Same sex marriage - how will it impact you?

old hippy

Forget for a moment that it signifies the fall of civilisation, ignore the children and other peripherals for a sec.

You're opposed to the idea of two people, deeply in love, of the same sex getting hitched.

Don't be codding us with your civil union is enough bobbins.

Be honest - how would gay marriage affect you? How would it impact on your life. Nobody else's - your life. How would gay marriage change it

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Festy

Honestly I couldn't give a toss what other people do.

P_1

I guess the only way would be a difficult calculation into how minutely it'd effect my bank account due to a potential increase in couples availing in the marriage related tax breaks. Reckon it'd cost me about 5c a year Joe.

Aside from that, not in the slightest

Sunnyisland

It won't effect me unless my wife tells me something I don't know :-)

razorblunt

It won't , it's just two people wanting to spend the rest of their lives together.

Plus no arguments over the ideal location for the toilet seat, lucky backstards.

thalia_13

It means my friends can marry, it means my cousin can marry, so for me it affects my wallet as I will have to fork out for wedding presents!

In seriousness though, the only marriage that will have any impact on my life will be my own. peoples sexuality is noones business but their own

stoneill

I'm married for 24 years so I have a no sex marriage.

MonstaMash

Not in the slightest...sure what harm, if two people love & have a commitment to each other, why should they be discriminated against over gender & not be allowed the same rights as a mixed gender union?

Meangadh

I couldn't give less of a crap what other people do if I tried. Anyone who gets het up about this topic seriously needs to find something else to be doing- I'm too busy to keep track of my own life, never mind someone else's.

Legs.Eleven

Well, it'll allow my cousin, who's been going out with the same man for about 30 years to finally get married. They've always come to every family occasion together and are very much in love. The idea that they can't get married seems so bizarre and unfair to me.

I'll be flying home especially to vote in this referendum as it's something I feel very strongly about (and I know some feel I don't have the right to because I don't live there but ah well ).


I've got a good feeling it's going to go through though; the Irish are not the conservative backwards rednecks some media makes us out to be.

Wibbs

Festy wrote: »

Honestly I couldn't give a toss what other people do.

This sums it up for me.

Son Of A Vidic

old hippy wrote: »

Be honest - how would gay marriage affect you? How would it impact on your life. Nobody else's - your life. How would gay marriage change it?

OP, where's your own opinion? I mean you did start the thread after all.

But anyway, no it wouldn't affect me. You would want to be some pompous self important príck, to try and get in the way of anyone's happiness imo.

December2012

It will affect me because I will live in a more equal society with better civil rights.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Wibbs wrote: »

This sums it up for me.

Pretty much the same here.

I don't believe in marriage anyway so couldn't give a rats arse.

Professey Chin

It would affect me to the sum of 0

I grammer good sat morning

UCDVet

I believe people should be allowed to marry whomever they want.

That includes:
Same-sex
Multiple-partners
Family-relatives

But there are still too many close-minded bigots in this world...still, someday, I think people will be free to choose who they love, and who they want to marry.

MonstaMash

UCDVet wrote: »

I believe people should be allowed to marry whomever they want.

That includes:
Same-sex
Multiple-partners
Family-relatives

But there are still too many close-minded bigots in this world...still, someday, I think people will be free to choose who they love, and who they want to marry.

WTF :eek:

Manach

That the state seeks to change on a fundamental level one of the basic blocks of a functional society. The institution of marriage is a one of honour that provides for the promotion of a public good, the generation of a stable, familial life that will continue on the population of the state - this effects all of us given the overall disruption of family in say the UK were inspite of the rhetoric and claims by politicians - social experimentation on the status of the family has lead to broken homes in record number .

The state, should this pass, will enforce this will the fanaticism of the NUI Galway in crushing discident opinions, and enforce this change to the social bargain on schools, institutions and private business who have no wish to be part of the experimentation on the new social bargain - an individual's conscience will no longer apply.

spank_inferno

Gay marriage will be compulsory.

Dr Turk Turkelton

It means I will get to go to some flamboyant weddings with more choices on the menu than beef or salmon.

spank_inferno

UCDVet wrote: »

I believe people should be allowed to marry whomever they want.

That includes:
Same-sex
Multiple-partners
Family-relatives

But there are still too many close-minded bigots in this world...still, someday, I think people will be free to choose who they love, and who they want to marry.

Either my sarcasm detector is failing or you are trying to make some lame implication that homosexuality is the same as incest.

UCDVet

MonstaMash wrote: »

WTF :eek:

That's exactly what you (or people like you) would have said about 'same-sex' marriage in 80s.

If number of people N are:
Of age
Willing

They should be able to get married. It is nobody's business but their own. Anything more than that is a law that takes away individual's rights because of how society feels. I think two dudes going at it is kinda weird. I wouldn't want to watch a video of it, that's for sure. But it's not about what *I* want to see, it's about two dudes and their right to get married, if they want. I don't have a smoking hot cousin, but why should there be a law that dictates who I can marry? Why is one form for discrimination okay, while others are not.

At different times and places, people have been forced to only marry within their race or even within their religion. It's ridiculous.

People should be able to marry people. As long as they are able to consent (old enough, mentally aware) and want to do it - they should be able to. Anything less is discrimination, plain and simple.

UCDVet

spank_inferno wrote: »

Either my sarcasm detector is failing or you are trying to make some lame implication that homosexuality is the same as incest.

In my mind, it is exactly the same.

It is no business of mine what you do with your private parts - so long as it is done in private, among consenting adults. If you want to sleep with one dude or five dudes, or five chicks, or your cousin or five of your cousins, or a black guy or a white girl, or an amputee, or a Buddhist....

Whatever. That is your business, not mine. Laws against it are barbaric and close minded.

efb

I see what you are doing UCDVet, but the thread specifically refers to SSM

jandm

Apart from the possibility of being invited to a wedding or two it does not affect me at all!

UCDVet

efb wrote: »

I see what you are doing UCDVet, but the thread specifically refers to SSM

That's like saying, 'You shouldn't abuse your children, if they have blue eyes'.

The distinction of eye colour is meaningless and unnecessary. Fighting for same-sex marriage is just as narrow-minded. The topic is exactly the same.

Same-sex marriages won't affect ME.
Polygamous marriages won't affect ME.
Inter-racial marriages won't affect ME.
Inter-religious marriages won't affect ME.
Incestuous marriages wont' affect ME.

I'm a dude, and I'm married to a chick. We're both white. We're not related. We're both non-religious.

Trampling over the rights of others because we find their choices to be 'icky' or 'against God' or 'against nature' is wrong, IMHO.

Fr_Dougal

It'll mean more business.

efb

UCDVet wrote: »

That's like saying, 'You shouldn't abuse your children, if they have blue eyes'.

The distinction of eye colour is meaningless and unnecessary. Fighting for same-sex marriage is just as narrow-minded. The topic is exactly the same.

Same-sex marriages won't affect ME.
Polygamous marriages won't affect ME.
Inter-racial marriages won't affect ME.
Inter-religious marriages won't affect ME.
Incestuous marriages wont' affect ME.

I'm a dude, and I'm married to a chick. We're both white. We're not related. We're both non-religious.

Trampling over the rights of others because we find their choices to be 'icky' or 'against God' or 'against nature' is wrong, IMHO.

When will you stop beating your wife????

Question as valid as yours

c_man

Won't affect me at all. I dont see the big deal. Religious types shouldn't care since it won't be a real marriage in their eyes anyways.

Why do married couples get tax breaks?

Friend Computer

UCDVet wrote: »

That's like saying, 'You shouldn't abuse your children, if they have blue eyes'.

No, it's like saying "take your whataboutery elsewhere". Every thread about SSM people bring in incest and polygamy (and usually bestiality and paedophilia) to derail it; it'd be nice to have just one thread that was actually about the subject.

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Links234

I'd be able to get married.

MonstaMash

UCDVet wrote: »

That's exactly what you (or people like you) would have said about 'same-sex' marriage in 80s.

You don't know me, you don't know my mindset, don't presume to put words in my mouth...how ignorant & arrogant of you.

Incestuous relationships are taboo due to the birth defects that can occur from mixing gene pools that have similar/close genetic familial markers...that would be my concern, along with the stigma attached to the offspring of such couplings.

flutterflye

It wouldn't affect me directly I don't think (unless one of my kids turn out to be gay), but I would be happier with the world in general as I go about my day to day life knowing that there is at least some justice in the world and that there are no longer any legal reasons why gay people cannot get married in the same way that straight people can in this country.
Like most people I think, I've felt as though this country has been behind the times in many ways, but there seem to be some changes in recent times - Changes for the better imo.

krudler

Friend Computer wrote: »

No, it's like saying "take your whataboutery elsewhere". Every thread about SSM people bring in incest and polygamy (and usually bestiality and paedophilia) to derail it; it'd be nice to have just one thread that was actually about the subject.

Cos there's no rational arguments against it so irrational ones, strawman arguments and whataboutery need to be wheeled out.

Personally? won't affect me a jot other than I could see people I'm friends with get married and be afforded the same rights straight couples have.

SpaceTime

I'll have to buy more wedding presents and keep a wedding guest suit handy. That's the only downside I can see for me.

It's a good boost for the hotel sector too!

Can't really see how it would impact anyone negatively.
Looking forward to my first invitation!

mattjack

December2012 wrote: »

It will affect me because I will live in a more equal society with better civil rights.

An excellent post.

John Mason

it would effect my liver and bank balance, i thought i had seen the end of the wedding but it would mean a whole new round of weddings. :(s

SpaceTime

I'm still in the everyone getting married phase.

You're all getting toasters! I don't care what's on the wedding list or whether both parties are different or the same gender, you can look forward to a nice toaster!

Foxhound38

Won't affect me in the slightest...

I mean, there's a good chance David Quinn and Ronan Mullen's heads will explode when President Higgins signs the thing into law - all the more reason to do it post-haste in my book!

Menas

It does matter to me as I strongly believe that there should be same sex marraige. Not having it is just unjust these days.
It is going to come in eventually is most western countries so lets just do it now, be progressive in a small attempt to right the wrong of taking so long to decriminalise homosexuality in this country.

Stainless_Steel

Won't affect me unless I'm invited to a gay wedding. But most weddings are gay anyway ha.

SpaceTime

Think about it from the point of view of what it says about Ireland too.

If we become the first country that I'm aware of to grant constitutional rights to gay people and we do that by a majority vote in a referendum it really does say that we're an open minded, forward thinking place that puts human rights on the agenda in a serious way and that it has the backing of the majority of the people.

Also think about the economic benefits. We are trying to attract some of the world's most creative and innovative IT companies and both retain our own talent and attract in overseas talent to do amazing things here in Ireland.
You tend to scare a lot of talented people away by being a conservative backwater and attract them by being and open, liberal place.

See: NYC or California modern day Britain or The Netherlands etc vs Alabama for example...

Our bad old days of deep conservatism sent many of our most talented people abroad. Not everything about Irish emigration was economic. A lot of it was driven by stifling social conservativism driven by a top down right wing church and state combination. That drove a lot of our most innovative people out.

If you were nonconservative, not conforming ... You probably headed to somewhere more interesting. As part of that era you can be 100% certain we lost a lot of very bright people just because they were gay/lesbian.

Hopefully we will never repeat that mess!

Femme_Fatale

Even though I'd try to avoid it, it'd still be hard to avoid David Quinn and his ilk going on about liberal agenda and gay agenda (because they don't have any other vocabulary re same) which would be annoying.

But other than that, no effect on me.

SpaceTime

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Even though I'd try to avoid it, it'd still be hard to avoid ... going on about liberal agenda and gay agenda (because they don't have any other vocabulary re same) which would be annoying.

But other than that, no effect on me.

One thing to bear in mind is that the broadcasting legislation here requires a 50:50 balanced debate regardless of what political or public opinion polling is.

It's going to be very difficult for producers of radio and television programming to get non extreme guests on the no side and it probably gives them a huge platform as you won't find political parties or mainstream opposition to it.

Opinion polling shows a strong majority in favour right now.

Foxhound38

I'm just embarassed it's taken this long for the backwards idiot:somewhat progressive ratio to shift enough for any Government to feel comfortable running this referendum...

If it loses, I'll be bleedin mortified for the place... :eek:

SpaceTime

Winning will just be about mobilising the vote. It has popular support. If the turnout is tiny it could end up as a no vote though.

So please encourage everyone you know to register to vote.

People really need to start taking referenda and local elections and senate votes more seriously. The tiny turnout means you amplify well organised minority views or end up with a bunch of councillors who nobody knows who then vote through wonderful planning changes...

Axel Lamp

It will not affect my life one iota. There are more important things to worry about.

When and if it comes to a vote, I won't vote. The fanatics on both sides can fight it out.

seb65

Personally, if same sex marriage is allowed, it will be brilliant for me.

Because I am sick to death of hearing about it.

It harms no one. I am so tired of this stupid debate about it.

Legalize it, so we can get back to dealing with, oh, the twenty other social problems we have on our plates.

Tigger

Links234 wrote: »

I'd be able to get married.

can i come?

Benny_Cake

It won't impact me at all. It's a basic issue of civil rights though which would make a big difference to the lives of a significant number of people so I'm completely in favour of it.