Passports

2ygb4cmqetsjhx · 03-01-2014 05:18AM #1

How do passports work? Say I lost a passport. Then got a new one. But the old one is still "looks" like a valid passport. Now I have two passports with an expiry date in 3 and 4 years respectively. Can I use the old one? Say I fly to China. They scan my passport. How do they know it's cancelled. Just curious.

dodderangler · 03-01-2014 05:22AM

Well I'm pretty sure if it's out of date then it's no use at all.
The old can probably be used for I.d but as for flying I don't think so.

03-01-2014 05:23AM

Your old passport number is gone.. It will just show up as invalid/fake in the airport. A land border is a bit different.. I know it would be unlikely to show up on any of the SEA Asia borders.

PrettyBoy · 03-01-2014 05:24AM

I'd imagine that the passport authorities would register it as lost/stolen and therefore it would be void. When scanned it would say it has been cancelled.

2ygb4cmqetsjhx · 03-01-2014 05:27AM

So does this mean that there is a database somewhere that contains a list of all the passports in the world that are currently valid. Like I get a new passport from Ireland. They mark the number as cancelled. How and who transmits this information to say tajikistan or whatever.

Chucken · 03-01-2014 05:29AM

Ty Dead Herb wrote: »

How do passports work? Say I lost a passport. Then got a new one. But the old one is still "looks" like a valid passport. Now I have two passports with an expiry date in 3 and 4 years respectively. Can I use the old one? Say I fly to China. They scan my passport. How do they know it's cancelled. Just curious.

How can you use the old one if its lost?

Turtwig · 03-01-2014 05:30AM

Ty Dead Herb wrote: »

So does this mean that there is a database somewhere that contains a list of all the passports in the world that are currently valid. Like I get a new passport from Ireland. They mark the number as cancelled. How and who transmits this information to say tajikistan or whatever.

Carrier pigeons.
No really, they're more efficient than you might think.

03-01-2014 05:35AM

Yea I assume there's a list.. Think Interpol. And it doesn't really matter if it extends to a stan country because you can't fly out of Europe with the old one and once your in another country with your new passport, you can't leave on the the old one because there'd be no visa or entry stamp.

I've got friends here with two passports but they're stuck using whichever one they came to this part of the world on.. Only real way to switch is to get back to a home country.

lostdisk · 03-01-2014 05:45AM

I know a fella has two passports. Hes a twin.

MadsL · 03-01-2014 07:23AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've got friends here with two passports but they're stuck using whichever one they came to this part of the world on.. Only real way to switch is to get back to a home country.

Eh? It doesn't work like that.

My wife has dual nationality. She uses her Irish one to enter Ireland and her US one to enter the US.

Xavi6 · 03-01-2014 07:26AM

MadsL wrote: »

Eh? It doesn't work like that.

My wife has dual nationality. She uses her Irish one to enter Ireland and her US one to enter the US.

I've Irish and Australian passports and do the same thing when travelling back and forth.

No customs lines at either end :cool:

Eoin247 · 03-01-2014 07:29AM

MadsL wrote: »

Eh? It doesn't work like that.

My wife has dual nationality. She uses her Irish one to enter Ireland and her US one to enter the US.

I believe he's talking about when you leave the country you must use the same passport. They stamp it to say you have left on such and such a date.

Mat the trasher · 03-01-2014 07:58AM

You can get yourself in a spot of bother in some countries if they find you with two passports!!

somuj · 03-01-2014 08:00AM

Eoin247 wrote: »

I believe he's talking about when you leave the country you must use the same passport. They stamp it to say you have left on such and such a date.

Cant remember the last time I had my passport stamped :P

MadsL · 03-01-2014 08:11AM

Mat the trasher wrote: »

You can get yourself in a spot of bother in some countries if they find you with two passports!!

Huh? Which ones?

Mat the trasher · 03-01-2014 08:16AM

Its not that its illegal, just they don't like it and might detain you for a question or two.

Sometimes travel with two Irish Passports.

MadsL · 03-01-2014 08:22AM

Mat the trasher wrote: »

Its not that its illegal, just they don't like it and might detain you for a question or two.

Sometimes travel with two Irish Passports.

How the hell do you have two?? And why?

MadsL · 03-01-2014 08:22AM

somuj wrote: »

Cant remember the last time I had my passport stamped :P

You need to get out (of the EU) more...

Mat the trasher · 03-01-2014 08:24AM

Split personality!!

Travel alot, need for visas etc.

MadsL · 03-01-2014 08:25AM

Mat the trasher wrote: »

Split personality!!

Travel alot, need for visas etc.

Ehhh? How do you have two concurrent Irish passports, is that possible?

Mat the trasher · 03-01-2014 08:27AM

Yes, you have to apply for them of coarse.

MadsL · 03-01-2014 08:29AM

Mat the trasher wrote: »

Yes, you have to apply for them of coarse.

The Irish state let you have two passports? Well paint me blue and call me a banana. I never knew that. Is there a special form?

SV · 03-01-2014 08:32AM

MadsL wrote: »

You need to get out (of the EU) more...

Sure everything good is in the EU

Mat the trasher · 03-01-2014 08:32AM

Believe it or not most of the people i spoke with at the pasport office were of the same opinion, no there's no form or box to tick on normal one. So I just applied with some cover letter, letter from my company and they issued it.

DoesNotCompute · 03-01-2014 08:34AM

Ty Dead Herb wrote: »

How do passports work? Say I lost a passport. Then got a new one. But the old one is still "looks" like a valid passport. Now I have two passports with an expiry date in 3 and 4 years respectively. Can I use the old one? Say i I fly to China. They scan my passport. How do they know it's cancelled. Just curious.

When you complete a passport application form, and your most recent passport was lost or stolen, you have to declare it in front of the Gardai in section 6 of the form.

When the Passport Office process your application, they will mark your previous passport as lost or stolen. The Passport Office share data on lost and stolen passports with Interpol.

If you subsequently find said lost passport, and attempt to enter China on it, the authorities there will lock you up in a Chinese holding cell, and you'll be in a world of hurt.

DoesNotCompute · 03-01-2014 08:38AM

MadsL wrote: »

The Irish state let you have two passports? Well paint me blue and call me a banana. I never knew that. Is there a special form?

Business people who travel around the world and use up the visa pages on their passport quickly can apply for a second "business" passport, if their company provide them with a letter requesting this.

Santa Cruz · 03-01-2014 08:39AM

MadsL wrote: »

Huh? Which ones?

You obviously would get away on the stupidity exemption clause.

MadsL · 03-01-2014 08:42AM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

You obviously would get away on the stupidity exemption clause.

Ermmm...that's nice. I expect you know the answer to everything so which countries forbid you to hold dual nationality of other countries?

MadsL · 03-01-2014 08:44AM

DoesNotCompute wrote: »

Business people who travel around the world and use up the visa pages on their passport quickly can apply for a second "business" passport, if their company provide them with a letter requesting this.

I thought you could get the passport 'extended' with more pages, but I do understand if your passport is constantly off getting visas stamped into it.

DoesNotCompute · 03-01-2014 10:08AM

MadsL wrote: »

I thought you could get the passport 'extended' with more pages

Years ago, yes, but not anymore.

DoesNotCompute · 03-01-2014 10:08AM

MadsL wrote: »

Ermmm...that's nice. I expect you know the answer to everything so which countries forbid you to hold dual nationality of other countries?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship#Dual_citizenship_by_region

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