Most demeaning first-world jobs?

mikom · 11-12-2013 09:45PM

I'll add TV licence inspectors to the list, and also those paid to post incognito on social media to further the aims of government.
The government shills should just shoot themselves now.

Pai Mei · 11-12-2013 09:50PM

Actually a chugger came by recently. I'm living in a student village and they went around the whole village. One of them was old the other was not much older than me. Didn't think they would come after a village residence which is full of 1st years :L

Muise... · 11-12-2013 09:51PM

PopRocks wrote: »

You have to feel a bit bad for the chuggers. Most the ones you see are very young people, probably just out of school or college. They're told they're doing vital work and actually helping people, out in all kinds of weather all day on their feet. Wouldn't fancy it.

Are you playing on our heartstrings on behalf of the charities that play on our heartstrings? Because that'd be the square root of the world's smallest violin.

PopRocks · 11-12-2013 09:57PM

I just wouldn't personally hold it against them. I won't sign up to charities that use them, but I wouldn't hold it against the young and naive either.

PopRocks · 11-12-2013 10:11PM

Saying that though, I find the ones who take advantage of old or vulnerable people discusting.

BonsaiKitten · 11-12-2013 10:15PM

PopRocks wrote: »

You have to feel a bit bad for the chuggers. Most the ones you see are very young people, probably just out of school or college. They're told they're doing vital work and actually helping people, out in all kinds of weather all day on their feet. Wouldn't fancy it.

Some of my mates have worked as chuggers.
Do they think they're doing it to help people...do they ****. They do it for the cash, plain and simple. It's not out of some misplaced altruism.

Femme_Fatale · 11-12-2013 10:17PM

Terry1985 wrote: »

I don't like my doorstep used as an advertising platform for multi million Euro companies... same goes for text spam on my personal phone.

If you tolerate it, I guarantee it will get worse.

Cold calling is illegal in parts of the UK.

That's my point - I don't tolerate it; I just close the door before they get started. I'm not into screaming abuse at easy targets. It's a sh1t job but it's probably accepted by a lot of them as a desperate way to get off the dole. Doubt they last.

jantheman91 · 11-12-2013 10:20PM

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

Some of my mates have worked as chuggers.
Do they think they're doing it to help people...do they ****. They do it for the cash, plain and simple. It's not out of some misplaced altruism.

I find that pretty disgusting to be honest.

I've no job at the moment and am in the process of looking to do volunteer work. All I care about is doing what I can to help those less fortunate than me.

All charity workers aren't the same. Put down your tar brush.

Ninap · 11-12-2013 10:23PM

Those chaps who try to hand you a paper towel in the jacks in the hope you'll give em a euro; that's pretty demeaning.

keith16 · 11-12-2013 10:24PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Chuggers.

Generally viewed as worse than beggars by the public

That's because they are worse. Beggars by and large are nowhere near as invasive as the fuckers waving their clipboard at you from half a mile down the street and actively blocking your path.

I really really wish chuggers were banned from the streets of our towns and cities.

BonsaiKitten · 11-12-2013 10:24PM

jantheman91 wrote: »

I find that pretty disgusting to be honest.

I've no job at the moment and am in the process of looking to do volunteer work. All I care about is doing what I can to help those less fortunate than me.

All charity workers aren't the same. Put down your tar brush.

Reread what I said. People I know who've been chuggers, haven't done it for the feelgood factor. And I wouldn't count chuggers as charity workers - they aren't volunteers if they are getting paid. For sure, you run into some on the streets that are unpaid, but this is a job to people.

Next time actually read what I said.

DarkJager · 11-12-2013 10:27PM

It has to be customer service/call centre jobs. Listening to whiny self-important ***** all day on a salary just above minimum wage. Thank **** my days in that sector are long behind me now but I can't imagine a worse job.

Muise... · 11-12-2013 10:35PM

Ninap wrote: »

Those chaps who try to hand you a paper towel in the jacks in the hope you'll give em a euro; that's pretty demeaning.

Demeaning to whom? I don't frequent places where that happens, but if I did I'd cringe at the intrusion.

Femme_Fatale · 11-12-2013 10:37PM

Muise... wrote: »

Demeaning to whom? I don't frequent places where that happens, but if I did I'd cringe at the intrusion.

Twould be more of a Dublin cocktail bar, wine bar, nightclub kinda thing.

Pai Mei · 11-12-2013 10:38PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Twould be more of a Dublin thing.

They are everywhere in Limerick Nite Clubs :L it's horrible especially when there are so many drunk students in the bathroom at once and then this guy keeps shoving paper towels and Linx in your face.

razorblunt · 11-12-2013 10:48PM

Pai Mei wrote: »

They are everywhere in Limerick Nite Clubs :L it's horrible especially when there are so many drunk students in the bathroom at once and then this guy keeps shoving paper towels and Linx in your face.

Have to say I've gone beyond feeling awkward in there, happily wash my hands ask to use the hand dryer and go.

catallus · 11-12-2013 10:48PM

Chuggers get paid relatively well compared to beggars, and it is seen as a rite of passage for many sales-persons. If climbing a ladder is demeaning then what isn't?

Customer_Service reps are well trained to deal with shíte. It is a handy number, compared to any job involving dealing with the public.

Cleaners do a job that is not very time-consuming and many choose to do it because it affords freedom of time for other things such as family or whatever.

No, the people I feel most sorry for are those professionals who start off with the best intentions in the world, and bust their holes to make a difference and then find that they and their dreams are consumed by the cruel realities of power:

Solicitors, judges, gardai, and prison officers in the realm of law; to see society go to pot because an invisible hand dictates lunatic policy in favour of the perpetrator against the victim.

Councillors and TDs in the realm of politics, same thing, different nouns. And the unfettered approbation that goes with it.

Accountants and actuaries, bankers and financiers: to know in your heart of hearts that your profession is no better than that of a hungover punter eyeing horses in a parade ring.

roadrunner16 · 11-12-2013 10:52PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Chuggers.

Generally viewed as worse than beggars by the public

the only thing worse than getting plagued by a chugger .. being a chugger.. I was one for a short summer and my god it was the most horrible mind numbing work .. sometimes it payed around minimum wage, purely commision based and some days it was the worst and most disgusting job in the world, stuck out in the cold/rain making less than half minimum wage.

Knowing that every person you asked was wishing they could kick you in the head and you are secretly wishing they would kick you in the head so you had an excuse to go home early.

Getting shouted at by some massive Russian lad because you were unable to scam enough people to make your target.

the most valuable thing I got out of 3 months of chugging was an appreciation for the value of money.

The Diabolical Monocle · 11-12-2013 10:55PM

Ninap wrote: »

Those chaps who try to hand you a paper towel in the jacks in the hope you'll give em a euro; that's pretty demeaning.

yeah that has to be it.
Some of the pub jacks out there, the stench would burn your eyes.
Sitting in there for your job, hoping to get a few coins.

fvck that.

Femme_Fatale · 11-12-2013 10:56PM

catallus wrote: »

Customer_Service reps are well trained to deal with shíte. It is a handy number, compared to any job involving dealing with the public.

Depends on the company, but yeh, it's better than having to face the customers.

the people I feel most sorry for are those professionals who start off with the best intentions in the world, and bust their holes to make a difference and then find that they and their dreams are consumed by the cruel realities of power

+1. Social workers too.

catallus · 11-12-2013 10:58PM

Yeah I forgot social workers, jaysus I hear horror stories

It is really really understandable why so many just switch off. Nothing is worth that shít.

Hello_MrFox · 11-12-2013 11:02PM

Why are nurses seen as such saints just out of curiosity ? I understand the job they do has long hours and can be tough, but surely there a plenty of jobs that would be considered 'worse' or on par. Im not sure how much a nurse earns either to be honest so i could be that they are severely underpaid.

I used to know a few fishermen and they used to work extremely long hours in what is a dangerous job with no guarantee of a decent wage at the end of it, some weeks/months they got next to nothing.

Rabelais · 11-12-2013 11:04PM

Social Workers are dealing with issues that sometimes come about as a result of the very ideology that makes them necessary in the first place.

Femme_Fatale · 11-12-2013 11:04PM

Hello_MrFox wrote: »

Why are nurses seen as such saints just out of curiosity ?

I don't know if they are. I think it's more that people don't believe they deserve abuse. They do get some abuse for being public sector.

Yeh it's true about fisherman. And I know two brothers who did the "deadliest catch" thing in Alaska for a big cash injection. So traumatised they can't talk about it...

Muise... · 11-12-2013 11:05PM

Rabelais wrote: »

Social Workers are dealing with issues that sometimes come about as a result of the very ideology that makes them necessary in the first place.

Signing on at Hatch 22...

catallus · 11-12-2013 11:10PM

Rabelais wrote: »

Social Workers are dealing with issues that sometimes come about as a result of the very ideology that makes them necessary in the first place.

Which is even more soul crushing.

Nurses become immune to their job at an early stage I think. Social workers really sell their souls. Not as bad as bankers though

crockholm · 11-12-2013 11:11PM

It's not the worst by a long shot (some really nasty jobs on here) but I remember doing the stop/go signs for a day and a half once,standing all day with irate drivers howling obsceneties and sometimes objects at you.Your conversation consists of "free to go after a red punto".

Still better than the lad that has to Clean the porno booths in the sex shops though

Y2KBOS86 · 11-12-2013 11:21PM

Hello_MrFox wrote: »

Why are nurses seen as such saints just out of curiosity ? I understand the job they do has long hours and can be tough, but surely there a plenty of jobs that would be considered 'worse' or on par. Im not sure how much a nurse earns either to be honest so i could be that they are severely underpaid.

.

Having worked in Hospital's and Nursing Homes I agree.

These days it's the care assistants that do all the work, Nursing is no where near as demanding as it used to be.

Alot of Nurses are doing the handy jobs doctor's used to do and the care assistants are doing the real work.

BNI · 11-12-2013 11:22PM

Any job that pay minimum wage or worse still this latest job bridge rubbish. If you are willing to work and work hard then why should you not have the ability to afford to house, feed and clothe yourself decently, let alone a family.

I worked on minimum wage in the 10 years ago and I ended up homeless because of all the people buying apartments they don't need and flying to Paris once a month on the profit they were making in rent in that month alone.

To take it to another level being Irish and paying tax is demeaning when Enda Kenny comes on tv this Sunday and tells you he's proud of you because you have put up with him and his kind. The fact of the matter is, 99.9% of the country was too busy trying to keep afloat to forcibly remove the establishment.

Mr Simpson · 11-12-2013 11:25PM

catallus wrote: »

Customer_Service reps are well trained to deal with shíte. It is a handy number, compared to any job involving dealing with the public.

Having done both, I can tell you it is far far far from a handy number. It depends on where you work

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