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Getting a lickin

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  • #32
    JacquesDeLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 969 ✭✭✭JacquesDeLad


    There are lot's of way of punishing adults without putting them in prison, but it's there as a last resort.


  • #33
    poundapunnet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭poundapunnet


    Got a few smacks but I really did deserve them and it was a rare occurrence, my mam used to threaten us with the wooden spoon alright but neither of my parents ever actually used a weapon. I'm fairly sure my granny wasn't kidding about the wooden spoon but thankfully I was faster than her. She did get me across the back of the legs with a hairbrush a couple of times though and I really wasn't even being that bold.

    But I mean my parents were generally very loving and patient, in that wider context the odd smack for serious misbehaviour is fine,it gets the point across. Routinely or severely beating a child is a completely different thing.


  • #34
    Toby Take a Bow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    UCDVet wrote: »
    It's only ironic or hypocritical if you hold the belief that violence is always wrong. I don't, so it is neither for me. Unprovoked violence is wrong. Inappropriate violence is wrong.

    That's true, but I would be of the belief that beating a child for any reason is unprovoked and inappropriate violence. I would agree with you re our legal system: the emphasis should be on reforming the person rather than just punishing them for the sake of punishment.


  • #35
    JacquesDeLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 969 ✭✭✭JacquesDeLad


    I had a 'metre stick' broken over me when I was in Primary School.

    I was actually proud of it at the time.

    He was some sadistic bastard of a teacher to do that, now I look back. 4th class, what's that 9-10 years old?


  • #36
    rolliepoley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,871 ✭✭✭rolliepoley


    JacquesDeLad wrote: »
    I had a 'metre stick' broken over me when I was in Primary School.

    I was actually proud of it at the time.

    He was some sadistic bastard of a teacher to do that, now I look back. 4th class, what's that 9-10 years old?

    Say hello to bata.


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  • #37
    Mr Viking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Mr Viking


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I got a few. All well deserved and I'm glad I got them. Not sure why everyone seems to think it's so bad these days.

    I agree, wooden spoon from mam and leather belt from dad growing up and it did me no harm! It's the decline in corporal punishment in the home that has a large number of teenagers spoilt, unruly brats.


  • #38
    IamtheWalrus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    Regardless of the circumstances, I don't want to live in a society where violence against children is not an act punishable by prison. The tired old 'it never did me any harm' line irritates me. Just because you don't realise the harm it did, doesn't mean there was none.


  • #39
    FairytaleGirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭FairytaleGirl


    Out of curiosity, how many posting here have kids?

    In my opinion (and experience) there's nothing wrong with discipline (including an odd smack). To reiterate another poster - did me no harm.
    Although there is difference in being disciplined with an odd slap and being battered on the regular.

    My younger siblings grew up without being disciplined much and the difference between me and my brother and the two younger ones was unreal. Both younger ones went completely off the rails in their teen's. And neither have respect for my parents now.

    It's always easy to spot a child/teen that was never disciplined. They usually have zero respect for anyone.


  • #40
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Creeks terms wrote: »
    Anyone ever get a lickin with a strap growing up

    You must be ancient if you were brought up in Little House on the Prairie?


  • #41
    Mr Viking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Mr Viking


    anncoates wrote: »
    You must be ancient if you were brought up in Little House on the Prairie?

    I think OP is an American, hence the "licking with a strap" line!


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  • #42
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    I don't think kids should be hit, I got the wooden spoon once as a child, on the (covered) ass when I was stealing food meant for later.

    It's not really a torture weapon, soft wood on cloth. It smarts for 3 seconds. But in general kids need the same protection in law as adults. We can't hit adults.


  • #43
    anotherposter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭anotherposter


    Creeks terms wrote: »
    In Ireland they favour the wooden spoon, especially Irish Mammys! In the US it was the belt to your rear end! I got it and so did practically all the kids in my neighbourhood.

    i bet you have a strange fetish for bondage now


  • #44
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Saying 'it did me no harm' might not make this statement true. People who say this believe hitting children is acceptable. Maybe this belief is the harm that was done. The abused sometimes end up being abusers.


  • #45
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    My ma gave me a occasional tap on the arse with a slipper and now I torture animals, can't hold down a job and beat people up all the time.


  • #46
    Plazaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    "The Sally Rod" was weapon of choice in my house, many a clip across the back of the legs I got with it and probably deservedly so, as I could be a wee bástard whn younger. I remember when I was about 9 years of age I set fire to some newspapers and a nearby hedge caught on fire. My granny who was 70+ at the time chased me with the sally rod and the fecker caught up with me. Must have been an olympian in her day.

    It did leave me with a psychological issue, I respected my elders and still do to this day unlike come of the little pond scum that run wild these days with the blessing of the do gooders mantra "corporal punishment only harms". As with previous posts, obviously going around kicking 7 colours of shíte out of a kid everyday is not discipline just abuse. "The Sally Rod" was often threatened but rarely used but when it was it was an effective deterent.


  • #47
    AndonHandon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    Toby Take a Bow wrote: »
    That's true, but I would be of the belief that beating a child for any reason is unprovoked and inappropriate violence. I would agree with you re our legal system: the emphasis should be on reforming the person rather than just punishing them for the sake of punishment.

    Punishing for the sake of punishing is required if the victims of crime are to be vindicated. It's all well and good preaching the merits of reform and how it works better for society in the long run but in reality the victim will want to see punishment being handed down for the mere sake of it. Obviously reform should be the main emphasis but victims need to see that they are not being ignored by their justice system. That could have worse consequences than not even attempting to reform the criminal.

    The point is that the world is not black and white. People are not perfect. The occasional clip of your child's ear or slap on the bottom when you are at your wit's end maybe necessary. There are so many aspects to consider but mainly if the message is to educate the child (don't throw food at the dinner table, for example) and the parent loves their child then, exhausting all other avenues, a clip across the ear may be necessary.


  • #48
    Rachiee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Rachiee


    Theres been loads of research to show that corporal punishment doesnt work as well as things like time out. Most of the time the child just feels hurt and unloved and is too upset to even remember what they did to deserve it. IMO its lazy parenting and barbaric to boot. Most of the time parents who slap do so in anger and frustration.


  • #49
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Rachiee wrote: »
    Theres been loads of research to show that corporal punishment doesnt work as well as things like time out.

    There has also been loads of research that shows that it does work.


  • #50
    Polka_Dot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Polka_Dot


    Rachiee wrote: »
    Theres been loads of research to show that corporal punishment doesnt work as well as things like time out. Most of the time the child just feels hurt and unloved and is too upset to even remember what they did to deserve it. IMO its lazy parenting and barbaric to boot. Most of the time parents who slap do so in anger and frustration.

    Yeah I got the odd slap as a child or got a fierce giving out to, but all I remember is how scared it made me feel, not what I'd actually done wrong.


  • #51
    Mr Viking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Mr Viking


    I think the vast majority of parents out there who use corporal punishment love their kids and are not abusers. What works in disciplining one child may not necessarily work for another. The fact is some kids just need a belt to their arse every now and then to keep them on the straight and narrow!


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  • #52
    IamtheWalrus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    Mr Viking wrote: »
    The fact is some kids just need a belt to their arse every now and then to keep them on the straight and narrow!

    It most certainly is not a fact.


  • #53
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    IamtheWalrus wrote: »
    It most certainly is not a fact.

    I would say that at times it most certainty is.


  • #54
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Got a fair few cracks of the wooden spoon as a young lad.

    The worst came as a result of one evenings televison viewing in my room. Remember that Dublin based drama called 'Family', featuring a couple of strong riding scenes with Sean McGinley in the lead role as Charlo. Well I was watching that in the room one night when the aul lad got wind of it.

    In he stormed and I had no defense as Charlo went to the back axels on some dear. The wooden spoon was dished out in generous doses followed by a couple of body shots. No complaints from me, but hardly worth it for Sean McGinleys milky arse. I'll mention it to him if I ever meet him.


  • #55
    Mr Viking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Mr Viking


    Aidric wrote: »
    Got a fair few cracks of the wooden spoon as a young lad.

    And do you feel your better off for having recieved it? I was a complete ****e growing up and deserved all the hidings I got!


  • #56
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Mr Viking wrote: »
    And do you feel your better off for having recieved it? I was a complete ****e growing up and deserved all the hidings I got!

    Absolutely, fully deserved it.


  • #57
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Mr Viking wrote: »

    And do you feel your better off for having recieved it? I was a complete ****e growing up and deserved all the hidings I got!

    You got off lightly if all you got for pillage and rape was a smack with a spoon.


  • #58
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Got a smack on the clothed arse or hand as a last resort if I was being absolutely impossible - which is the very same as being beaten black and blue of course.

    People who say awful things like an otherwise great parent lightly smacking their child on the bum, is a bad parent, doesn't love their kid etc... seem dreadful themselves.


  • #59
    Fox_In_Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Got a smack on the clothed arse or hand as a last resort if I was being absolutely impossible - which is the very same as being beaten black and blue of course.

    People who say awful things like an otherwise great parent lightly smacking their child on the bum, is a bad parent, doesn't love their kid etc... seem dreadful themselves.

    Quiet you, or I'll give you the wooden spoon!:mad:


  • #60
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Got some of the strap, plenty of the metre stick and once 33 whacks of a golf club on the arse for selling cigatettes. This was in boarding school in the 60s. Ah, the good ol' days.


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  • #61
    Creeks terms
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7 ✭Creeks terms


    Mr Viking wrote: »
    I think the vast majority of parents out there who use corporal punishment love their kids and are not abusers. What works in disciplining one child may not necessarily work for another. The fact is some kids just need a belt to their arse every now and then to keep them on the straight and narrow!

    I couldn't disagree more! Kids never need, "a belt to their arse every now and then" as you put it. Speaking from experience it's never appropriate and there's always a better way. Any parent who thinks this the right way to discipline should be locked up!


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