Full dole recipients to get €10.15 an hour - seen as slave labour

Why do people lucky enough to have a job always take it out on the most vulnerable in society, the government really do love a divided nation, sure take it out on the people who are on the dole instead of the fat cats who have the country in the mess its in. Some people just sicken me.

I'm no Steven Hawkins but isn't 20 euro for 20 hours work actually 1 euro per hour?

Value Hunter wrote: »

Minimum wage in america is $8 which is roughly €5.85

Which has absolutely no significance here whatsoever.

Value Hunter wrote: »

Surprised I haven't seen any other threads on this

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dole-recipients-to-get-extra-20-a-week-for-20-hours-of-council-work-29863105.html

€10.15 an hour! - I know plenty who would take that with both hands!

Really sums up peoples attitudes when its seen as slave labour - as per the comments under the article

Even for under 25s - €123 a week for 20 hours work, I don't think €6.15 an hour is exactly slave labour.

Minimum wage in america is $8 which is roughly €5.85

Not to mention all the other benefits given when on social welfare - i.e rent allowance - getting your rent payed even though you don't work

I'm all for helping those in need, but paying for EVERYTHING someone needs, and allowing them not to work for it



Well whats the point in working???

Seriously its Christmas eve, is that whats bothering you?

Value Hunter wrote: »

As opposed to Ireland where you can sit on your ass and be better of than people who work

What are you talking about? There is no single person on the dole better off than a single person that works, that is just a ridiculous thing to say.

On one hand I agree with a scheme like this, but not if it gets in the way of furthering the recipients chances of up-skilling themselves, searching for a job (I worked on a project with my college after I was out of work for a time and it definitely impacted on my job search, I stopped helping and two weeks later started getting interviews again!) and I also disagree with how it's implemented, I like the idea but the execution is probably going to be poor, as it is/was for Job Bridge.

I think the government / councils could offer positions such as these when they are available to people on SW who are interested in doing manual work (or have experience in it) but they shouldn't be paid less than another person who is doing the job, it should be treated as a "graduate" role / trainee / apprenticeship.

They could certainly offer a more reasonable level of pay for the work, as I don't think the government should be essentially paying less than traditional minimum wage which this essentially is.

How does this scheme impact the jobs that are there, are some being converted into this position or is it a case of extra roles being created?

Workers who refuse to engage in the initiative face the prospect of social welfare payments being reduced, or having payments suspended.

It should definitely be a voluntary scheme, or for those who have turned down all other approaches or who aren't actively seeking a job (of course the implementation of this is probably impossible / cost prohibitive).

Bah, it's a bad idea and will just drive more people out of the country, which is a shame as I'm sure there are some positions being offered that have a useful skill set that could lead to jobs.