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how much rent do you owe

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭thegreatgonzo


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Renting is dead wasted money, enjoy paying someone else's mortgage for a house which you will never own.

    Aren't you still living with your parents?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭guppy


    I don't owe any, in fact I just paid it today a week early!

    Rent is one thing I'd never ever let myself fall behind with.

    I would never deal in cash with a landlord. Our current landlord tried to insist on it, but I refused. It's essential to have an indisputable record of all payments made. Even if you were given a receipt for a cash payment, they could easily claim you forged the receipt and never paid them. No chance of claiming that when you pay by bank transfer or standing order.

    Same here, always early. We once paid "on time" and the landlord was on us like a flash. Took great joy in reminding him that our payment is due on the 9th of a month and we pay early so he could go and reasses his lease.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    rwg wrote: »
    Thread discriminates against houseowners - as if they dont have enough on their plate

    No it doesn't.

    We've a poster concerned about the fact that his landlord called for rent after 4 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,398 ✭✭✭✭cena


    My last landlady was only accepting cash in hand, turns out she didn't have house declared to revenue but has since been found out, I don't know what the repercussions were but I'd imagine they were hefty, I'd get out of that lease op.

    I wonder myself what would happen if the landlord got caught


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    cena wrote: »
    Are you up to date on your rent?

    Landlord here comes when it suites him 4 months since he was last here.

    Only wants cash in hand.

    Sounds dodgy

    What happens if he turns around and tells you the rent for the last 4 months has gone up?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,398 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Chucken wrote: »
    No it doesn't.

    We've a poster concerned about the fact that his landlord called for rent after 4 months.

    Please don't be concerned. He says he is working in Dublin. He could send to wife if he wanted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,398 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Sounds dodgy

    What happens if he turns around and tells you the rent for the last 4 months has gone up?

    Not sure what I would do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭poundapunnet


    Sounds dodgy

    What happens if he turns around and tells you the rent for the last 4 months has gone up?

    I'd say anyone taking cash in hand would have the sense not to do that though, they know the trouble they'd be in if threshold got involved. I've had a couple landlords where it was a cash in hand no lease situation and if anything they were more attentive to things like repairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭Bellview


    cena wrote: »
    Not a thing. Not even a thing to say the rate of insulation in the house. They are cold houses

    Their reaction when you ask for a rent book may give a clue if tax scam or even a bank one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Bellview wrote: »
    Their reaction when you ask for a rent book may give a clue if tax scam or even a bank one

    Thats true but thats not his problem.

    If he is putting his rent away every week, its a worry waiting for when the landlord to turn up. It would be for anyone.
    Thats why I'm recommending he go to Citizens info.
    There are people there who can speak up for him if needed.
    He hasn't a leg to stand on at the minute.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭MaroonAndGreen


    Owe over two grand and dont see myself getting the funds anytime soon.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Owe over two grand and dont see myself getting the funds anytime soon.....

    I'm not going to ask how/why. But you know there is help for you to try and sort this out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Like many others have said rent is the last thing that would go unpaid in my house. I have been a couple of days late a couple of times but it has always been paid. I just lodge the money into his bank account and keep the receipt as proof. My bills get paid first and then I go food shopping, if I can't afford shopping that week then it's tough, I can eat whatever is in the cupboards for the week. I don't have kids so I have that luxury :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Jonkenji


    Daqster wrote: »
    A week late and my landlord sends me texts with the urgency of someone who were they not to get the money within 48 hours, the bank would take their house and two of their children would starve to death.

    Have dealt with these before but I suppose it is only fair to pay on time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭MaroonAndGreen


    Chucken wrote: »
    I'm not going to ask how/why. But you know there is help for you to try and sort this out.

    Like what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    cena wrote: »
    Are you up to date on your rent?

    Landlord here comes when it suites him 4 months since he was last here.

    Only wants cash in hand.
    cena wrote: »
    Not a thing. Not even a thing to say the rate of insulation in the house. They are cold houses

    Cena, are you working? You should be getting an allowance on your taxes for your rent. You cannot claim this without your landlord signing and proof of your rent. If he refuses to sign, do move out and then let revenue and the PRTB know what was going on. Chances are he is not declaring the income or cheating everyone as I like to call it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Just paid it there at half 7. €330 for the month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Renting is dead wasted money, enjoy paying someone else's mortgage for a house which you will never own.

    Around 60% of Germans rent and they're far better off than we are in this country. You haven't thought this through properly have you?

    If you look at property prices v income, a lot of people cannot afford to buy a property, including many of those that do buy anyway. It's overly simplistic and misleading arguments, such as the one you made, that lead them into years of financial misery. As opposed to all those happy Germans (and people from virtually every other country in the world where they do not have hangups about land ownership) merrily paying that "dead wasted money" and happily living their lives within their means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Rezident


    €650 a month. Fully up to date but the lease ran out over six months ago. Now the landlord wants me to sign another one for another six months. I've no problem with it except the "€100 administration charge". It just feels so wrong! How long before I get kicked out? I have never been late with rent and I know some others are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,947 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Sounds like a landlord I had back in college. A few houses with 10+ in most anbnd he'd come in every few months and put up a sheet telling us how much we all owed for bills. Usually a nice round number to be paid by cash or bank draft only.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,590 ✭✭✭theteal


    Rezident wrote: »
    €650 a month. Fully up to date but the lease ran out over six months ago. Now the landlord wants me to sign another one for another six months. I've no problem with it except the "€100 administration charge". It just feels so wrong! How long before I get kicked out? I have never been late with rent and I know some others are.

    are they changing the rent amount with the new lease? If not, afaik you don't have to sign a thing, part IV tenancy and all that jazz.

    Ours isn't due until the 20th so we're up to date


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Renting is dead wasted money, enjoy paying someone else's mortgage for a house which you will never own.

    Actually with renting you get:
    A roof over your head
    A property bust won't affect you
    You can leave whenever you want without major financial difficulty
    You won't have the upkeep of the property or appliances/furniture to worry about.
    You get to live out of home or not in a homeless shelter/on the street.
    Your rent won't be as unpredictable as a variable rate mortgage.

    When I think back to living in Ireland and everyone was calling me a moron for not getting a house, I probably saved myself between 80 and 100k euros, not including the interest I would have paid on the mortgage anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    Rezident wrote: »
    Around 60% of Germans rent and they're far better off than we are in this country. You haven't thought this through properly have you?

    If you look at property prices v income, a lot of people cannot afford to buy a property, including many of those that do buy anyway. It's overly simplistic and misleading arguments, such as the one you made, that lead them into years of financial misery. As opposed to all those happy Germans (and people from virtually every other country in the world where they do not have hangups about land ownership) merrily paying that "dead wasted money" and happily living their lives within their means.

    Norway has a homeownership rate of almost 80% and they are typically rated the happiest country in the world.

    I'm not trying to state that homeownership causes happiness I'm just supplying a counter point to your assessment that homeownership causes unhappiness.

    Correlation does not imply causation etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Actually with renting you get:
    A roof over your head
    A property bust won't affect you
    You can leave whenever you want without major financial difficulty
    You won't have the upkeep of the property or appliances/furniture to worry about.
    You get to live out of home or not in a homeless shelter/on the street.
    Your rent won't be as unpredictable as a variable rate mortgage.

    When I think back to living in Ireland and everyone was calling me a moron for not getting a house, I probably saved myself between 80 and 100k euros, not including the interest I would have paid on the mortgage anyway.

    Its not all roses.
    In Limerick, at the minute, theres a huge block of flats where the landlord of some of them is in financial trouble. So what did he do?

    Lock everyone out of their homes with all their possessions still inside! No warning, nothing. People just came home from work one evening and couldn't get into their home.

    Ive heard that's not the only place that did that.

    TBH there are very few nice apartments in Limerick. Even the houses for rent arent great, even though they are new.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Renting is dead wasted money, enjoy paying someone else's mortgage for a house which you will never own.

    that attitude and opinion should have died the quick death it deserved along with the celtic tiger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,533 ✭✭✭SV


    Its not all roses.
    In Limerick, at the minute, theres a huge block of flats where the landlord of some of them is in financial trouble. So what did he do?

    Lock everyone out of their homes with all their possessions still inside! No warning, nothing. People just came home from work one evening and couldn't get into their home.

    Ive heard that's not the only place that did that.

    TBH there are very few nice apartments in Limerick. Even the houses for rent arent great, even though they are new.


    and what he did is highly illegal. So there's that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Rezident wrote: »
    €650 a month. Fully up to date but the lease ran out over six months ago. Now the landlord wants me to sign another one for another six months. I've no problem with it except the "€100 administration charge". It just feels so wrong! How long before I get kicked out? I have never been late with rent and I know some others are.

    You do not have to sign another lease, or pay administration charges.

    Once you've been there for over six months, you are on a part 4 tenancy, which can only be terminated for very specific reasons. He cannot kick you out for not signing another lease.

    Have a look at the accommodation and property forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    SV wrote: »
    and what he did is highly illegal so there's that.

    http://m.limerickleader.ie/news/local-news/call-for-solution-to-limerick-apartment-crux-1-5486352

    Sorry, had to go looking for a link....
    Yeah, it's still ongoing, so no matter how illegal, it's a reality for 50 people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Carpet diem


    SV wrote: »
    that attitude and opinion should have died the quick death it deserved along with the celtic tiger.

    Hard to get nice spot to rent particularly in Dublin that meets most of your needs thou. Saying that happy renting for now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Have never been late on rent or any bills for that matter.

    The credit card is another thing altogether. Never been late but almost maxed it out and paying minimum monthly payment. Gonna get stuck into it this year.


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