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thestar · 16-12-2013 12:33AM

Didn't realise there would be add ons to that figure mentioned in the public jobs booklet. don't think anybody knows what the proper story is. I think that is the final figure, student nurses are on something very similar with a very minimal allowance given for overtime. I know it is a totally different job but the Gardai and nurses are similar in pay scales

HighburyLad · 16-12-2013 01:24AM

I'm pretty certain things like rent allowance would be subject to where you would end up stationed, pretty certain all gardai get a rental allowance, but some who could be stationed for example, Dublin city could possibly get more to accommodate them, I say this with hope and really a guess, more so hope lol, as I've been told by fam and others that have heard through the grape vine that most recruits could end up, the likes of Dublin

Scouser · 16-12-2013 01:28AM

HighburyLad wrote: »

I'm pretty certain things like rent allowance would be subject to where you would end up stationed, pretty certain all gardai get a rental allowance, but some who could be stationed for example, Dublin city could possibly get more to accommodate them, I say this with hope and really a guess, more so hope lol, as I've been told by fam and others that have heard through the grape vine that most recruits could end up, the likes of Dublin

no the rent allowance is standard for everyone

i think it stands at a little over 4k per year

its basically a way of keeping displaced members happy! basically a 'mobility of labour' allowance, as they can post you anywhere in the state

whether your in a small country sub station or a large city station, everyone receives the same rent allowance.

whether it remains for new joiners remains to be seen

realitycheck24 · 16-12-2013 01:29AM

Scouser wrote: »

no the rent allowance is standard for everyone

i think it stands at a little over 4k per year

its basically a way of keeping displaced members happy! basically a 'mobility of labour' allowance, as they can post you anywhere in the state

whether your in a small country sub station or a large city station, everyone receives the same rent allowance.

whether it remains for new joiners remains to be seen

Im afraid not Scouser,rent allowance wont be given to new members,it was posted here a while back from some document govt released,its just 23,000e no allowances

Devil08 · 16-12-2013 02:01AM

realitycheck24 wrote: »

Im afraid not Scouser,rent allowance wont be given to new members,it was posted here a while back from some document govt realeased,its just 23,000e no allowances

You serious?? That's scandalous

Scouser · 16-12-2013 02:07AM

realitycheck24 wrote: »

Im afraid not Scouser,rent allowance wont be given to new members,it was posted here a while back from some document govt realeased,its just 23,000e no allowances

any chance of a link?

Scouser · 16-12-2013 02:16AM

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1101/343920-public-accounts-committee-gardai/

http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/media/committees/pac/correspondence/2012-publicsectorallowances/[PAC-R-703]-Correspondence-3D.2-[FULL].pdf

realitycheck24 · 16-12-2013 02:27AM

I had a link from Irish times but you have to pay to see it now as its archived,100% though its definetly gone even Callinan mentioned it been gone for new entrants at a PAC meeting..I dont think new entrants get any allowances just basic salary but as I say rent deffo gone

carzony · 16-12-2013 02:28AM

not much money left over out of that wage if you have to rent your own accomodation aswell... i'm suprised they scraped that

realitycheck24 · 16-12-2013 02:35AM

new garda pay is effectively minimum wage after deductions and it'll take years just to reach take home pay of existing gardai in their first year..they are well paid alot in trouble now but thats just because they went mad spending in the boom..new gardai wont have money to go mad

carzony · 16-12-2013 02:38AM

realitycheck24 wrote: »

new garda pay is effectively minimum wage after deductions and it'll take years just to reach take home pay of existing gardai..

Really bad money on offer in fairness lads. you'd make a lot more working in a supermarket:mad:.. my 17 year old cousin comes home with 325 now lol

DesertCreat_15 · 16-12-2013 02:40AM

I can guarantee you that 80% of the people that applied have absolutely no idea of the new Pay !

thestar · 16-12-2013 02:42AM

Those wages are a joke, there will be nobody just joing for the sake of it now. It will be people who are seriously dedicated to the cause that will stick that out. Gardai wages will still be only middling in 10 years and that's a fact

carzony · 16-12-2013 02:42AM

I also guarantee many will get pissed off with the job very quickly especially on such low pay. Being honest it even had me thinking twice for a while. Have to say I think gardai had a cheek to complain about their starter wages a few years back..

thestar · 16-12-2013 02:45AM

Its actually laughable. Whatever about a nurse, they can go working in the private sector or leave the country altogether. But a garda does not have these choices

shakin · 16-12-2013 02:46AM

more great work by the GRA :rolleyes:

realitycheck24 · 16-12-2013 02:46AM

terrible pay and it will be disheartening getting paid so much less than the person next to you but thats the job market as a whole so huge numbers will apply regardless,employers who take on staff now are mostly offering crap pay because its an employers market-take it or leave it.
new gardai were sold out to maintain pay of existing ones,power in numbers

carzony · 16-12-2013 02:50AM

thestar wrote: »

Its actually laughable. Whatever about a nurse, they can go working in the private sector or leave the country altogether. But a garda does not have these choices

i never thought of it like that and once you leave I guarantee it'd be impossible getting back in there.

anyone here decided not to bother applying because of the pay?

thestar · 16-12-2013 02:51AM

financially you would be better off on the dole. Unless people have a serious interest in the job then they wont stick it.

pah · 16-12-2013 02:53AM

carzony wrote: »

I also guarantee many will get pissed off with the job very quickly especially on such low pay. Being honest it even had me thinking twice for a while. Have to say I think gardai had a cheek to complain about their starter wages a few years back..

Well you should be happy to know that the wages are fairly fukked now.

There might not be rent allowance but new members will have to get the same shift allowance, madness if they don't

thestar · 16-12-2013 03:06AM

how bad is the pay now? A friend of mine lives with two gardai and he reckons that they are only on 400e a week? I now don't blame guards for being lazy, they are making fools out of people offering that money. Reserves are the only one's that will stick it. No more than myself, if this is true then thousands of people are in for a serious shock

carzony · 16-12-2013 03:07AM

350 a week i read....? with most of the allowances gone. My neighbour is a guard and his car broke down last week. Poor man hasnt a penny so needs a lift to work now and he's been in the guards a good while..

thestar · 16-12-2013 03:10AM

definitely more than that, that's the figure that new recruits will be on..

carzony · 16-12-2013 03:13AM

sorry mate thought you were asking about the recruits lol i should have copped you'd know already. I aint got a clue what they get.

this may be correct?

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nospinireland.com%2FGardai.html&ei=BmKuUsK8JM3Y7Aarl4CIDw&usg=AFQjCNE_mfbYfpjlDhjMbuP76m1B3EtK8w

DTB87 · 16-12-2013 06:50AM

Anyone know how strict the "having two languages" part is? I am educated beyond the required spec, but have never been interested in learning any languages. I dropped them in school to study other topics, as I was lucky enough to have this option.

thekopend · 16-12-2013 10:26AM

DTB87 wrote: »

Anyone know how strict the "having two languages" part is? I am educated beyond the required spec, but have never been interested in learning any languages. I dropped them in school to study other topics, as I was lucky enough to have this option.

If you don't have the two languages then you are out of luck, and out of the campaign.

HighburyLad · 16-12-2013 10:32AM

I'm struggling to understand how gardai could be paid so little, you leave an opportunity for bribery to take place and I mean that in a genuine concern, not because of dishonesty but because people can't afford the clothes on their back

TheNog · 16-12-2013 10:35AM

thestar wrote: »

is there a rent allowance for Gardai?

Rent allowance afaik is still being reviewed for new members. Other allowances that we get for unsocial hours etc will be the same for new entrants.

Some people have posted something in the region of €350 a week which could be correct however bare in mind your pension, health, critical illness etc would be already deducted before you get €350. Not to mention that every 4th pay check will contain your allowances and OT. Also you get an increment after 22 weeks attestation and every year after that for the first 6 yrs

Might clear up a couple of points.

Santa Cruz · 16-12-2013 12:48PM

TheNog wrote: »

Rent allowance afaik is still being reviewed for new members. Other allowances that we get for unsocial hours etc will be the same for new entrants.

Some people have posted something in the region of €350 a week which could be correct however bare in mind your pension, health, critical illness etc would be already deducted before you get €350. Not to mention that every 4th pay check will contain your allowances and OT. Also you get an increment after 22 weeks attestation and every year after that for the first 6 yrs

Might clear up a couple of points.

All that was before the Croke Park and Haddington Road agreement. Overtime is at a minimum and paid at a lesser rate than before. You now are working longer hours with a serious impact on family life. The only advantage is if you are in a position to do nixers because of the extra days off.

The new applicants are going to get their eyes opened very quickly as to the terrible wages they will be getting in comparison to jobs they are in now.

djor88 · 16-12-2013 01:43PM

Jaysus, the pay looks absolutely ****e, without the rent allowance and other allowances it's criminal to pay Police Officers so little, still going for it but with serious thoughts on the pay...

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