Russell parts company with Gigginstown Stud?

carpothepunk · 31-12-2013 05:10PM #1

The mill, it is a churning.

ft9 · 31-12-2013 05:13PM

First I heard of it. Can't understand how Cooper isn't being snapped up.

carpothepunk · 31-12-2013 05:16PM

ft9 wrote: »

First I heard of it. Can't understand how Cooper isn't being snapped up.

Was mentioned this morning by my old boy, and I rubbished it, sure he had rides for them today. The mill is turning though, and I think he's gone with Coop going to number one jock.

SRFC · 31-12-2013 05:19PM

riding tomorrow for them so doubt it very much,they should give cooper the job.

nobody told me · 31-12-2013 05:24PM

It's been doing the rounds for two years... He doesn't get along with Eddie o Leary and his association with the youghal mafia doesn't help things I'd imagine. He's riding fairly poorly at the mo.

carpothepunk · 31-12-2013 05:28PM

Think this is slightly more substantial, to be honest. We shall see.

Harry Angstrom · 31-12-2013 05:34PM

All over the tweet machines, apparently.

Francie Barrett · 31-12-2013 05:37PM

If they're moving him on to bring Cooper in, then that's fair enough. As much as I rate Russell, Cooper has just been getting better and better.

UrbanSea · 31-12-2013 05:41PM

Just off the phone with a good source assures me cooper number one with a certain Magnier to ride second string

carpothepunk · 31-12-2013 05:42PM

Boards.ie racing forum with the big scoops.

jimjamcos · 31-12-2013 05:50PM

It's just another business decision for O'Leary at the end of the day. Cooper's the best (bar Ruby) so you buy the best to help you be the best. Smart move, if true.

SRFC · 31-12-2013 05:51PM

What im after hearing is O Leary didnt renew Russells contract and Cooper isnt getting the number one job townend is in for it im told.

MoscowFlyer · 31-12-2013 05:52PM

Pretty standard move iyam

Huntley · 31-12-2013 06:09PM

The Bryan Cooper hype train in full flow since he rode a couple of winners at the festival.

Good judge of pace but is still weak enough in a finish. Nowhere near the finished article and not even close to being the best outside of Ruby Walsh. Townend is better, only bad trait is that he messes about too much.

jimjamcos · 31-12-2013 06:14PM

Been confirmed by RacingPost.

ft9 · 31-12-2013 06:15PM

Can't see Townend leaving Mullins.

SRFC · 31-12-2013 06:17PM

Huntley wrote: »

The Bryan Cooper hype train in full flow since he rode a couple of winners at the festival.

Good judge of pace but is still weak enough in a finish. Nowhere near the finished article and not even close to being the best outside of Ruby Walsh. Townend is better, only bad trait is that he messes about too much.

Townend is the best jockey riding in the country bar Ruby,he will be champion everyyear when Ruby retires.

Doesnt russel have a big say in the bloodstock side of things with gigginstown and also what stable they go to?? not a shock move seen as he hasnt been riding winners but he hardly got any horses beaten that should of winning,O Leary is buying 3m slow maturing horses what kind of success does he expect.

STADEdeLUC · 31-12-2013 06:37PM

STADEdeLUC wrote: »

Love to see O'Leary give Russell the high road and take in Townsend

Good to see my wise words have been headed by Mr O'Leary time for change, Russell really grinds my gears, delighted to see him ousted, would love Townsend to get the NO1 slot

jimjamcos · 31-12-2013 06:42PM

STADEdeLUC wrote: »

Good to see my wise words have been headed by Mr O'Leary time for change, Russell really grinds my gears, delighted to see him ousted, would love Townsend to get the NO1 slot

Yep, O'Leary came on here to check your post before making the decision! :pac:

Russell wasn't going well lately but always came across as a sound fella imo.

Hulk Hands · 31-12-2013 06:55PM

The brilliance of these young jockeys is a but overstated at times. They can be excellent but they still have to add consistency and strength in the finish. Ruby, Carberry and Geraghty, as well as Russel are still ahead of them. Talented no question though, i'd have Townend slightly ahead of Cooper

Clonsuttonlad · 31-12-2013 06:57PM

What's the Youghal mafia?

Nice job for Gigginstown, whoever gets ot

BumperD · 31-12-2013 07:06PM

Davy comes across as straight talking and genuine. This will be a personal blow for him judging by his interviews on the road to cheltenham series, but no doubt he will bounce back stronger for it. Tough game at times. Lot of up and coming talent.

Francie Barrett · 31-12-2013 07:17PM

Huntley wrote: »

The Bryan Cooper hype train in full flow since he rode a couple of winners at the festival.

Ludicrous statement. He's clearly a top, top jockey in the making. You only need to look at the performances on Benefficient to see that. Both Walsh and McCoy got cracks on this one, but it was Cooper who was getting the wins, often at big prices and against quality opposition.

Huntley · 31-12-2013 07:33PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Ludicrous statement. He's clearly a top, top jockey in the making. You only need to look at the performances on Benefficient to see that. Both Walsh and McCoy got cracks on this one, but it was Cooper who was getting the wins, often at big prices and against quality opposition.

The only ludicrous statements are from those suggesting he is the best outside of Ruby Walsh, etc. Saying he is overhyped doesn't mean I think he isn't a good jockey in the making.

People who have seen him win a race at a big festival lose the run of themselves. Coincidentally, his rides on Benefficient which you are referring to.

michael thomas · 31-12-2013 07:34PM

Davy will do well even without gigginstown. An excellent jokey and all the best to him!! Agree with the point made about O'Leary buying slow 3m horses who need time to develop and expecting instant success. Davy hasnt lost on any horses that should have won. I think he did great to get some of them to finish 2nd and 3rd!

nevis7 · 31-12-2013 07:37PM

warming the body after a cold day at punchestown. a very close associate of eddie o leary tells me they may not appoint a stable jockey in the short term. he said ruby wants to ride the o leary horses at mullins yard, including sir des champs. I would guess that cooper will ride the hughes o leary horses, and the best available will ride on a race to race basis.

where to for Russell? will still ride for byrnes and martin, outside of those two his opportunities as a free lance will be limited unless the likes of lynch got injured and he then could be a runner for the potts job.

UrbanFret · 31-12-2013 07:41PM

Magnier as no 2 has to be a joke. If they wanted an amateur as no 2 Surely jane mangan deserved that spot.

Hulk Hands · 31-12-2013 07:42PM

^^

I'm in a good mood now to go out on the piss

Andalucia · 31-12-2013 07:48PM

this is was coming with a while, if anyone was watching the RTE racing coverage on the 26th Dec, before the handicap hurdle which Russell won on Sea Light for Byrnes, the two betting afficiandos, Gleeson and Lee were having a private laugh as to why Russell was not riding the Gigginstown horse. All was not well for some time.

BumperD · 31-12-2013 07:49PM

Met him at 2 Cheltenham previews, came across well. He fooled me.

mountai · 31-12-2013 08:02PM

STADEdeLUC wrote: »

Good to see my wise words have been headed by Mr O'Leary time for change, Russell really grinds my gears, delighted to see him ousted, would love Townsend to get the NO1 slot

You seem to take a particular delight in Russells fall from grace. I think you are one sad basterd.!!!!!

Russell parts company with Gigginstown Stud?

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