foot back and upwards without pain (couldn't do this pain free before).

    I might just be over sensitive to it as its just stiff now rather than sore.

    Tnx,

    TBL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    It's the outside of the shin. A couple of weeks ago when I started doing faster stuff with reasonable mileage a small localised ache in the tibia anterior spread from the ankle to half way up my leg and became rock solid and rigid. The soleus was very sore as well. Excercises for the shin, lots of massage and rest seemed to shift it.

    The calf is a little tight tonight but I think I've rolled a fair amount of the tightness out.

    The exact same thing happened me a couple of years ago when I was multi marathoning but it never came back till a couple of weeks ago.

    It's nowhere near as bad as it was a couple of weeks ago, and I can point my foot back and upwards without pain (couldn't do this pain free before).

    I might just be over sensitive to it as its just stiff now rather than sore.

    Tnx,

    TBL


    *this is not a medical opinion and I am in no way qualified to offer same

    I was feeling the Same type of discomfort during the summer and ended up missing 3 weeks due to something called Peraneous longus brevis tendinitis.

    Might be worth a physio visit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    It's the outside of the shin. A couple of weeks ago when I started doing faster stuff with reasonable mileage a small localised ache in the tibia anterior spread from the ankle to half way up my leg and became rock solid and rigid. The soleus was very sore as well. Excercises for the shin, lots of massage and rest seemed to shift it.

    The calf is a little tight tonight but I think I've rolled a fair amount of the tightness out.

    The exact same thing happened me a couple of years ago when I was multi marathoning but it never came back till a couple of weeks ago.

    It's nowhere near as bad as it was a couple of weeks ago, and I can point my foot back and upwards without pain (couldn't do this pain free before).

    I might just be over sensitive to it as its just stiff now rather than sore.

    Tnx,

    TBL
    Ask the therapist to see if there are any active TP's in in the tibialis Ant. Also ask them to check out the retinaculum that holds the toe tendons in place. And ask the therapist if they'd be kind enough to look at the tendon of the big toe as it tracks alongside the Tib Ant. This is not med advice merely some suggestions to ask the therapist. See if the therapist is conversant with positional release, if they are, ask if it might be an option to release the dorsiflexors etc. Ask the therapist if they are going to strip your gastroc and soleus. Don't ask me how many times I asked you to ask the therapist something.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Thanks a mil, really appreciate it, that's fantastic.

    I will however need to write her a note to communicate all that properly :)

    And don't ask me what happened the last time I asked her to strip me and look at my gastroc :)

    Man, the stuff that people are willing to share and help others on here is unbelievable.

    Tnx,

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Program called for 15-30 min wu and cd, followed by 8-10, 800m reps with a recovery time between each rep the same length of time it took to run the 800 (hope this makes sense)

    Did 3.5 slow miles wu followed. Hit the track for one or two strides. I must be entertaining as I heard a couple of young wans who were hanging around the track laughing and saying, "look at charging hippo."

    Little did they know that they were complimenting me because I've upgraded from a plodding hippo to a charging one this week :)

    800 reps:

    1. 3.06
    2. 3.01
    3. 2.59
    4. 3.05
    5. 3.03
    6. 3.04
    7. 3.06
    8. 3.03
    9. 3.06
    10. 3.04

    Felt ok apart from the last one that I tried to do sub 3.

    1.1 mile cool down

    Feels like progress is being made.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    super session, pretty consistent reps.

    how was the shin?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Duanington


    Program called for 15-30 min wu and cd, followed by 8-10, 800m reps with a recovery time between each rep the same length of time it took to run the 800 (hope this makes sense)

    Did 3.5 slow miles wu followed. Hit the track for one or two strides. I must be entertaining as I heard a couple of young wans who were hanging around the track laughing and saying, "look at charging hippo."

    Little did they know that they were complimenting me because I've upgraded from a plodding hippo to a charging one this week :)

    800 reps:

    1. 3.06
    2. 3.01
    3. 2.59
    4. 3.05
    5. 3.03
    6. 3.04
    7. 3.06
    8. 3.03
    9. 3.06
    10. 3.04

    Felt ok apart from the last one that I tried to do sub 3.

    1.1 mile cool down

    Feels like progress is being made.

    TbL

    That's a great session right there !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Program called for 15-30 min wu and cd, followed by 8-10, 800m reps with a recovery time between each rep the same length of time it took to run the 800 (hope this makes sense)

    Did 3.5 slow miles wu followed. Hit the track for one or two strides. I must be entertaining as I heard a couple of young wans who were hanging around the track laughing and saying, "look at charging hippo."

    Little did they know that they were complimenting me because I've upgraded from a plodding hippo to a charging one this week :)

    800 reps:

    1. 3.06
    2. 3.01
    3. 2.59
    4. 3.05
    5. 3.03
    6. 3.04
    7. 3.06
    8. 3.03
    9. 3.06
    10. 3.04

    Felt ok apart from the last one that I tried to do sub 3.

    1.1 mile cool down

    Feels like progress is being made.

    TbL

    The old Yasso 800s.
    Looks like you're good to go for a 3:05 Marathon!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    super session, pretty consistent reps.

    how was the shin?

    Tnx AMK,

    Shin held up very well.

    Went to get a massage shortly after and handed her the Stazza note :)

    No symptoms of the shin injury reoccurring but my tibia post. was tight, but she worked hard on getting it out, so happy days.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    menoscemo wrote: »
    The old Yasso 800s.
    Looks like you're good to go for a 3:05 Marathon!!


    Thanks Meno,

    I'd drink a pint of liquidised fugal toenails for a 3.05 in Seville :) but it's not gonna happen on this training cycle.

    McMillan says that in his experience that you need to add 5 mins to the Yassos to get a better idea of your marathon time.

    TBH if I hit 3.10 in Seville I'd be very happy and then try and push on from there.

    TbL


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭pa4


    Some good consistent training there, keep it up :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    I'm arriving back into Dublin around midnight on Saturday and my missus has just told me that I'm on duty all day/night Sunday, so I'm considering doing my long run when I get back. After last weeks great feedback, I thought I'd ask if anyone knew a well lit route that I could do 20 miles near the airport.

    Tnx again.

    TbL


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Duanington


    I'm arriving back into Dublin around midnight on Saturday and my missus has just told me that I'm on duty all day/night Sunday, so I'm considering doing my long run when I get back. After last weeks great feedback, I thought I'd ask if anyone knew a well lit route that I could do 20 miles near the airport.

    Tnx again.

    TbL

    will you be running from one of the long term carparks TBL?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Duanington wrote: »
    will you be running from one of the long term carparks TBL?

    Parked in short term, can't afford to leave the car in there for too long!

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    you can always see if any of the gyms around the area are payable by the hour/session and drop in for a couple of hours?? Boring, but I don't may be the safest option.

    Other alternative is to run down past the long term carpark, past Dardistown Cemertry (a dead nice place that) into Santry and onwards to city center - its a fairly well lit path most the way I think - and fairly straight so a bogger wouldn't get lost...........but then again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Duanington


    you can always see if any of the gyms around the area are payable by the hour/session and drop in for a couple of hours?? Boring, but I don't may be the safest option.

    Other alternative is to run down past the long term carpark, past Dardistown Cemertry (a dead nice place that) into Santry and onwards to city center - its a fairly well lit path most the way I think - and fairly straight so a bogger wouldn't get lost...........but then again.
    Alsaa let you pay into the gym, not sure what time they open until.

    I'd park up and run down into Santry and back up, you might have to do it a couple of times to make up the 20 miles though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Friday: Rest Day

    Saturday: had to juggle my plans around again. Plan called for 50-60 mins ER.

    Did 10.2 miles @ 8.40 pace.

    Sunday: plan called for 22-24 miles LR.

    Bit of a head wrecker, this session, didn't get out till almost midnight.

    Did 22 miles average pace @ 8.21.

    Took no fluids or gels.

    Need to catch up on some sleep as less than 3-4 hours sleep for the last few nights.

    Total weekly mileage 69.21

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Midnight! 22 miles in small wee hours - way to get it done. Kudos.


  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Cleanman


    Sunday: plan called for 22-24 miles LR.

    Bit of a head wrecker, this session, didn't get out till almost midnight.

    Did 22 miles average pace @ 8.21.

    TbL

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Straight from the ecoli school of running. #commitment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Cleanman wrote: »
    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Straight from the ecoli school of running. #commitment

    It was a bit of a disaster to be honest, put new batteries in the head torch and drove to my local spot to do the run, head torch died the minute I turned it on.

    I was very close to pulling the plug (but I was all lubed up!) as I had to drive 40 mins to run under street lights, do the 22 miles and drive home again.

    The misses wasn't happy been woken in the small hours of the morning.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Fair play - that's sheer madness commitment right there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Cleanman


    It was a bit of a disaster to be honest, put new batteries in the head torch and drove to my local spot to do the run, head torch died the minute I turned it on.

    I was very close to pulling the plug (but I was all lubed up!) as I had to drive 40 mins to run under street lights, do the 22 miles and drive home again.

    The misses wasn't happy been woken in the small hours of the morning.

    TbL

    no comment:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Cleanman wrote: »
    no comment:D:D:D:D:D:D



    Ha ha Cleanman, she told me to try pole vaulting :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Cleanman wrote: »
    no comment:D:D:D:D:D:D

    If you ever feel like doing a AMK and changing usernames I vote for NotsoCleanman :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Cleanman


    Tom Joad wrote: »
    If you ever feel like doing a AMK and changing usernames I vote for NotsoCleanman :D
    Ha - there was a reason I was given the name in the first place!

    What I should have said is that there's serious good work in here by TBL.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Cleanman wrote: »
    What I should have said is that there's serious good work in here by TBL.

    + 1 - seriously impressive stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Duanington


    Tom Joad wrote: »
    + 1 - seriously impressive stuff.

    What they said!

    great stuff altogether


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    An 80 min journey round trip for a late night +2 hr run? Looks like I am gonna have to up my game in terms of commitment as even I wouldn't have the motivation to do that. Fair play, its runs like that you will remember come mile 23 when you body is giving you the old FU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    That is simply insane. You deserve no kudos for that run, insanity!!

    Are you sure that you didn't dream the whole thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Gavlor wrote: »
    That is simply insane. You deserve no kudos for that run, insanity!!

    Are you sure that you didn't dream the whole thing?



    No dreaming involved, although the first few miles felt like a nightmare.

    If I hadn't missed over two weeks earlier in the program, I probably wouldnt have gone out, but I can't afford to miss any important sessions at this stage.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Monday: rest day. Got a massage and took an Epsom salt bath.

    Tuesday: program called for 15-25 min wu and cd followed by 5/6 1600m reps with 400m jog recovery.

    I decided to try and run this by "feel" for the reps rather than looking at the watch every couple of seconds. I "feel" I need more practice with this approach!

    Did 24 min wu followed by 5 reps (don't think I would have broken 6.30 if I did a 6th as I was fading fast)

    1. 6.09
    2. 6.18
    3. 6.15
    4. 6.21
    5. 6.25

    Only did a 500m cool down as I was under time pressure.

    TbL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Program called for 50-60 mins ER.

    Did 54 mins, easy miles around the outside of Hyde Park.

    Didn't enjoy it much as there was loads of traffic and the concrete footpaths really take it out of the legs.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Man it took some effort to get out tonight.

    Had a pretty crappy day at work, and sat on the end of the bed, in the hotel with my gear on for a good half hour, looking at crap tv and thinking of reasons why I shouldn't go out.

    Program called for an 80 mins ER.

    Went out with the intention of doing 45 mins and ended up doing 76 mins around the outside of Hyde park again


    I'm not sure if it's in my head (and I very rarely train on them) but concrete footpaths seems to really jar the legs, especially if you're a kit kat chunky like me. Looking forward to getting back to running on Bogger roads :)

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    I'm not sure if it's in my head (and I very rarely train on them) but concrete footpaths seems to really jar the legs, especially if you're a kit kat chunky like me. Looking forward to getting back to running on Bogger roads :)

    TbL

    Lovely floating feeling along bog trails will do the trick!
    Perhaps it's time to try out the Hokas!
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Friday: program called for 4,3,2,1,1 mins hard by two, with 2 mins recovery, usual 15-30 mins wu/cd

    Due to work commitments and getting back late from London last night I missed this session.

    Running mojo at a serious low at the moment.

    Was going to do the session today buy Mr L told me to can it and stick with the planned Saturday ER and to throw in some strides.

    Saturday.

    Program called for 40-50 mins ER.

    Can't seem to shake off the lethargy and only did 4 easy miles late this evening and didn't even bother with the strides (nearly didn't bother going out at all!!)

    Have a long run tomorrow with some MP miles, better get the finger out.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,533 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Stick with it, TheBitterLemon. There's always a low point (or two!) in every tough marathon training plan and adding travel/work to the mix only makes things tougher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Stick with it, TheBitterLemon. There's always a low point (or two!) in every tough marathon training plan and adding travel/work to the mix only makes things tougher.

    Thanks Krusty.

    It was your suggestion to start the log initially, and I've found it brilliant from a motivational perspective, I'm sure that there were a couple of sessions that I definitely wouldn't have done were it not for the fact that I would have had to post a no show on here.

    The help and encouragement on here has also been nothing short of fantastic, and I've even gotten to run with the infamous AMK :)

    Once I roll some of the heaviness out of my legs, I'll give myself a good kick up the hole :)

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    From a 20m run at midnight, to low mojo!

    Stop beating yourself up and read back over your log when you get low points.

    You've more mojo than Mo & Jo put together....................... Or something inspirational like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Sunday: plan called for 16-20 miles with the last 6 to 8 miles at MP.

    Did 18 miles and a mile slow cool down. 19 in total.

    18 miles @ 7.43 average.

    Swirling winds meant that there wasn't one mile where I didn't have the wind in my face for some part of each mile. Had planned to run the last 8 at between 7.10 - 7.15, but they ended up a bit all over the place.

    Splits for the last 8 miles

    11. 7.28
    12. 6.56
    13. 7.00
    14. 7.05
    15. 7.08
    16. 7.05
    17. 7.28
    18. 7.16


    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    that's a super run.
    You in Dublin anytime soon??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Monday: rest day, got a massage

    Today: Program called for a 90 min ER.

    I wanted to test myself on this so asked coach L if it would be ok to run 10 miles at MP. Coach L came back with a definite no and to stick to the planned easy run session. I wanted to do a few extra miles this week so he agreed to me doing a couple of extra very easy runs.

    Am: ran 4 very easy miles

    Pm: was in the big smoke so started in Stephens Green and ran along the canal. The Bogger Garmin obviously doesn't like big cities coz couldn't get a signal in London last week and it took a grudging 5 mins to find a signal here.

    Really enjoyed it until about 3.5 miles in, where the canal was absolutely deserted apart from a couple of likely lads, one of whom fired a bottle at me, it smashed on the ground behind me. I stopped and turned around and they scarpered like they were in the middle if a strides session. Seriously not impressed. Didn't pass anyone else along the way and I'm surprised more runners weren't out as it's a great surface, flat and fairly well lit.

    No sign of the guardians of the canal on the way back!

    Thanks to AMK who offered me part 2 of his PP experience on Thursday but the Boggers visa doesn't extend beyond 24 hours :)

    Did 11 miles @ 8.02.

    TbL


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