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Spaghetti Bolognese?

  • 08-01-2014 01:25PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,611 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I'm just looking for opinions on Spaghetti Bolognese as a dinner choice? I've been making it for dinner most nights after training (BJJ) as A. I'm trying to structure my meals as I never really eat "dinner", B. It's delicious and C. My limited understanding of food leads me to believe that it contains protein and carbs needed post workout.

    How good for me is it? My recipe is very simple:

    50g Wholewheat Pasta
    150g Minced Beef (5% fat when I can get it)
    Approx 200g Dolmio (or similar) Bolognese Sauce.

    I don't add salt nor do I really add anything else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,643 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Make your own sauce if you can find the time - if you google it there'll be plenty of instructions on how to do this, tin of chopped tomatoes a few other items and you're set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    50g Wholewheat Pasta
    150g Minced Beef (5% fat when I can get it)
    Approx 200g Dolmio (or similar) Bolognese Sauce.

    I don't add salt nor do I really add anything else.

    You might not add anything but you can be sure they did.

    the actual choice depends on what your goal is.

    gain weight? lose weight? stay healthy? become pasta eating champion of the south west district?

    each goal you have will affect whether or not spag bol is a good choice.

    If its losing or gaining weight then the rest of your diet will have more of an effect than one meal choice, portions and your body size will dictate that.

    If its staying healthy then store bought pasta sauce is not a great idea. especially when home made pasta sauce is really basic and easy to make.

    Its not a completely ****e idea tho.

    Same goes for the pasta. while its not a great choice, its not the worst. depending on your own stomach but pasta (wheat) can cause dietary problems, but TBH unless you have a medical condition 50g a day wont kill you.

    However, home made Spag bol on a bed of veggies will be a better choice. and is comically easy to cook and can be made in bulk and microwaved as and when you need it.

    If your goal is to become pasta champion then 50g aint going to cut it, stop slacking and and boil more pasta.

    At the end of the day, one meal wont affect you. your diet as a whole will, as long as it fits into your goals



    homemade spag bol:
    chop onions, carrots, celery as small as you can, use food processor if possible

    fry them on a low heat in butter till they are soft and clear.

    add your meat in batches and cook until its brown.

    add crushed garlic + herbs (parley basil or Italian herb mix)

    add a tin of tomato

    let that cook for a while 5/6 mins

    add beef stock, a stock cube is ok.

    bring it up to the boil then reduce it to a simmer, let it simmer for a while, minimum 20 minutes, longer the better.

    you can now let it cool and put it in jars or freeze it.
    then just reheat and pour over cooked root veg and some spinach leaves or pasta.

    While it does take a little more effort in the beginning you can minimise that by making several days worth of food at once.

    for 20-30 minutes effort on one day you can make a weeks worth of dinners much much healthier.

    youll also be getting much more veg in your diet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Gunner1886


    Losing weight and gaining weight falls to one thing, calories in, calories out this will change your body composition regardless of what you eat.
    now eating for health is entirely different and makes the pasta on your plate a waste of space, sweet potato fries or baked sweet potato would be a far better option.
    my recomendation would be if eating for the shape of your body, swap the pasta for dove farms brown rice pasta sold in tesco better option, no nasty extras.
    swap your sauce to llyod grossmans its additive free and made with olive oil, take a multi-vitimin I like centrum.
    If eating for health, drop the sauces for lean chicken or steak, stir fry or steam half a plate of veg for every meal, 1/4 plate of protein(lean meats) with every meal,
    add in 1/4 plate of brown rice or brown rice pasta or even a single sweet potato cut into fries, table spoon of oil with every meal try franks hotsauce if this is too bland for you, throw in a protein shake, handful of almonds or natural yogurt with handful of berries as 2 snacks throughout the day, meal times are unimportant there is no magic windows despite what you hear.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Gunner1886 wrote: »
    If eating for health, drop the sauces for lean chicken or steak, stir fry or steam half a plate of veg for every meal, 1/4 plate of protein(lean meats) with every meal,
    I never thought of making spaghetti bolognese like that!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    I never thought of making spaghetti bolognese like that!!!!

    when i college I made duck in orange sauce to impress a girl.

    I lacked duck so i just used 2 asda burgers. I also lacked orange sauce so I just used tikka masala sauce. Was very nice. Substitutions are a very common practice in high class cookery.

    I still make duck a l'orange in the same method.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    when i college I made duck in orange sauce to impress a girl.

    I lacked duck so i just used 2 asda burgers. I also lacked orange sauce so I just used tikka masala sauce. Was very nice. Substitutions are a very common practice in high class cookery.

    I still make duck a l'orange in the same method.

    I'm gonna need a new keyboard.

    And coffee refill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    Time spent developing your understanding of food and learning a bit on how to prepare it is a great investment if you plan to "eat healthy".

    @thegreatiam: Was the girl impressed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Essien wrote: »
    Time spent developing your understanding of food and learning a bit on how to prepare it is a great investment if you plan to "eat healthy".

    @thegreatiam: Was the girl impressed?

    no, but my flat mates were, Burger tikka masala became a staple.

    along with spam fried rice and meat salad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    I always boil my mince. You should see the grease that rises to the top. Disgusting. Strain and you are left with grease free mince and the texture is lovely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    I always boil my mince. You should see the grease that rises to the top. Disgusting. Strain and you are left with grease free mince and the texture is lovely.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭hfallada


    I always boil my mince. You should see the grease that rises to the top. Disgusting. Strain and you are left with grease free mince and the texture is lovely.

    Or you could just buy the better quality slightly more expensive mince?

    Any pre-made sauces are full of sugar and salt. Most pasta sauces in the us have over 30% sugar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I always boil my mince. You should see the grease that rises to the top. Disgusting. Strain and you are left with grease free mince and the texture is lovely.


    Dry fry it and you can drain off the fat.

    And you're left with something reasonably appetising as opposed to boiled mince.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Trent Houseboat


    I always boil my mince. You should see the grease that rises to the top. Disgusting. Strain and you are left with grease free mince and the texture is lovely.
    I can think of few thing less appetising that boiled mince. Just get some decent mince from your butcher and fry it in batches so you don't have it sitting in puddles of water.
    Nothing wront with a bit of grease anyway, that's what flavour's made of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭billy2012


    Add a few red peppers and mushrooms nom nom


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    I always boil my mince. You should see the grease that rises to the top. Disgusting. Strain and you are left with grease free mince and the texture is lovely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    So good you said it thrice?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    It's lovely. Don't knock it unless you try it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    It's lovely. Don't knock it unless you try it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,611 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    I used to boil it but it tastes not so good. Now I just put a little (very little) bit of Olive Oil on a pan and fry it!

    Thanks for the tips guys. I'm not looking at it as a weight loss thing. I know how to lose weight and have my calories down, but I just want to make sure that i'm not making a boo-boo by eating Spag Bol regularly.

    Definitely going to start making my own sauce!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Stojkovic


    Always buy good quality lean mince.
    Always make your own sauce.

    If you cant make simple tomato sauce you shouldnt be allowed near a cooker.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Stojkovic wrote: »

    If you cant make simple tomato sauce you shouldnt be allowed near a cooker.

    although someone who cant make a simple tomato sauce probably is looking for any reason to avoid the cooker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭JOSman


    Stojkovic wrote: »
    Always buy good quality lean mince.
    Always make your own sauce.

    If you cant make simple tomato sauce you shouldnt be allowed near a cooker.


    If your not allowed near a cooker, how do you learn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭danslevent


    You could also try Quorn mince


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    danslevent wrote: »
    You could also try Quorn mince

    Or clay.

    It's cheaper and just as tasty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,611 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    danslevent wrote: »
    You could also try Quorn mince

    What are the pros over regular lean mince?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,470 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    What are the pros over regular lean mince?

    There is none


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    What are the pros over regular lean mince?

    worth more points in scrabble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,541 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    I always boil my mince. You should see the grease that rises to the top. Disgusting. Strain and you are left with grease free mince and the texture is lovely.
    Dry fry it and you can drain off the fat.

    And you're left with something reasonably appetising as opposed to boiled mince.

    Why are you throwing away the tastiest bit? Give it to me.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    I always boil my mince. You should see the grease that rises to the top. Disgusting. Strain and you are left with grease free mince and the texture is lovely.

    Boiled mince has the texture of dryer lint, and is just as tasty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,198 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I’m a huge advocate of real food, and I think most jars are crap and often full of sugar. I never use them.
    But I’m gonna go against the grain here and say that tomato based pasta sauce is an exception, and there’s little wrong with it.

    Making a simple sauce yourself is easy of course. And of course it is better. To do it right you need to simmer the tomatoes for a while to remove bitterness. Which is fine, it’s no longer than I’d spend on my homemade thai curry for example.
    Except that for me, it’s my go-to meal in a hurry (like Stuffins, often after BJJ). When I’ve spend 2.5 hours training, I prefer the quick option. Kangaroo mince (honestly), tomato pasta sauce plus lots of onions, mushrooms, peppers, (I don’t usually have pasta though).
    Somebody made a suggestion that a jar is 30% sugar. No it’s not, not even close. The one I buy is 5%. Which is not significantly different than the sugar content of the tinned tomatoes going into homemade.

    Here’s the ingredients for Dolmio – Extra Garlic
    Tomatoes 85%, Garlic 8%, Sugar, Onion, Salt, Basil, Citric Acid, Yeast Extract, Pepper, Paprika, Oregano, Fennel, Garlic Extract 0.5%

    That’s mostly vegetables and herbs. While the added sugar isn’t necessary, it’s about 1% - if that’s the worst part of your diet then you have nothing to worry about. We need some salt in our diet.
    Now I’m not saying that every jar of tomato sauce is fine, I’m sure plenty are terrible. But if you take a minute to check the labels you can find a good one.
    To each their own, I’m happy to give up that tiny nutritional edge in the interest of speed when I need it (maybe once a fortnight).
    I suppose a perfect solution would be to make my own when I have time and store it in jars ready to go, would that work?


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