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Same sex marriage - how will it impact you?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I'd be able to get married.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    UCDVet wrote: »
    That's exactly what you (or people like you) would have said about 'same-sex' marriage in 80s.
    You don't know me, you don't know my mindset, don't presume to put words in my mouth...how ignorant & arrogant of you.

    Incestuous relationships are taboo due to the birth defects that can occur from mixing gene pools that have similar/close genetic familial markers...that would be my concern, along with the stigma attached to the offspring of such couplings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    It wouldn't affect me directly I don't think (unless one of my kids turn out to be gay), but I would be happier with the world in general as I go about my day to day life knowing that there is at least some justice in the world and that there are no longer any legal reasons why gay people cannot get married in the same way that straight people can in this country.
    Like most people I think, I've felt as though this country has been behind the times in many ways, but there seem to be some changes in recent times - Changes for the better imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    No, it's like saying "take your whataboutery elsewhere". Every thread about SSM people bring in incest and polygamy (and usually bestiality and paedophilia) to derail it; it'd be nice to have just one thread that was actually about the subject.

    Cos there's no rational arguments against it so irrational ones, strawman arguments and whataboutery need to be wheeled out.

    Personally? won't affect me a jot other than I could see people I'm friends with get married and be afforded the same rights straight couples have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    I'll have to buy more wedding presents and keep a wedding guest suit handy. That's the only downside I can see for me.

    It's a good boost for the hotel sector too!

    Can't really see how it would impact anyone negatively.
    Looking forward to my first invitation!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    It will affect me because I will live in a more equal society with better civil rights.

    An excellent post.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    it would effect my liver and bank balance, i thought i had seen the end of the wedding but it would mean a whole new round of weddings. :(s


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    I'm still in the everyone getting married phase.

    You're all getting toasters! I don't care what's on the wedding list or whether both parties are different or the same gender, you can look forward to a nice toaster!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Won't affect me in the slightest...

    I mean, there's a good chance David Quinn and Ronan Mullen's heads will explode when President Higgins signs the thing into law - all the more reason to do it post-haste in my book!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    It does matter to me as I strongly believe that there should be same sex marraige. Not having it is just unjust these days.
    It is going to come in eventually is most western countries so lets just do it now, be progressive in a small attempt to right the wrong of taking so long to decriminalise homosexuality in this country.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Stainless_Steel


    Won't affect me unless I'm invited to a gay wedding. But most weddings are gay anyway ha.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Think about it from the point of view of what it says about Ireland too.

    If we become the first country that I'm aware of to grant constitutional rights to gay people and we do that by a majority vote in a referendum it really does say that we're an open minded, forward thinking place that puts human rights on the agenda in a serious way and that it has the backing of the majority of the people.

    Also think about the economic benefits. We are trying to attract some of the world's most creative and innovative IT companies and both retain our own talent and attract in overseas talent to do amazing things here in Ireland.
    You tend to scare a lot of talented people away by being a conservative backwater and attract them by being and open, liberal place.

    See: NYC or California modern day Britain or The Netherlands etc vs Alabama for example...

    Our bad old days of deep conservatism sent many of our most talented people abroad. Not everything about Irish emigration was economic. A lot of it was driven by stifling social conservativism driven by a top down right wing church and state combination. That drove a lot of our most innovative people out.

    If you were nonconservative, not conforming ... You probably headed to somewhere more interesting. As part of that era you can be 100% certain we lost a lot of very bright people just because they were gay/lesbian.

    Hopefully we will never repeat that mess!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Even though I'd try to avoid it, it'd still be hard to avoid David Quinn and his ilk going on about liberal agenda and gay agenda (because they don't have any other vocabulary re same) which would be annoying.

    But other than that, no effect on me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Even though I'd try to avoid it, it'd still be hard to avoid ... going on about liberal agenda and gay agenda (because they don't have any other vocabulary re same) which would be annoying.

    But other than that, no effect on me.

    One thing to bear in mind is that the broadcasting legislation here requires a 50:50 balanced debate regardless of what political or public opinion polling is.

    It's going to be very difficult for producers of radio and television programming to get non extreme guests on the no side and it probably gives them a huge platform as you won't find political parties or mainstream opposition to it.

    Opinion polling shows a strong majority in favour right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    I'm just embarassed it's taken this long for the backwards idiot:somewhat progressive ratio to shift enough for any Government to feel comfortable running this referendum...

    If it loses, I'll be bleedin mortified for the place... :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Winning will just be about mobilising the vote. It has popular support. If the turnout is tiny it could end up as a no vote though.

    So please encourage everyone you know to register to vote.

    People really need to start taking referenda and local elections and senate votes more seriously. The tiny turnout means you amplify well organised minority views or end up with a bunch of councillors who nobody knows who then vote through wonderful planning changes...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Axel Lamp


    It will not affect my life one iota. There are more important things to worry about.

    When and if it comes to a vote, I won't vote. The fanatics on both sides can fight it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭seb65


    Personally, if same sex marriage is allowed, it will be brilliant for me.

    Because I am sick to death of hearing about it.

    It harms no one. I am so tired of this stupid debate about it.

    Legalize it, so we can get back to dealing with, oh, the twenty other social problems we have on our plates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Links234 wrote: »
    I'd be able to get married.


    can i come?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    It won't impact me at all. It's a basic issue of civil rights though which would make a big difference to the lives of a significant number of people so I'm completely in favour of it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Tigger wrote: »
    can i come?
    Maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 580 ✭✭✭JumpShivers


    It won't affect me? Why would it affect me? Everyone has the right (or should have) to marry who they want, when they want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    I for one can't wait until David Quinn starts putting ads on TV to tell us why we should vote no...



    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Links234 wrote: »
    Maybe?

    maybe means yes
    :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭FairytaleGirl


    It would mean I could get Married as well, properly with a ceremony and religion involved.

    It would mean my wife would be called my wife, not my civil partner.

    It would mean if we have children we can both be put on the birth certificate and she wont have to 'adopt' it down the line.

    It would mean an awful lot to be seen as an equal citizen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Like every other straight person in the country, it won't effect me directly at all.

    Might allow people I know and care about or don;t know or don;t care about to be happy and power to them.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Manach wrote: »
    That the state seeks to change on a fundamental level one of the basic blocks of a functional society. The institution of marriage is a one of honour that provides for the promotion of a public good, the generation of a stable, familial life that will continue on the population of the state - this effects all of us given the overall disruption of family in say the UK were inspite of the rhetoric and claims by politicians - social experimentation on the status of the family has lead to broken homes in record number .

    The state, should this pass, will enforce this will the fanaticism of the NUI Galway in crushing discident opinions, and enforce this change to the social bargain on schools, institutions and private business who have no wish to be part of the experimentation on the new social bargain - an individual's conscience will no longer apply.

    Innate ramblings of the religious. Desperate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Sierra 117


    It wouldn't affect me in the slightest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Innate ramblings of the religious. Desperate
    Bit harsh on religious people. Just like not all atheists are smug and arrogant, not all religious people are irrational and fanatical. But yeh, I can't understand a lot of that post - plain English works better than clunky, flowery language/sentences not fully understood or constructed by the author.
    I think what he might be saying is that secularism would be forced on people who are religious, but it's ok for religion to be forced on people who are secular.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    It would mean I could get Married as well, properly with a ceremony and religion involved.
    No it wouldn't. Religious organisations are under no obligation to marry anyone. You could have a marriage ceremony but it would be a civil one (not to be confused with a civil partnership).


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