Carnivores and sourcing meat.....

cantdecide · 20-12-2013 02:34PM

mikhail wrote: »

martinedwards wrote: »

a rant of mine.

If you are going to use indoor plumbing, then you should acknowledge that it sends ****e through pipes.

I know folks who wont sit on ****e-covered toilets because they look like they're covered in ****e.

Really? that's because they are covered in ****e!!

I have a pal who won't fix his house's plumbing because it's smelly and disgusting (obviously never worked in a sewage treatment plant! evil-smelling buggers they are!) but is happy to **** in a toilet because they aren't so smelly.

PERSONALLY, I think that everyone who uses indoor plumbing should, at least once in their life, have to unblock a pipe that's backed up with hardened ****e (or even some disposable nappies and a rat's nest).

I've dug a hole and **** in it, I've cleared drains and cleaned a toilet off with bleach, I've cleaned out duck-houses, Turkeys' pens and chicken coops on my parents farm, and I fully respect the fact that I am shovelling ****.

and remember, while a dog is for life, a turkey is for Christmas, although the left overs might block the u-bend!

I didn't realise that poop was a living being that we captured, farmed and slaughtered for food.

El_Dangeroso · 20-12-2013 02:39PM

I agree with you OP, but vegetarians should also be made to chop some baby birds up with a combine and spray some pesticides on insects (for some reason care for animals doesn't extend to insects for some reason.).

I do think meat eaters need to be more responsible for where their meat comes from though. Meat nowadays is suspiciously cheap. A whole chicken should not cost 5 euro.

mikhail · 20-12-2013 02:40PM

Some people just aren't passionate enough about poop.

cantdecide · 20-12-2013 02:43PM

mikhail wrote: »

Some people just aren't passionate enough about poop.

3 rules of plumbing according to me Da.
-Poop won't flow uphill
-You can't fit a six inch poop down a four inch pipe
-Keep your fingers away from your mouth while you're working

Mint Aero · 20-12-2013 02:50PM

Yeah great idea OP :rolleyes: a bunch of townies trying to decapitate a chicken, skin a rabbit, slaughter a cow, gut a fish etc :rolleyes: I wouldn't trust half of them to cook their turkeys properly this year never mind kill an animal efficiently.

Gannicus · 20-12-2013 02:58PM

Captain Farrell wrote: »

Have to say agree with the OP, all meat eaters should kill and prepare an animal at least once.

o1s1n wrote: »

Why? What would it achieve?

Cheaper meat prices. Go out buy a turkey, raise it, hang by its feet, hug its wings then snap its neck.

Maximus Alexander · 20-12-2013 03:06PM

Everyone who uses a car should have to construct one from scratch, drill oil from the Earth, and refine it into petrol at least once in their lives.

kowloon · 20-12-2013 03:18PM

I got called some serious names once by a girl in a club when a friend of mine mentioned that I hunted. She would have no problem buying caged hen eggs or intensively farmed chicken, but mention that you shot a wild rabbit and all hell broke loose. I have far fewer issues with a vegetarian who disapproves of this than a giant hypocrite who sees meat as something that magically appears in a packet.

mikhail · 20-12-2013 03:27PM

kowloon wrote: »

I got called some serious names once by a girl in a club when a friend of mine mentioned that I hunted. She would have no problem buying caged hen eggs or intensively farmed chicken, but mention that you shot a wild rabbit and all hell broke loose. I have far fewer issues with a vegetarian who disapproves of this than a giant hypocrite who sees meat as something that magically appears in a packet.

Yeah, that's fair. I think people like that conflate all hunting, so the legitimate concerns over the cruelty involved in something like fox hunting.

o1s1n · 20-12-2013 03:38PM

Big Steve wrote: »

Cheaper meat prices. Go out buy a turkey, raise it, hang by its feet, hug its wings then snap its neck.

Time = money. The time involved in doing the above would counter any savings I would get in return.

Captain Farrell's post and some of the others appeared to be coming from some sort of moral high ground - that if you eat meat, you must see first hand all of the preparation which goes into readying it for your plate. Only then are you 'deserving' of it's consumption.

Like it's some kind of right of passage.

ScumLord · 20-12-2013 03:54PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Time = money. The time involved in doing the above would counter any savings I would get in return.

Captain Farrell's post and some of the others appeared to be coming from some sort of moral high ground - that if you eat meat, you must see first hand all of the preparation which goes into readying it for your plate. Only then are you 'deserving' of it's consumption.

Like it's some kind of right of passage.

It's not so much a right of passage as gaining an appreciation for what goes into making your food. In the past people would see chickens in their cities and wouldn't have been completely disconnected from their food. I think the modern world is corrupted with ignorance on many subjects that we're effectively in control of through our purchasing habits. We don't have any responsibility when it comes to buying things.

mfceiling · 20-12-2013 04:08PM

I can't even walk past a field, without running in to it and licking a cow...

kowloon · 20-12-2013 04:21PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Time = money. The time involved in doing the above would counter any savings I would get in return.

It's not worth it if you don't have a few, you need to house them and the feed isn't cheap if you don't buy in bulk. You also need a bit of space.

Then there's the issue of getting attached to your Turkey. I'd rather eat something I haven't named and kept care of for an extended period. You do get attached to the feckers.

Stressica · 20-12-2013 05:16PM

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Riamfada · 20-12-2013 05:27PM

Everyone who uses an iPhone should become a small asian child and work for no money in near slave labour conditions. Bloody townies.

rubadub · 20-12-2013 05:32PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Why? What would it achieve?

I don't get it either. It'd be like saying anyone who uses a toilet should work in the sewers for a day to see what its really like, you sitting there all cozy reading the paper taking a dump "without acknowledging what really goes on".

ScumLord · 20-12-2013 05:37PM

rubadub wrote: »

I don't get it either. It'd be like saying anyone who uses a toilet should work in the sewers for a day to see what its really like, you sitting there all cozy reading the paper taking a dump "without acknowledging what really goes on".

I think half the problem with society today is that people are completely ignorant of how things actually work, they expect results no matter how unlikely or pointless it may be to even attempt. I'm including myself in the people that are ignorant of how things actually work.

In a democratic society we should surely have some idea of the ins and outs of what we're voting on and encouraging through our purchases. We're all being lead around like cattle at the moment.

Carnivores and sourcing meat.....

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