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Lostprophets singer admits to being a baby rapist

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  • #422
    snausages
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    35 years

    http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-12-18/lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-sentenced/


  • #423
    Xavi6
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    35 year sentence, that'll do. Will serve a minimum of 29.


  • #424
    Daqster
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    14 and 17 years for the mothers.

    These sentences, while I wouldn't argue are deserved, sure do seem to be inconsistent with what would be the norm for such crimes, no?

    I mean, child killers I've seen get less than 35 years.


  • #425
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    He won't be considered for release until at least his mid-60s.

    Lovely-jovely.


  • #426
    Cantona's Collars
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    To the last minutes he was unrepentent,that nice long sentence should give him time to think about his crimes.
    Wonder how he'll feel while he's being a victim of sex crimes for the next 30 odd years.


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  • #427
    Mental Mickey
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    Knacker


  • #428
    MonstaMash
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    Odds on him living long enough to complete his sentence...


  • #429
    therealme
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    May he and all those like him rot in hell! Poor innocent little children.


  • #430
    Grayditch
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    He won't be alive for too long.


  • #431
    mike65
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    Grayditch wrote: »
    He won't be alive for too long.

    he'll be in a special unit I imagine. That may not save him though.


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  • #432
    Reiketsu
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    Glad to see such a harsh sentence. There were reports today that he admitted his guilt to spare the court such a harrowing trail. Not only that but he allegedly told someone the abuse was all "mega lolz". Aye, ****ing hilarious.


  • #433
    IamtheWalrus
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    Fascinating character.


  • #434
    bullvine
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    I have to say, I'm a little shocked by the sentence, especially considering he pleaded guilty not that he didn't deserve it, just going on what others have gotten in the past.

    We could do with that kind of sentencing over here!


  • #435
    PropJoe10
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    http://www.nme.com/news/lostprophets/74493

    Not laughing now, Watkins. He wont survive long in prison I'd say.


  • #436
    Da Shins Kelly
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    bullvine wrote: »
    I have to say, I'm a little shocked by the sentence, especially considering he pleaded guilty not that he didn't deserve it, just going on what others have gotten in the past.

    We could do with that kind of sentencing over here!

    The publicity surrounding the case probably had something to do with it.

    I suspect he'll be kept in solitary confinement for his own safety? Wouldn't be surprised if he committed suicide either though.


  • #437
    SEPT 23 1989
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    I presume he is off to Broadmoor


  • #438
    Muff_Daddy
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    zerks wrote: »
    Wonder how he'll feel while he's being a victim of sex crimes for the next 30 odd years.

    An indivudal as clearly depraved as Ian Watkins would most likely get a sick pleasure from it.

    Horrific story, may the Ian and the two 'mothers' rot for the remainder of their lives. Oxygen thieves all.


  • #439
    Amirani
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    Sentences were pretty much as expected. These three individuals are too much of a threat to society to not be incarcerated for a considerable period of time.


  • #440
    Irish Guitarist
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    I had their first two CDs but I threw them in the bin the other night. I can't imagine ever enjoying listening to them again knowing what the sick bastard did.


  • #441
    Amirani
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    Irish Guitarist wrote: »
    I had their first two CDs but I threw them in the bin the other night. I can't imagine ever enjoying listening to them again knowing what the sick bastard did.

    Gotta feel terrible for the other band members. Everything they've spent years working for has been forever tarnished because of one depraved individual.


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  • #442
    seanin4711
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    NiallSparky wrote: »
    Gotta feel terrible for the other band members. Everything they've spent years working for has been forever tarnished because of one depraved individual.

    You mean they knew nothing about Watkins?
    Surely had some suspicion he was nuts.


  • #443
    supersean1999
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    35 yrs Thats about fair .hopefully he dies in jail. One thing crossed my mind is How many years Would The sicko get in this panzy state prob 8-10 years and out in 6. Certainly not à 35 yrs anyway


  • #444
    D-FENS
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    I presume he is off to Broadmoor

    I don't think they played the psychiatric card with him,
    Wakefield I would say, that's the one for most of the sexual predators (Monster Mansion)


  • #445
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    seanin4711 wrote: »
    You mean they knew nothing about Watkins?
    Surely had some suspicion he was nuts.

    We all know someone who's a bit nuts, that doesn't mean we all know someone who's a depraved child molester.

    Your implying that the band members had some knowledge or suspicions about his actions without any evidence is pretty out of order to be honest.


  • #446
    Daqster
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    NiallSparky wrote: »
    Sentences were pretty much as expected.

    Expected because of media interest you mean?

    As I fail to see how these sentences could have been expected based on anything else.

    For example, in 2006, this UK couple raped a 12 week old baby they were babysitting, four times, took photos of it and she is now out and he is due for release next year.

    Again, wouldn't argue that the sentences weren't justified but they do seem to be far from what you would expect on past sentencing for such crimes.

    I would say he will appeal for sure, especially if his solicitor thinks he can show that the judge was influenced by how high profile the case was.


  • #447
    Amirani
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    supersean1999 wrote: »
    35 yrs Thats about fair .hopefully he dies in jail. One thing crossed my mind is How many years Would The sicko get in this panzy state prob 8-10 years and out in 6.

    You're either trying to be overly dramatic or else you don't have a clue what you're talking about.


  • #448
    PropJoe10
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    seanin4711 wrote: »
    You mean they knew nothing about Watkins?
    Surely had some suspicion he was nuts.

    How much do you know about the private lives of your work colleagues?


  • #449
    wonderfullife
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    This will be an unpopular opinion but those sentences are pretty much laughable.

    In the sense they are too harsh.

    They are grossly disproprtionate to the crimes under the application of the law.

    Whilst the crimes are abhorrent in nature, to my mind they are no less abhorrent than adult rape. Rape is rape.

    What signal does it send out to nonces, paedophiles and the like? It seems to send out the message you can sexually assault adults and expect 6-10 years but go near a baby and you're goosed.

    Hardly the message we want here. If it's gonna be 35 years for this then i'm going to be looking in earnest for the next adult rape offender in the same area to be getting 35.

    Once we start differentiating solely based on the age of the victim it's a slippery slope. Of course, the babies had no say in what happened to them. But that's effectively the same with rape of any age. It's a crime against your will.

    This sentence will be appealed (likely) and altered (almost certainly) downwards.

    Tougher sentences for all. Full stop.


  • #450
    Amirani
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    This will be an unpopular opinion but those sentences are pretty much laughable.

    In the sense they are too harsh.

    They are grossly disproprtionate to the crimes under the application of the law.

    Whilst the crimes are abhorrent in nature, to my mind they are no less abhorrent than adult rape. Rape is rape.

    What signal does it send out to nonces, paedophiles and the like? It seems to send out the message you can sexually assault adults and expect 6-10 years but go near a baby and you're goosed.

    Hardly the message we want here. If it's gonna be 35 years for this then i'm going to be looking in earnest for the next adult rape offender in the same area to be getting 35.

    Once we start differentiating solely based on the age of the victim it's a slippery slope. Of course, the babies had no say in what happened to them. But that's effectively the same with rape of any age. It's a crime against your will.

    This sentence will be appealed (likely) and altered (almost certainly) downwards.

    Tougher sentences for all. Full stop.

    There was more than one instance and more than one victim. Consecutive sentencing means it's not that difficult to reach 30 years.

    "He also admitted conspiring to rape a child, three counts of sexual assault involving children, seven involving taking, making or possessing indecent images of children and one of possessing an extreme pornographic image involving a sex act on an animal."


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  • #451
    Cantona's Collars
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    supersean1999 wrote: »
    35 yrs Thats about fair .hopefully he dies in jail. One thing crossed my mind is How many years Would The sicko get in this panzy state prob 8-10 years and out in 6. Certainly not à 35 yrs anyway

    Going by threads about sentences handed down here lately for sexual assault he'd have probably just been asked to pay a fine.


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