Leopardstown 29th Dec

STADEdeLUC · 29-12-2013 10:44PM

Love to see O'Leary give Russell the high road and take in Townsend

hucklebuck · 29-12-2013 11:43PM

STADEdeLUC wrote: »

Love to see O'Leary give Russell the high road and take in Townsend

I would keep Russell instead of Townend, anyway Cooper is far better than Townend and is next in line.

Harry Angstrom · 29-12-2013 11:53PM

Being second jockey to Willie Mullins is probably better than being first jockey to most trainers and owners.

d-gal · 30-12-2013 12:14AM

Watched replay of the Ryanair. Anyone that doesn't see The Fly destroying the opposition needs their head examined. He travelled so easy and was way better than Jezki and Our Conor. Our Conor may improve but Jezki has no hope against him come March. Simply an incredible performance

Clonsuttonlad · 30-12-2013 12:57AM

I said here more than most that HF was finished. His performance today was his most impressive yet. He cantored over them, wasn't even hard ridden.

oPATCHo · 30-12-2013 01:36AM

Just watched the race again myself.

Jekzi would have been 1-2L close if he didnt get closed in by Our Conor, however he's jumping is too ropey to be anywhere near in contention for the CH in March. I think that's the closest we'll we Jekzi come to The Fly. So out of the 'Five', he's out.

That was Our Conor's first trip over hurdles for some time, so I'd expect some improvement between now and March but I still can't see him beating off the remaining 3 (MOTY, The Fly, TNO)

I really like TNO, and feel that the key to victory will be the jockey. You know that both Ruby and AP will give good rides on The Fly and MTOY in March... TNO has the potential to win, but I'm hearing way too many excuses from the Jockey atm, I hope Sam will have sorted out his tactics and give TNO a good ride in March

I've already gone in with TNO and The Fly ante-post. If it comes up soft in March, then The Fly will be difficult to beat.

mdwexford · 30-12-2013 03:56AM

d-gal wrote: »

Watched replay of the Ryanair. Anyone that doesn't see The Fly destroying the opposition needs their head examined.

Why do people make such over the top statements.

nobody told me · 30-12-2013 09:58AM

With danny Mullins riding our conor round chelt, our conor is going to need to be 5-7lb better than hurricane fly on the day.

mr.jingle · 30-12-2013 03:41PM

I wouldnt rule any of them out at the moment, I would wait until the Irish Champion hurdle to pass judgement on the Irish raiders. I dont like comparing eras but this lot remind of a few yrs ago and at the moment Jezki looks like he could be similiar to macs joy as just below the best but will mop up other grade 1's around. In HF you have battle hardened champion a la Hardy Eustace, OC as Brave Inca not ready yet but potentially a future champion. MTOY has the potential to be a new Harchibald and come there swinging at the last but whether he goes through with his effort remains to be seen. The New One is an added bonus and potential fly in the ointment, will relish the test of the hill again. The picture will become a bit clearer over the next month and a half but ruling horses out at the moment is madness. Jezki is the least likely to me but if he got that close again in the Irish Champion he couldnt be ruled out

jimjamcos · 30-12-2013 03:48PM

mr.jingle wrote: »

I wouldnt rule any of them out at the moment, I would wait until the Irish Champion hurdle to pass judgement on the Irish raiders. I dont like comparing eras but this lot remind of a few yrs ago and at the moment Jezki looks like he could be similiar to macs joy as just below the best but will mop up other grade 1's around. In HF you have battle hardened champion a la Hardy Eustace, OC as Brave Inca not ready yet but potentially a future champion. MTOY has the potential to be a new Harchibald and come there swinging at the last but whether he goes through with his effort remains to be seen. The New One is an added bonus and potential fly in the ointment, will relish the test of the hill again. The picture will become a bit clearer over the next month and a half but ruling horses out at the moment is madness. Jezki is the least likely to me but if he got that close again in the Irish Champion he couldnt be ruled out

In fairness to Jezki, he's definitely more genuine than the bould Harchibald.

mr.jingle · 30-12-2013 03:57PM

jimjamcos wrote: »

In fairness to Jezki, he's definitely more genuine than the bould Harchibald.

I compared MTOY to Harchibald, comes there swinging but doesnt look like he'll put it all in. Done well last wk but sure so did Harchibald the yr he won it.

jimjamcos · 30-12-2013 04:10PM

mr.jingle wrote: »

I compared MTOY to Harchibald, comes there swinging but doesnt look like he'll put it all in. Done well last wk but sure so did Harchibald the yr he won it.

Sorry, read that totally wrong. I do think that even MTOY is a lot stronger in a battle than Harchibald though.

Gringo180 · 30-12-2013 06:13PM

Surprised to see Captain Cee Bee only beaten 10 lengths :eek: Really was a messy messy run race.

bit of a bogey · 01-01-2014 09:43PM

Watched replay of the Ryanair. Anyone that doesn't see The Fly destroying the opposition needs their head examined.

mdwexford wrote: »

Why do people make such over the top statements.

I don't know. To get your head examined might be a bit much. Incredible price last Sunday with 11/8 available in the ring but I'd still have my reservations about Cheltenham. He is the champ and the one they all have to beat but he's no certainty for me.

Can't believe Katie Walsh wasn't even called in to explain on Yes Sir Brian in the bumper though!

ft9 · 01-01-2014 11:07PM

From my memory of the race, I haven't seen a replay, I thought Katie was struggling to get the horse around the bend, he looked like he was going to run off.

BangBeater · 02-01-2014 12:05AM

ft9 wrote: »

From my memory of the race, I haven't seen a replay, I thought Katie was struggling to get the horse around the bend, he looked like he was going to run off.

Just had a look at replay on atr website out of interest.

You're spot on I think. Horse didn't handle the bend all that well and Katie was struggling to steer him around properly. Nothing to see here.

Nice winner also that Value At Risk.

hucklebuck · 02-01-2014 12:10AM

BangBeater wrote: »

Just had a look at replay on atr website out of interest.

You're spot on I think. Horse didn't handle the bend all that well and Katie was struggling to steer him around properly. Nothing to see here.

There was a horse outside YSB and YSB did not seem to interfere with it, the horse nearly did a wheelie she had such a massive pull of the reigns until he had gone from the front to behind the others, he had to be checked when running up the arse of Fort Smith, very odd ride in my book.

SRFC · 02-01-2014 12:11AM

The jockey on fortsmith is to be avoided at all costs anyways,will back it with a jockey next time.

bit of a bogey · 02-01-2014 01:58AM

UrbanSea wrote: »

Why would they back the life out of the horse and stop it

Wouldnt have thought anyone did back the life out of it? 9/2 - 5/1 were commonly available which was a very fair price.

UrbanSea · 02-01-2014 09:07AM

bit of a bogey wrote: »

Wouldnt have thought anyone did back the life out of it? 9/2 - 5/1 were commonly available which was a very fair price.

I was on about fort Smith

ste2010 · 02-01-2014 10:52AM

UrbanSea wrote: »

I was on about fort Smith

Because of Elliot's wink on RTE the day before..conning the life out of the public suggesting it might go well when asked

BangBeater · 02-01-2014 12:48PM

hucklebuck wrote: »

There was a horse outside YSB and YSB did not seem to interfere with it, the horse nearly did a wheelie she had such a massive pull of the reigns until he had gone from the front to behind the others, he had to be checked when running up the arse of Fort Smith, very odd ride in my book.

Or a just a bad ride...

Leopardstown 29th Dec

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