kippy wrote: » Sister is thinking of applying this time out. Realisticilly has she a hope in hell of making it? I assume reservists etc will have almost a "first preference".
kippy wrote: » Welcome to the real world. Where people doing the same jobs dont get paid the same..... Particularily in state jobs and even then, the rates are different from state to state. Sister is thinking of applying this time out. Realisticilly has she a hope in hell of making it? I assume reservists etc will have almost a "first preference".
senordingdong wrote: » Couldn't say. But isn't it a European Court ruling that two people doing the same job have to be paid the same? Then again, like the 10% cut to all civil servants who started in 2011, it could inevitably be reversed. Just a ploy to save a few bob in the short term.
Devil08 wrote: » You will be paid the same. The same as as everyone else who's joining with you. You won't be paid the same as someone who's in the force 5 or 10 or 20 years. Everyone in the force is paid differently depending on rank and length of service. Nothing illegal about that. What illegal is if one trainee was getting 5 grand more than another trainee for no reason whatsoever
redout wrote: » Sure isn't it happening to nurses?
senordingdong wrote: » True that. I know that there is alot of very serious talk of actually abolishing the RA for new entrants, but how can AGS pay two officers that are doing the same job, diffefently? Isn't that illeagal.
djor88 wrote: » Thanks TheNog, just a lot of rumours and figures flying about the place, if they do abolish the Rent Allowance that would make a big difference!
TheNog wrote: » See a lot of ye are getting confused here with allowances. Rent was the only allowance up for abolition for new entrants but there is no word if its gone or not. The other allowances we get will be the same for new members. Anyone want to email HR?
djor88 wrote: » theres a big enough difference in starting wage but the main worry is the allowances, if they get rid of the majority of those, such as the rent allowance, there will be a massive gap in what a new Garda will be earning compared to his/her colleagues
mycro89 wrote: » Is there a massive variance in pay in comparison to previous years when the recruits qualified? I think people should remember that no matter job you go into you are always going to be on low income for the first few years regardless.
Santa Cruz wrote: » All that was before the Croke Park and Haddington Road agreement. Overtime is at a minimum and paid at a lesser rate than before. You now are working longer hours with a serious impact on family life. The only advantage is if you are in a position to do nixers because of the extra days off. The new applicants are going to get their eyes opened very quickly as to the terrible wages they will be getting in comparison to jobs they are in now.
djor88 wrote: » Yeah it's a hard auld job to do especially on that type of money, it really is disgraceful. I'm sure with allowances etc it'll come up a bit but i'd be expecting to be starting on somewhere between 400-450 a week take home, anything less than that would be very very tough to live on for anyone even without commitments, forget about someone that may have a child/mortgage/debt of any kind... It's the problem with a job like this, it's more of a calling for alot of people, myself included, and the fact is that people like me will go for this job regardless of the salary, so they really can use people and treat us like dirt if they want. Sad and very disheartening to see such low wages on offer.
Ted_almighty wrote: » Ah you know us well!! :P No, its one of those Mobile Phone/Laptop repair deals. Shouldn't be an issue Id have thought.
Devil08 wrote: » depends what you sell in your 'small shop' :P Is it down a dark alley with red neon lights in the windows?
Ted_almighty wrote: » Are serving Garda allowed to have business interests? In a nutshell I run a small shop and my intention would be to hire someone full time to replace me. Do-able?
djor88 wrote: » I honestly don't think a person could live on that, doing 6 shifts in a row, dealing with all sorts of things, then trying to struggle to pay for a crappy share flat/house somewhere in a ****ty dublin suburb. There would literally be no money left for anything, forget holidays, buying a house or car etc... I'm currently on a lot better money, but the Guards is the job I want and it nearly sickens me that I still want it even though that pay is so low. Makes me feel like a sucker
djor88 wrote: » Jaysus, the pay looks absolutely ****e, without the rent allowance and other allowances it's criminal to pay Police Officers so little, still going for it but with serious thoughts on the pay...
TheNog wrote: » Rent allowance afaik is still being reviewed for new members. Other allowances that we get for unsocial hours etc will be the same for new entrants. Some people have posted something in the region of €350 a week which could be correct however bare in mind your pension, health, critical illness etc would be already deducted before you get €350. Not to mention that every 4th pay check will contain your allowances and OT. Also you get an increment after 22 weeks attestation and every year after that for the first 6 yrs Might clear up a couple of points.
thestar wrote: » is there a rent allowance for Gardai?
DTB87 wrote: » Anyone know how strict the "having two languages" part is? I am educated beyond the required spec, but have never been interested in learning any languages. I dropped them in school to study other topics, as I was lucky enough to have this option.
