Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

Hagar the Nice. · 17-12-2013 11:06AM

Rumour time again,oh yes it is,Craig Bellamy in January on loan,why,I have no idea,probably to get bums on seats.

Hagar the Nice. · 17-12-2013 11:12AM

Then again Santa might be nice to us.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...indow.22972237

Alfred Finnbogason, the Heerenveen striker, has appeared to suggest that he would be open to a move to Celtic next month.

The Iceland internationalist was linked with a move to the Scottish champions during the summer, only for Celtic to baulk at a £5m fee.

The 24-year-old has since scored 13 goals in 14 appearances in the Eredivise this season but intimated yesterday that he would consider a move away from the Netherlands. Celtic might be convinced to rekindle their interest in a move, with the club having conceded that they need to add to their front line after an impoverished Champions League campaign.

When Finnbogason was asked about where his future might lie, he said: "England, Germany, Scotland . . . who knows? I just want to score goals, be it in Holland or somewhere else."

Dempsey · 17-12-2013 02:21PM

Imagine we signed him and he struggled for goals and Balde & Pukki then went on a Sutton/Larsson type rampage for the next 3 years! :pac:

Lennonist · 17-12-2013 03:45PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I'm well aware the banners were about that song, but comparing Wallace to Sands is just ridiculous, trying to equate Flower of Scotland to songs like Roll of Honour (which is apparently the biggest issue among some banned songs among the GB) is even more ridiculous.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. The banners hit the nail on the head in relation to the point they wanted to make.

However they knew they shouldn't have displayed them at a UEFA game in particular.

Antifa161 · 17-12-2013 04:03PM

We're playing in a friendly tournament in Turkey next January. We have Trabzonwhatever and the other 'semi final' is Galatasary and Ajax :eek:

Lennonist wrote: »

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. The banners hit the nail on the head in relation to the point they wanted to make.

However they knew they shouldn't have displayed them at a UEFA game in particular.

They shouldn't have been naive enough to think just because Barcelona are allowed do something, other clubs would be.

dundalkfc10 · 17-12-2013 05:08PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I'm well aware the banners were about that song, but comparing Wallace to Sands is just ridiculous, trying to equate Flower of Scotland to songs like Roll of Honour (which is apparently the biggest issue among some banned songs among the GB) is even more ridiculous.

McMahon has some neck to talk about impartiality, given his club allegiance which is pretty well known.
There is nothing to indicate that Christine Grahame wants the Bill in place so 'more Catholics' could be arrested, that's a pure victim mentality which has no place in a serious debate like the one about the Bill.

Apologies for going on about this

Explain how it is ridiculous?

Both are freedom fighters, both fought and died for their country.

The lost is pretty endless

Dempsey · 17-12-2013 06:14PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-25418578

Seven members of the Green Brigade group of Celtic fans are to stand trial next year for allegedly singing a song in support of the IRA.

They are alleged to have behaved in a way that "is likely or would be likely to incite public disorder" by singing the Roll of Honour at Celtic Park.

The singing is said to have taken place at various home games at Celtic Park in July and August.

All of the men pleaded not guilty when they appeared at Glasgow Sheriff Court.

Unless they have good, expensive, representation then they are fooked!

Antifa161 · 17-12-2013 06:27PM

Haven't judges laughed this stuff out of court in the past?

Of course now we have new legislation which has created a criminal offence out of it so it's a different story.

It's funny, I remember when we played Chelsea in London there was a large group of us making our way to the game singing this song, flanked by several Met Police who did not bat an eyelid or see it as a problem whatsoever. I think there's a video on Youtube actually!

It's ok to sing about ten German bombers and the like, but don't sing about some men starving themselves to death - that glorifies violence!

dundalkfc10 · 17-12-2013 06:42PM

Dempsey wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-25418578

Seven members of the Green Brigade group of Celtic fans are to stand trial next year for allegedly singing a song in support of the IRA.

Unless they have good, expensive, representation then they are fooked!

These lads were in court over a month ago and different media outlets randomly run this story now?

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/celtic-fan-who-sang-ira-song-is-cleared-of-football-offence.21190285

Cleared for singing ROH

Was also a case up the north that went to court and it was thrown out after 5 minutes.

It will be laughed all the way out of court

The precedent has already been set

Quote:
Sheriff Richard Davidson ruled during the trial last week that police officers could not give "opinion" evidence that the song was linked to proscribed terrorist organisations, and then described the new anti-sectarianism legislation McLeish was tried under as "horribly drafted".

Finding the 20-year-old not guilty, Sheriff Davidson added: "I've been attending football matches since 1957 and there is nothing I've seen in this particular case that would cause me the slightest concern.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-22097356

It's all about arrests though for the police and snp and looks like Celtic too, convictions don't interest these *****.

Their acquittals will be another embarrassment for this joke of a legislation.

Dempsey · 17-12-2013 06:53PM

Nothing random about it, a trial date was set today.

Still police will process people just to hit them in their pocket and drag their name through the gutter even if convictions arent likely

dundalkfc10 · 17-12-2013 07:14PM

Also very convenient that the thousands who sing this at Celtic park and at away games every week, They only caught 7 people and amazingly the 7 of them are in the GB

blahfckingblah · 17-12-2013 09:27PM

Antifa161 wrote: »

lol so it's ok for him to take personal shots at me and call me delusional etc but it's not ok to give it back? I don't see you jumping in to my defense when the bluenose lot are giving it either. Pathetic.

I assume youre a grown man.. If so then you shouldn't need someone to help you in your petty online arguments, especially when you're often the instigator.

Jelle1880 · 17-12-2013 09:40PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Explain how it is ridiculous?

Both are freedom fighters, both fought and died for their country.

The lost is pretty endless

In your opinion.

Antifa161 · 17-12-2013 09:43PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

I assume youre a grown man.. If so then you shouldn't need someone to help you in your petty online arguments, especially when you're often the instigator.

Seems you missed my point, as incredibly simple as it was. I'm not asking him to help defend me, in fact going by his posts I doubt he'd put together anything decent anyway. I'm pointing out his double standards. He'll ignore the many previous personal digs until it's me giving one. Very petty.

Hagar the Nice. · 17-12-2013 10:00PM

Celtic to play in a 4 team tourny in Turkey in January,Galatasarey,Traboznapor,and some Dutch mob who's fans are scum.

dundalkfc10 · 17-12-2013 10:24PM

Hagar the Nice. wrote: »

Celtic to play in a 4 team tourny in Turkey in January,Galatasarey,Traboznapor,and some Dutch mob who's fans are scum.

So much for cancelling a SPL game to give "players a rest"

All about the £££ which they wont spend.

Dempsey · 17-12-2013 10:42PM

I wonder how much Celtic charged for their appearance fee at this tournament. Cant see the first team players being happy unless Celtic are going sending out the squad players + development squad for it.

rosskind · 17-12-2013 11:01PM

I take all my board-defending back. :pac:

If this is true and we aren't just sending a youth team, then we better be getting paid a hell of a lot. Ridiculous stuff.

Hagar the Nice. · 17-12-2013 11:05PM

Dempsey wrote: »

I wonder how much Celtic charged for their appearance fee at this tournament. Cant see the first team players being happy unless Celtic are going sending out the squad players + development squad for it.

It will probably be £750 k or thereabouts I'd reckon.

rosskind wrote: »

I take all my board-defending back. :pac:

If this is true and we aren't just sending a youth team, then we better be getting paid a hell of a lot. Ridiculous stuff.

Its totally bonkers IMO,I can see the point if its pure season but nothing surprises me any more.

rosskind · 17-12-2013 11:15PM

I was delighted we'd managed to make ourselves a mini winter-break. Fatigue accumulates pretty quickly, and having been playing twice a week (or flying across the world for internationals) almost every week since July, the players could really have done with some rest.

Antifa161 · 18-12-2013 04:38PM

From KDS

Around this very week last year within the confines of Celtic Park it was let slip to myself that the club backed The Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012. At first it came as a shock and I waited on the punchline, then further details were given of how QC Paul McBride had advised Peter Lawwell and 'The Club' that they should back the Act. Today @MinogueTom has in one tweet exposed all that myself and certain others have known all along - http://t.co/n72XLcJQSv the truth always comes out, especially now as there is no hiding place from 'The Freedom Of Information'.

We were told not so long ago that the club 'backed' the fans in our campaign to see this Act smashed, this was a one-liner via another rushed and prompted 'Club Statement', they lied. Stories of internal meetings in which Celtic PLC staff gathered personal details of Celtic season ticket holders from Section 111 with a view to "getting rid of them" were denied as "untrue and false", they lied.

The myth and set up that was the 'Battle Of Dens Park' was a joint operation between Celtic, Police and Dundee FC. I sat during an 'evidence gathering' video production compiled by David Brannan and shown to myself and one other in the presence of Hawthorn and Lawwell on a projection screen in The Boardroom, at an estimate 90% of this video was focused footage of Section 111 and Green Brigade members, as the video finished we moved through to the 'meeting room' where tea was poured and Lawwell made a call to The Ticket Office Manager and asked for the "seating details of all season book holders from section 111 who have a ticket for Dens Park" , Dundee was the next away game (26/12/12) and it was clear he was planning something. Where the information went once he received it doesn't take a genius to work out, luckily probably around the same time it was also relayed to a Green Brigade member. There was no riot at Dens Park, there were no Celtic Supporters "urinating where they stood", there were no "scenes that harked back to the 70's" , Lawwell lied, again they lied. This is just one example of many instances and situations witnessed by myself of Celtic PLC's agenda against a section of our own support, The Green Brigade were kept a step ahead, that was only right, they were called liars, they never lied.

You have to wonder why our CEO was so hell bent on criminalising a section of our support, was it figures? Was it to justify 'The Act' at our end, was it a personal agenda against The Green Brigades' politics, displays, Ultra motives or the fact he couldn't control them? After all he described them to me as "neds and cancerous", make your own mind up, but there is one thing for sure, he lied.

So the PLC back the fans in our campaign against this legislation, really? As our supporters were 'kettled' in The Gallowgate, lifted from their homes in dawn raids, criminalised for songs that are not criminal, harassed, filmed, over searched, vilified in the media and somehow seen as a part scapegoat to a sectarian issues, just remember they backed it and they lied.

The PLC Board of Celtic Football Club need to remember one thing, we can replace you, you cannot replace us

It's fine though. Lawwell obviously had a premonition 12 months ago of Fir Park so his efforts to criminalise our fans and his bare faced lies to the support were all justified.

Hagar the Nice. · 18-12-2013 06:51PM

Antifa161 wrote: »

From KDS

It's fine though. Lawwell obviously had a premonition 12 months ago of Fir Park so his efforts to criminalise our fans and his bare faced lies to the support were all justified.

Lawwell is doing a great job emptying CP,soon he won't need stewarding or policing because there'll be nobody left to arrest.

Hagar the Nice. · 18-12-2013 08:16PM

“@Oranje_Live: Celtic coach Neil Lennon present to watch AZ v Heerenveen with Alfred Finnbogason the target.”
Bit late now.:(

blahfckingblah · 18-12-2013 08:27PM

very dodgy goings on in the boardrooms of both glasgow clubs at the minute

dundalkfc10 · 18-12-2013 08:30PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

very dodgy goings on in the boardrooms of both glasgow clubs at the minute

There is more than 2 clubs in Glasgow

blahfckingblah · 18-12-2013 08:34PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

There is more than 2 clubs in Glasgow

thanks for pointing that out haha... its clear who i mean

Hagar the Nice. · 18-12-2013 08:39PM

Gers fans gathering right now for the AGM.

Dempsey · 18-12-2013 08:51PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

In your opinion.

In the eyes of those he fought for, he is a freedom fighter. Many individuals that fought for independence, freedom, against oppression, for democracy, civil rights etc in Ireland can be classed as freedom fighters or terrorists depending on who's history books you read. Save us from your ignorance about Irish history please.

Hagar the Nice. wrote: »

“@Oranje_Live: Celtic coach Neil Lennon present to watch AZ v Heerenveen with Alfred Finnbogason the target.”
Bit late now.:(

Never too late

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 18-12-2013 10:58PM

Dempsey wrote: »

In the eyes of those he fought for, he is a freedom fighter. Many individuals that fought for independence, freedom, against oppression, for democracy, civil rights etc in Ireland can be classed as freedom fighters or terrorists depending on who's history books you read. Save us from your ignorance about Irish history please.

Never too late

I
So what your saying is even Irishmen are wrong to see him as a killer of innocents. Because all I see is a man who may or may not have pulled the trigger or may or may not have planted or built the bomb. He was part of them so is just as guilty. I don't see him as a freedom fighter because his ilk spawned the likes of Omagh and for me any feelings that him and others like him may have been in some way worthwhile died and I know many Irishmen who want a united Ireland as I do feel the same

blahfckingblah · 18-12-2013 11:17PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

I
So what your saying is even Irishmen are wrong to see him as a killer of innocents. Because all I see is a man who may or may not have pulled the trigger or may or may not have planted or built the bomb. He was part of them so is just as guilty. I don't see him as a freedom fighter because his ilk spawned the likes of Omagh and for me any feelings that him and others like him may have been in some way worthwhile died and I know many Irishmen who want a united Ireland as I do feel the same

so by your own logic those british soldiers werent welcome in Ibrox due to the atrocities their ilk created such as bloody sunday?

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