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how much rent do you owe

  • 03-01-2014 12:23am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭


    Are you up to date on your rent?

    Landlord here comes when it suites him 4 months since he was last here.

    Only wants cash in hand.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Direct debit is how its done. Only people up to no good deal in cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    I just transfer in the first week of every month.

    Cash only would raise alarm bells for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Direct debit is how its done. Only people up to no good deal in cash.

    Thank you. I have said it from day one I don't trust the guy.
    Bro use to pay him through bank but he has since stopped him from doing it.
    Same landlord.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Do you have a rent book? Lease? Prtb registration letter? Sounds like a dodgy landlord.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Shane-KornSpace


    I owe 230 which will be paid on Tuesday!
    I like to pay in the agency's office. If the money isn't in the bank account on time for a direct debit, I'll be charged 12.50 by the bank.
    It also just works out handier for me! Indpont like keeping money in my account, because I'm a ****er for letting it go in to overdraft!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    AdMMM wrote: »
    I just transfer in the first week of every month.

    Cash only would raise alarm bells for me!

    He seems to be cash only person. It would say it is to do with tax


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Do you have a rent book? Lease? Prtb registration letter? Sounds like a dodgy landlord.

    Not a thing. Not even a thing to say the rate of insulation in the house. They are cold houses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    cena wrote: »
    Not a thing. Not even a thing to say the rate of insulation in the house. They are cold houses

    You really have to get a rent book.
    If you need a hand with anything, get on to your local Citizens Information


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Daqster


    A week late and my landlord sends me texts with the urgency of someone who were they not to get the money within 48 hours, the bank would take their house and two of their children would starve to death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    cena wrote: »
    Not a thing. Not even a thing to say the rate of insulation in the house. They are cold houses

    Not being smart, but good luck getting you deposit back when you move iut. Cowboy landlords don't tend to give them back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    OP doesn't matter how you pay get receipts,get rent book,pay through bank,ask for something from landlord if only in cash


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    You start the weirdest threads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭padma


    not to sound funny, but if my Landlord hadnt arrived in four months, I'd be sorely tempted to up sticks and leave.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Renting is dead wasted money, enjoy paying someone else's mortgage for a house which you will never own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    padma wrote: »
    not to sound funny, but if my Landlord hadnt arrived in four months, I'd be sorely tempted to up sticks and leave.

    You succeeded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    delw wrote: »
    OP doesn't matter how you pay get receipts,get rent book,pay through bank,ask for something from landlord if only in cash

    I have all texts he has sent looking for the rent. We have asked for an bank account details but no go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    You start the weirdest threads.

    I know I'm weird like that. ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    padma wrote: »
    not to sound funny, but if my Landlord hadnt arrived in four months, I'd be sorely tempted to up sticks and leave.

    It's not that easy for some people :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    padma wrote: »
    not to sound funny, but if my Landlord hadnt arrived in four months, I'd be sorely tempted to up sticks and leave.

    Leave the country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Only accepting cash can be an be an indicator of a non compliant landlord tax wise. It can also indicate a landlord in difficulty with his lender where he is basically attempting to hide money from the bank.
    It could also be nothing but it's probably one or both of the above.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭poundapunnet


    Not being smart, but good luck getting you deposit back when you move iut. Cowboy landlords don't tend to give them back.

    Yeah, if you know when you're moving out I'd try avoid paying the last month's rent just to be safe.

    Plenty landlords only take cash, probably doesn't have it registered as a rental property.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,118 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Renting is dead wasted money, enjoy paying someone else's mortgage for a house which you will never own.

    That attitude got some people to pay €250k for a small semi-detached house in Offaly ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    I don't owe any, in fact I just paid it today a week early!

    Rent is one thing I'd never ever let myself fall behind with.

    I would never deal in cash with a landlord. Our current landlord tried to insist on it, but I refused. It's essential to have an indisputable record of all payments made. Even if you were given a receipt for a cash payment, they could easily claim you forged the receipt and never paid them. No chance of claiming that when you pay by bank transfer or standing order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Yeah, if you know when you're moving out I'd try avoid paying the last month's rent just to be safe.

    Plenty landlords only take cash, probably doesn't have it registered as a rental property.


    Would be suspicisous of this too. Heard it is really common with the pre 1963 conversions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    cena wrote: »
    Leave the country?

    Not at all.
    You should get this sorted out though.
    Go to Citizens information.
    Theres a sticky at the top of the page, I think their details are there.


    EDIT: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting_a_home/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Chucken wrote: »
    Not at all.
    You should get this sorted out though.
    Go to Citizens information.
    Theres a sticky at the top of the page, I think their details are there.


    EDIT: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting_a_home/

    Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭lau1247


    cena wrote: »
    Are you up to date on your rent?

    Yep, up to date, paid with DD, safest and easiest way really.. Then again my landlord is sound

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭rwg


    Thread discriminates against houseowners - as if they dont have enough on their plate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    rwg wrote: »
    Thread discriminates against houseowners - as if they dont have enough on their plate

    Sorry if it has come across as that, not my intentions


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Starscream25


    My last landlady was only accepting cash in hand, turns out she didn't have house declared to revenue but has since been found out, I don't know what the repercussions were but I'd imagine they were hefty, I'd get out of that lease op.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭thegreatgonzo


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Renting is dead wasted money, enjoy paying someone else's mortgage for a house which you will never own.

    Aren't you still living with your parents?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭guppy


    I don't owe any, in fact I just paid it today a week early!

    Rent is one thing I'd never ever let myself fall behind with.

    I would never deal in cash with a landlord. Our current landlord tried to insist on it, but I refused. It's essential to have an indisputable record of all payments made. Even if you were given a receipt for a cash payment, they could easily claim you forged the receipt and never paid them. No chance of claiming that when you pay by bank transfer or standing order.

    Same here, always early. We once paid "on time" and the landlord was on us like a flash. Took great joy in reminding him that our payment is due on the 9th of a month and we pay early so he could go and reasses his lease.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    rwg wrote: »
    Thread discriminates against houseowners - as if they dont have enough on their plate

    No it doesn't.

    We've a poster concerned about the fact that his landlord called for rent after 4 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    My last landlady was only accepting cash in hand, turns out she didn't have house declared to revenue but has since been found out, I don't know what the repercussions were but I'd imagine they were hefty, I'd get out of that lease op.

    I wonder myself what would happen if the landlord got caught


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    cena wrote: »
    Are you up to date on your rent?

    Landlord here comes when it suites him 4 months since he was last here.

    Only wants cash in hand.

    Sounds dodgy

    What happens if he turns around and tells you the rent for the last 4 months has gone up?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Chucken wrote: »
    No it doesn't.

    We've a poster concerned about the fact that his landlord called for rent after 4 months.

    Please don't be concerned. He says he is working in Dublin. He could send to wife if he wanted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Sounds dodgy

    What happens if he turns around and tells you the rent for the last 4 months has gone up?

    Not sure what I would do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭poundapunnet


    Sounds dodgy

    What happens if he turns around and tells you the rent for the last 4 months has gone up?

    I'd say anyone taking cash in hand would have the sense not to do that though, they know the trouble they'd be in if threshold got involved. I've had a couple landlords where it was a cash in hand no lease situation and if anything they were more attentive to things like repairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭Bellview


    cena wrote: »
    Not a thing. Not even a thing to say the rate of insulation in the house. They are cold houses

    Their reaction when you ask for a rent book may give a clue if tax scam or even a bank one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Bellview wrote: »
    Their reaction when you ask for a rent book may give a clue if tax scam or even a bank one

    Thats true but thats not his problem.

    If he is putting his rent away every week, its a worry waiting for when the landlord to turn up. It would be for anyone.
    Thats why I'm recommending he go to Citizens info.
    There are people there who can speak up for him if needed.
    He hasn't a leg to stand on at the minute.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭MaroonAndGreen


    Owe over two grand and dont see myself getting the funds anytime soon.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Owe over two grand and dont see myself getting the funds anytime soon.....

    I'm not going to ask how/why. But you know there is help for you to try and sort this out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Like many others have said rent is the last thing that would go unpaid in my house. I have been a couple of days late a couple of times but it has always been paid. I just lodge the money into his bank account and keep the receipt as proof. My bills get paid first and then I go food shopping, if I can't afford shopping that week then it's tough, I can eat whatever is in the cupboards for the week. I don't have kids so I have that luxury :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Jonkenji


    Daqster wrote: »
    A week late and my landlord sends me texts with the urgency of someone who were they not to get the money within 48 hours, the bank would take their house and two of their children would starve to death.

    Have dealt with these before but I suppose it is only fair to pay on time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭MaroonAndGreen


    Chucken wrote: »
    I'm not going to ask how/why. But you know there is help for you to try and sort this out.

    Like what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    cena wrote: »
    Are you up to date on your rent?

    Landlord here comes when it suites him 4 months since he was last here.

    Only wants cash in hand.
    cena wrote: »
    Not a thing. Not even a thing to say the rate of insulation in the house. They are cold houses

    Cena, are you working? You should be getting an allowance on your taxes for your rent. You cannot claim this without your landlord signing and proof of your rent. If he refuses to sign, do move out and then let revenue and the PRTB know what was going on. Chances are he is not declaring the income or cheating everyone as I like to call it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Just paid it there at half 7. €330 for the month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Renting is dead wasted money, enjoy paying someone else's mortgage for a house which you will never own.

    Around 60% of Germans rent and they're far better off than we are in this country. You haven't thought this through properly have you?

    If you look at property prices v income, a lot of people cannot afford to buy a property, including many of those that do buy anyway. It's overly simplistic and misleading arguments, such as the one you made, that lead them into years of financial misery. As opposed to all those happy Germans (and people from virtually every other country in the world where they do not have hangups about land ownership) merrily paying that "dead wasted money" and happily living their lives within their means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭Rezident


    €650 a month. Fully up to date but the lease ran out over six months ago. Now the landlord wants me to sign another one for another six months. I've no problem with it except the "€100 administration charge". It just feels so wrong! How long before I get kicked out? I have never been late with rent and I know some others are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Sounds like a landlord I had back in college. A few houses with 10+ in most anbnd he'd come in every few months and put up a sheet telling us how much we all owed for bills. Usually a nice round number to be paid by cash or bank draft only.


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