Farming Chit Chat III

jersey101 · 04-01-2014 05:40PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

If I was short of feed I'd be buying that .should be a top quality feed.50 50 beet maize mix delievered to yout yard for 55 a tonne sounds ok to me anyway.theres a lot of work in beet between harvesting it,washing it,chopping it then mixing it with maize and then to deliever it.

Ye I'd say it could be 1200e a load. The maize would be good for keeping the spring calved cows in good condition.
Considering teagasc say a DM is worth 30e a tonne

biddy2013 · 04-01-2014 06:07PM

if you where buying in a load, would you not have to feed it quite quick does maize not heat easily?

Rho b · 04-01-2014 06:20PM

We got some baled maize last year and put it through the diet feeder. It went mouldy quite quickly once the bale was opened.

dzer2 · 04-01-2014 06:30PM

Rho b wrote: »

We got some baled maize last year and put it through the diet feeder. It went mouldy quite quickly once the bale was opened.

Last yr was no reference yr for any fodder have used maize here before and got 10 days out of it before starting to go mouldy.

Rho b · 04-01-2014 06:34PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Last yr was no reference yr for any fodder have used maize here before and got 10 days out of it before starting to go mouldy.

Sorry I ment 2012 - still haven't got used to it been 2014 yet.
The bales were serious weight. It only went mouldy around the outside.

jersey101 · 04-01-2014 06:37PM

biddy2013 wrote: »

if you where buying in a load, would you not have to feed it quite quick does maize not heat easily?

Iwas thinking the same.
What if I got two loads and got the contractor to pit it?

Brown Podzol · 04-01-2014 06:40PM

Get the test. Fodder beet or sugar beet? Should be around 25% dm , €220 a ton dm. Quality feed and convenient. You can check the value against concentrate using the following link.

http://www.teagasc.ie/calc/FeedStuffs.asp

dzer2 · 04-01-2014 06:56PM

jersey101 wrote: »

Iwas thinking the same.
What if I got two loads and got the contractor to pit it?

Thats what I done a few yrs ago I bought 120 tonne and recovered it.
It worked out fine at the start but I wasnt using enough daily.
If you pit it make sure its only wide or narrow enough that you use all the face in 5 days.

jersey101 · 04-01-2014 07:06PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Thats what I done a few yrs ago I bought 120 tonne and recovered it.
It worked out fine at the start but I wasnt using enough daily.
If you pit it make sure its only wide or narrow enough that you use all the face in 5 days.

The pit is 75ft long so I could put it the length of that. I'd say I'd be using a half a tonne a day out of it. At the start any way. If the feeding value was in it, it would be a better buy than bales of silage

Conmaicne Mara · 04-01-2014 07:14PM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Get the test. Fodder beet or sugar beet? Should be around 25% dm , €220 a ton dm. Quality feed and convenient. You can check the value against concentrate using the following link.

http://www.teagasc.ie/calc/FeedStuffs.asp

What would an average barley and soya price be to enter there? Only got bagged stuff available here really, wouldn't know what bulk straights cost.

bob charles · 04-01-2014 07:17PM

jersey101 wrote: »

The pit is 75ft long so I could put it the length of that. I'd say I'd be using a half a tonne a day out of it. At the start any way. If the feeding value was in it, it would be a better buy than bales of silage

get the test, or ring up and ask a few questions, what was the starch in the maize, is it sugar beet or fodder. Whats the DM what is in the truck that is going to be delivering, washing and chopping beet can add lots of water if done as part of the one job. At €55 a ton it could be very good value or no value depending on the spec. the seller is straight

Brown Podzol · 04-01-2014 07:33PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

What would an average barley and soya price be to enter there? Only got bagged stuff available here really, wouldn't know what bulk straights cost.

Soya 450/480 today. Didn't price barley lately but would assume 210/220. Prices bulk blown.

Timmaay · 04-01-2014 07:52PM

jersey101 wrote: »

The pit is 75ft long so I could put it the length of that. I'd say I'd be using a half a tonne a day out of it. At the start any way. If the feeding value was in it, it would be a better buy than bales of silage

Agreed that it would probably be better than bales, which can be risky. Actually Jersey, did you say your silage only tested at 66% dmd? Using the likes of that feed could give the cows a nice boost. If its sugarbeet, whats the max % of the cows diet you should use? My uncle lost 10 or so cows a few years back after he overfeed sugarbeet, my dad wont touch it as a result!

Brown Podzol · 04-01-2014 08:07PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Agreed that it would probably be better than bales, which can be risky. Actually Jersey, did you say your silage only tested at 66% dmd? Using the likes of that feed could give the cows a nice boost. If its sugarbeet, whats the max % of the cows diet you should use? My uncle lost 10 or so cows a few years back after he overfeed sugarbeet, my dad wont touch it as a result!

You could go to 25kg, starting at 5 and rising gradually. This feed will be low in protein and will need to be balanced for minerals.

jersey101 · 04-01-2014 08:26PM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

You could go to 25kg, starting at 5 and rising gradually. This feed will be low in protein and will need to be balanced for minerals.

Ye the silage is 66 DMD and cows getting 6kg of 16% .95 ufl nuts. And getting pure phosphorus and trace elements in there water

mahoney_j · 04-01-2014 09:14PM

Just finished reading Jim styles book,what a fookin man,fought like a warrior to the end.watching programme about Donal Walsh now. Another inspirational person who life has sadly been taken from us.meet a lot of auld miserable whinging ****es over the last year who should read that book or watch this programme.

Bizzum · 04-01-2014 09:23PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Just finished reading Jim styles book,what a fookin man,fought like a warrior to the end.watching programme about Donal Walsh now. Another inspirational person who life has sadly been taken from us.meet a lot of auld miserable whinging ****es over the last year who should read that book or watch this programme.

I have Stynes My Journey here, I didn't get round to reading it yet.
Have a read of Born to perform, by Ger Hartmann.

mahoney_j · 04-01-2014 09:30PM

Bizzum wrote: »

I have Stynes My Journey here, I didn't get round to reading it yet.
Have a read of Born to perform, by Ger Hartmann.

Great book and a great man

Bizzum · 04-01-2014 09:34PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Great book and a great man

Good book alright, maybe a little bit of chest beating and self adulation but he deserves it. Well worth a read, I might even read it again, its been a couple of years!

TEAT SQUEEZER · 04-01-2014 10:47PM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

You could go to 25kg, starting at 5 and rising gradually. This feed will be low in protein and will need to be balanced for minerals.

next to impossible to incorporate that level of feeding where there is freshly calved cows joining the herd all the time ... those levels would blow her to kingdom come

just do it · 04-01-2014 11:04PM

Bizzum wrote: »

Have a read of Born to perform, by Ger Hartmann.

Must take a look. Is it about Ger, or is it about his take on what it takes to be a successful athlete? I'd be more interested in the latter.

Bizzum · 04-01-2014 11:05PM

just do it wrote: »

Must take a look. Is it about Ger, or is it about his take on what it takes to be a successful athlete? I'd be more interested in the latter.

Both. It's a good read. It won't disappoint ya!

just do it · 04-01-2014 11:07PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Just finished reading Jim styles book,what a fookin man,fought like a warrior to the end.watching programme about Donal Walsh now. Another inspirational person who life has sadly been taken from us.meet a lot of auld miserable whinging ****es over the last year who should read that book or watch this programme.

Agree with you wholeheartedly. I love reading about these highly successful and inspirational people. Better than listening to doom and gloom merchants any day of the week. I avoid them as much as I can til be honest. Life is too short

Reggie. · 04-01-2014 11:29PM

Tis only a thing of beauty

:D
http://imgur.com/r/powerwashingporn

Damo810 · 04-01-2014 11:43PM

One of you fellas mentioned the storm in Lahinch. Taken from Joe.ie's Facebook..

At least they won't have to clean their windows now!

Reggie. · 04-01-2014 11:46PM

Damo810 wrote: »

One of you fellas mentioned the storm in Lahinch. Taken from Joe.ie's Facebook..

At least they won't have to clean their windows now!

clean them....they will have to find them first

In fairness savage photo tho, just goes to show the power of water

bob charles · 05-01-2014 09:20PM

where has Chit chat XIII gone to :mad:

Reggie. · 05-01-2014 09:25PM

bob charles wrote: »

where has Chit chat XIII gone to :mad:

Ha

Panch18 · 05-01-2014 09:36PM

Looks like there is lots of stuff missing in here

Posts from this morning seem to be gone, sticky threads etc

jersey101 · 05-01-2014 09:38PM

Panch18 wrote: »

Looks like there is lots of stuff missing in here

Posts from this morning seem to be gone, sticky threads etc

I'd say they will have them back soon. All other forums have theres

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