Cannabis sales legal in Colorado as of tomorrow

EazyD wrote: »

Three times those prices

three times the $140(€100) or $200(€145)

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Compared to a weeks wage.

That's an ounce ffs. How much do you plan to smoke in week!!

P_1 wrote: »

Actually MadsL out of interest, what are your views on public cannabis smoking given your strong views on public tobacco smoking?

Public smoking of cannabis is still illegal in CO.

I'd say cannabis should follow similar laws as tobacco - not everyone wants their kids getting a facefull.

I was a bit shocked the other day - with friends passing Adderall around in front of kids and talking openly and loudly about the effects. My view is that just because it is legal it probably should not be on full display.


EDIT: Note there are still plenty of places where you can be arrested Federally for possession - National Forests being one, so it is still illegal to toke on the ski lift in many places.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Will be interesting to see by how much theft goes up next year in Colorado

Will be interesting to see how much theft goes down in the next year in Colorado

P_1 wrote: »

That's an interesting way of looking at it alright. I dunno, on the one hand educating people about the positive and negative effects of something is useful, on the other, perhaps kids haven't quite developed the critical thought needed to fully appreciate the education.

would the Netherlands not be the best place to study this/see what's happening

do their youth smoke as much as other countries, etc.

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batistuta9 wrote: »

would the Netherlands not be the best place to study this/see what's happening

do their youth smoke as much as other countries, etc.

Don't quote me on this but last time I looked into this I am pretty sure studies in the 90s said the Netherlands had a high percentage of youth cannabis consumption compared to other countries while more recent studies say the opposite.

Proponents argue this means that legalization will not dramatically increase usage by youth - if at all - since everybody can pretty much already get cannabis. Opponents argue that the Netherlands is a distinct system where it is legal to sell in coffee shops but illegal to grow it (or something like that, I don't know exact laws) so it is not the full legalization that groups like NORML in the US promote. They would say that if full legalization happened the prices would drop to such a level that the increased affordability would manly impact the youth who would not have much money to begin with.

Opponents point to studies in the US that show that most youth seek treatment for marijuana than any other drug already. Proponents argue that many of these people are not necessarily dependent but are put into treatment by parents.

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Im pretty sure I read before in certain States in the US, if a teenager is caught with Canabis, he/she can avoid a criminal record by going on a treatment programme

Yea I believe you are correct. I know in my state - before it was decriminalized anyway, I think it is just a ticket now - you would normally get 3-12 months of pretrial probation that could consist of random drug tests, curfews, narcotics anonymous, etc., with the charge ultimately being dismissed if you kept in line.

I am just not sure if they classify that as voluntary treatment or not because on one hand you are agreeing to do it but you also have the threat of more serious consequences even though most of that is just hot air.

The only ones who would fall for this anyway would be people that have other charges hanging over their heads or young kids that actually think they are going to lock somebody up for having some weed. The flip side is that many times the pretrial probation that was considered as a way to keep kids out of jail in the long run would ultimately end up with them in jail because they repeatedly fail the conditions of their probation.

Is that person in jail then solely because of marijuana or because they repeatably didn't agree to do what they had signed their name saying they would?

I was actually involved in all these type of diversion programs as a young punk and even my parents would agree that they do more harm than good. Saying that I don't see how the legalization - at least in the US - if it only includes people 21 and older solves this.

I personally think decriminalization and medical marijuana laws are enough. Full legalization is not really necessary if they are only targeting 21 and older because lets face it, what person other than a complete screw up or troublemaker gets caught with marijuana when they are over 21 unless they are driving around high or smoking it in public places? It would still be illegal to do this. I know there is individual cases that will disprove this but I am talking about in the big picture.

tdonegan1990 wrote: »

Probably a stupid question but do u have 2 be a citizen??

You only have be over 21. And what you buy cannot leave the state.

I know that here in Seattle, they plan on promoting the tourist aspect. Just like the vineyards do.

Come to Washington state and try the local produce.

"MadsL wrote: »

EDIT: Note there are still plenty of places where you can be arrested Federally for possession - National Forests being one, so it is still illegal to toke on the ski lift in many places.

There's actually no local federal lockup facilities, federal authorities would normally rely on local law enforcement for that.

Here in Washington state there are no longer any laws against possession so in the case of National Parks you would be just escorted out. I'm not sure about Colorado but I suspect its the same.

I could be wrong though. Its a transition time right now.

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Bull****, if you name a small time dealer who youngsters normally get it off, the guards dont give a feck

I've known it to happen,

Queues for it this morning. Gas!

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