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I am so annoyed at St. Vincent de Paul

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Son of a gun


    Just to add the OP claims this girl is a "single mother" defrauding the state and StVdeP, when in actual fact she's not a single mother. Shes part of a couple who are defrauding. I just feel that distinction is important, as it's couples living together yet claiming One Parent Family Allowance and not single parents who commit this particular fraud. Yet "single mothers" get blamed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 tusnumber000


    I don't spy on her, she used to be a friend until I couldn't stomach her sponging any longer. Get your facts straight, have I touched a nerve or have you nothing better to do than insult me?

    So, when she was a friend it was ok for her to commit fraud ? Im glad im not an exfriend of yours, i stole a grape the other day in lidl. lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,120 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Talk to Joe......

    ♫ ♫ on 1850 715 815..♫ ♫...or joe@rte.ie...♫ ♫

    delee, delee , delee etc etc etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    So, when she was a friend it was ok for her to commit fraud ? Im glad im not an exfriend of yours, i stole a grape the other day in lidl. lol
    Jesus what is your problem? Are you on a single mammy crusade or something? I couldn't stomach the woman bitching about being broke every time I met her, yet she was able to run a fairly new estate car, take several holidays a year and pay for her kids to partake in multiple expensive after school activities. All at tax payer expense. Blagging money shamelessly from a charity was the final straw for me. It was all I could do not to blurt out what a low and scummy thing it was to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    TheDriver wrote: »
    has the best of everything, spends more on sky packages in 2 months than I do in a year.
    How does she have the best of everything, and how do you know how much she spends on Sky packages? I mean, it seems like she might be taking the piss all right, but these threads always end up with ludicrous stories of things people on benefits could not possibly afford on benefits alone.

    Plus, there's nothing actually wrong with claiming lone parent benefits when you're genuinely a lone parent and the kids aren't in school yet. If you were to go to work, you'd have to spend a chunk of your wages on childcare anyway.
    So, when she was a friend it was ok for her to commit fraud ? Im glad im not an exfriend of yours, i stole a grape the other day in lidl. lol
    I get what you're saying but it's a bit pointless to use a completely incomparable analogy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭ofcork


    The svp have been given 770k by the government now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Henlars67


    St Vincent de Paul also give clothes, shoes, etc to young offenders in Saint Patricks Institution at Xmas time. I don't have a problem with that, but they were giving them cigarettes as well up until a couple of years ago, maybe they still are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    And then there was this guy who was working for nearly €109,000 per year and a charity gave him an extra €116,000 plus €19,000 to ease his woes.
    And apparently he wasn't the only one.

    I guess there's a right way to be wrong - be very very wrong:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 tusnumber000


    How does she have the best of everything, and how do you know how much she spends on Sky packages? I mean, it seems like she might be taking the piss all right, but these threads always end up with ludicrous stories of things people on benefits could not possibly afford on benefits alone.

    Plus, there's nothing actually wrong with claiming lone parent benefits when you're genuinely a lone parent and the kids aren't in school yet. If you were to go to work, you'd have to spend a chunk of your wages on childcare anyway.

    I get what you're saying but it's a bit pointless to use a completely incomparable analogy.
    Sorry, you dont get what im saying. If you fall out with this person all your past evils will come to haunt you. Big and small :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    McDermotX wrote: »
    Talk to Joe......

    ♫ ♫ on 1850 715 815..♫ ♫...or joe@rte.ie...♫ ♫

    delee, delee , delee etc etc etc


    Joe.....they've a hottub in the joy joe....all the single mothers in it with the prisoners joe.....taxpayers joe, Vincent the paul joe........sky sports joe...workin 16 jobs and I can't afford cornflakes for the cat joe.....will have to eat the cat for Christmas dinner joe.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    My da, constantly gets food vouchers from them.... Then blows his dole on drink, weed and poker.
    I'm thinking of complaining to them, that he does not need their money. (Got caught dealing weed recently... Wonder if telling them that would cut their help?)

    SVP are an amazing charity, but they give a lot to people that don't need. I know some estates where at least half the people have been getting Christmas hampers for the last 10 years!!!!!!!!!!! How the fcuk can they not question that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭lycan238


    Blimey reading this thread makes me sorry now I asked my local chapter for that bag of coal for over Christmas. (I got no voucher just a bag of coal asked them to do it that way)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 tusnumber000


    lycan238 wrote: »
    Blimey reading this thread makes me sorry now I asked my local chapter for that bag of coal for over Christmas. (I got no voucher just a bag of coal asked them to do it that way)
    I hope your not having a can or two of beer over Christmas now ! that would be an utter disgrace !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    lycan238 wrote: »
    Blimey reading this thread makes me sorry now I asked my local chapter for that bag of coal for over Christmas. (I got no voucher just a bag of coal asked them to do it that way)

    Hang your head in shame. It's that type of behaviour that led to the fall of Rome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    Nodin wrote: »
    Hang your head in shame. It's that type of behaviour that led to the fall of Rome.

    Rome burned While Nodin fiddled? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Rome burned While Nodin fiddled? ;)

    My hands were visible at all times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭downwesht


    Chief Exec on 125k, 6 emloyees on 85k, 75m cash in bank and 220m in assets............some charity............:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 tusnumber000


    Click here if you wish to help :)

    https://www.svp.ie/donate/single-donation-step-1.aspx

    I need a new pair of shoes to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,511 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    I am sure that this charity does reach some people that need it however the abuse of the system is rife.

    My father used to run a local shop and around this time of the year every year without fail you had people coming in with their Sdvp hampers trying to sell them to him for a cut price because they didn't need nor want them. Folks like that unfortunately soured the name for the rest of them unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭lycan238


    I hope your not having a can or two of beer over Christmas now ! that would be an utter disgrace !

    I don't drink alcohol at all no beer no wine no spirits. Don't smoke either before anyone asks that either.

    SVdP did not have to give it to me either they had the decision.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    lycan238 wrote: »
    I don't drink alcohol at all no beer no wine no spirits. Don't smoke either before anyone asks that either.

    SVdP did not have to give it to me either they had the decision.


    ...look, everyone knows you've five cars, 20 children and are going to distill booze from the coal. Me mates brothers sisters fathers husband heard it down the pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭zcorpian88


    Back in the 90's my dad was out of work for a period and we didn't see any money or vouchers off them, they gave a hamper on Christmas week if I remember right.

    I used to answer the door when I was a kid and this auld lad would be walking away from the door and the hamper would be on the doorstep. The hamper would have the best of food in it, sausages, rashers, pudding, milk, tea bags, butter, christmas pudding. All sorts of stuff.

    A voucher leaves them open to spend it on something they shouldn't spend it on.

    On another note while ye're talking about spongers and it annoys me more than my parents. Think it kind of does annoy my Dad but he would only rant about it after a few drinks

    Will be a bit of a story but ill say it anyway. My folks decided to buy their house 10 years ago as they were paying dead money in rent, when an offer was put on the table for them to pay relatively the same money to buy the house. The folks said they would like to have some double glazing put in first and maybe some new doors before they signed on the dotted line. This being the celtic tiger era when money was "everywhere"

    The council gave a very short amount of time to sign or this deal would be withdrawn and said they would put that stuff in if they signed. So they went and signed. All this happened when I was a teenager, if I knew any better I'd have made them put that in writing.

    Anyway the folks got onto the council, and they were like "Oh we will get....to call you back" this went on for years and the rooms in the house were freezing in the winter so about 4 years ago they finally got the bones of 4000 euro for windows and a more sturdier front and back door to keep the heat in. Pissed my parents off to no end having to do that after the council done us.

    Moving on to present, now the council have been up recently putting in doors, windows, gas heating, new floors, built in kitchens, insulation etc for all my fairly useless neighbours who don't do a tap for a living and sponge off the state and just spend their time procreating to pay for another 50" LED television. While my parents slaved away to pay for their windows and doors etc and still have the same rubbish kitchen they've had for 20 odd years except the odd changing of wallpaper, with one press that you can't find anything in because there is so much stuff in there (pretty much all the food), and a table, as well as the usual sink, washer, dryer, cooker, mircowave, fridge and the other usual shyte. It's like a kitchen you would have found in a council flat in the 90's.

    Probably would be called a bitter bastard for "begrudging" my neighbours of all these privileges but they have been milking it for years and continue to do so. If you're paying for your council house, you're treated like a sucker, while the freeloaders get everything and more handed to them on a silver platter. Just pisses me right off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 tusnumber000


    lycan238 wrote: »
    I don't drink alcohol at all no beer no wine no spirits. Don't smoke either before anyone asks that either.

    SVdP did not have to give it to me either they had the decision.
    Why do you feel the need to claim a bag of coal then, while others are freezing and starving to death in this great country of ours ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭lycan238


    Nodin wrote: »
    ...look, everyone knows you've five cars, 20 children and are going to distill booze from the coal. Me mates brothers sisters fathers husband heard it down the pub.

    five cars?? I wish I can barely afford the one I have
    20 Children?? I need a girlfriend/partner before the first one never mind 20
    As for your mates brothers sisters fathers husband tell him he passed the game of Chinese whispers with an A+ grade


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Sorry, you dont get what im saying. If you fall out with this person all your past evils will come to haunt you. Big and small :)
    What a crock of Sh*t Funnily enough, the person I was referring to was forever sending chain letters to people. Sounds like the 2 of you would get on really well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 tusnumber000


    zcorpian88 wrote: »
    Back in the 90's my dad was out of work for a period and we didn't see any money or vouchers off them, they gave a hamper on Christmas week if I remember right.

    I used to answer the door when I was a kid and this auld lad would be walking away from the door and the hamper would be on the doorstep. The hamper would have the best of food in it, sausages, rashers, pudding, milk, tea bags, butter, christmas pudding. All sorts of stuff.

    A voucher leaves them open to spend it on something they shouldn't spend it on.

    On another note while ye're talking about spongers and it annoys me more than my parents. Think it kind of does annoy my Dad but he would only rant about it after a few drinks

    Will be a bit of a story but ill say it anyway. My folks decided to buy their house 10 years ago as they were paying dead money in rent, when an offer was put on the table for them to pay relatively the same money to buy the house. The folks said they would like to have some double glazing put in first and maybe some new doors before they signed on the dotted line. This being the celtic tiger era when money was "everywhere"

    The council gave a very short amount of time to sign or this deal would be withdrawn and said they would put that stuff in if they signed. So they went and signed. All this happened when I was a teenager, if I knew any better I'd have made them put that in writing.

    Anyway the folks got onto the council, and they were like "Oh we will get....to call you back" this went on for years and the rooms in the house were freezing in the winter so about 4 years ago they finally got the bones of 4000 euro for windows and a more sturdier front and back door to keep the heat in. Pissed my parents off to no end having to do that after the council done us.

    Moving on to present, now the council have been up recently putting in doors, windows, gas heating, new floors, built in kitchens, insulation etc for all my fairly useless neighbours who don't do a tap for a living and sponge off the state and just spend their time procreating to pay for another 50" LED television. While my parents slaved away to pay for their windows and doors etc and still have the same rubbish kitchen they've had for 20 odd years except the odd changing of wallpaper, with one press that you can't find anything in because there is so much stuff in there (pretty much all the food), and a table, as well as the usual sink, washer, dryer, cooker, mircowave, fridge and the other usual shyte. It's like a kitchen you would have found in a council flat in the 90's.

    Probably would be called a bitter bastard for "begrudging" my neighbours of all these privileges but they have been milking it for years and continue to do so. If you're paying for your council house, you're treated like a sucker, while the freeloaders get everything and more handed to them on a silver platter. Just pisses me right off.
    There is nothing more galling to angry people than the coolness of those on whom they wish to vent their spleen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 tusnumber000


    What a crock of Sh*t Funnily enough, the person I was referring to was forever sending chain letters to people. Sounds like the 2 of you would get on really well.

    No need to insulting. I think you should bring a a bottle of wine to your exfriend and make up over christmas, life is short and maybe shes misses you :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    No need to insulting. I think you should bring a a bottle of wine to your exfriend and make up over christmas, life is short and maybe shes misses you :)
    I'd say the SVP have paid for her Christmas booze already;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭Logie-1


    I am a member of SVP, although I live in a rural area and the main "poverty" that we have to deal with is loneliness.

    I cannot defend or condemn the SVP members involved in this case.

    We are taught not to judge, treat every case individually. I do understand your frustration op, but you have the advantage of knowing this person on a personal basis. We got a call to a home a few years back. We pulled up outside, there was a try decent motor parked in the driveway, inside had al the mod cons, flatscreen tv, xbox etc.Right away I'm thinking that there is no poverty here. Then we got the full story, both had jobs in construction, both where still working but earning a lot less that before, they needed the car for work, big mortgage and negative on the house, both where very embarrassed to be looking for handouts from the SVP.(this was a genuine case)

    So yes, there are very greedy selfish people in this world who don't give a 5hit about anyone but themselves and unfortunately these make life harder for the people who really need help.

    And as someone mentioned above, there are lots of people who could be doing with help, but they are too embarrassed to come forward. We have to rely on there friends and family telling us.

    And when all is said and done, if people don't like what the SVP is doing, then why not come along and help straighten us out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 tusnumber000


    I cant see on the SVP site where you can free stuff, like booze, fags, money and even a bag of coal. Any help ??


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