Free Santa flights on Ryanair around Shannon

gctest50 · 11-12-2013 09:57PM

mfceiling wrote: »

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The normal amount that a 40 foot trailer belonging to maxol/esso would carry here is approx 30,000 litres.

Would a regular plane take that much fuel plus another 30%?

seems 200,000 ish litres in a 747

darragh o meara · 11-12-2013 09:58PM

mfceiling wrote: »

That's 4.546 litres per second...

Which is 4.546 x 60 = 272.76 litres per minute.

An average european flight 2.5 hrs = 150 minutes

That's 272.76 x 150 = 40,914 litres of fuel.

The normal amount that a 40 foot trailer belonging to mal/esso would carry here is approx 30,000 litres.

Would a regular plane take that much fuel plus another 30%?

Without knowing the exact model 737 their using but typically the fuel capacity of a 737 series is in qround the 30,000 litres but tgey also have a range of approx 5500-9000 kms. Taking all into considerarion id say the consunption figures quoted above are wrong. However im not a pilot or an aviation engineer so I can only go with info from the net.

peppa 1986 · 11-12-2013 10:08PM

I think this is a wonderful initiative funded by Ryanair and Shannon Airport. There are no catches, it is free. My daughter and her two children are going and looking forward to a magical experience. Why do we always have to look for the negatives, it is a wonderful opportunity for children to experience a flight that they might not be able to afford and also to have a great santa experience. Dont knock it.

NATLOR · 11-12-2013 10:15PM

carolp wrote: »

Well done on getting your tickets, thats brill.
I just applied. I've no valid passports for one child, what else can be used for id. Also when did you apply.
Thanks

A passport is only required for travelling to another country

codie · 11-12-2013 10:23PM

NATLOR wrote: »

A passport is only required for travelling to another country

No its not .I was once refused on a Ryan air flight from kerry airport to Dublin because my passport was a month out of date.Its Their policy but they don't tell you until after you book.

carolp · 11-12-2013 10:39PM

It says in the t & c that all passangers are required to have a valid id.

NATLOR · 11-12-2013 10:43PM

codie wrote: »

No its not .I was once refused on a Ryan air flight from kerry airport to Dublin because my passport was a month out of date.Its Their policy but they don't tell you until after you book.

Correct me if im wrong but within the 'common travel area' you are only required to have valid photo ID,I have traveled frequently to the UK and drivers licence has sufficed but its always been Aer Lingus

ted1 · 11-12-2013 10:43PM

codie wrote: »

No its not .I was once refused on a Ryan air flight from kerry airport to Dublin because my passport was a month out of date.Its Their policy but they don't tell you until after you book.

Absolute Rubbish, its available on their website for all to see.
I really get sick and tired of people moaning about Ryan air and giving out about hitting charges etc.
Ryanair are the most transparent airline. they have no problem telling you that if you turn up with excess luggage they will charge you, etc

http://www.ryanair.com/en/terms-and-conditions#regulations-traveldocumentation

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THE ONLY FORMS OF TRAVEL DOCUMENTS ACCEPTED ON RYANAIR FLIGHTS ARE:

A valid passport
A valid National Identity Card issued by the government of a European Economic Area (EEA) country. (Only the following EEA countries currentlyissue National Identity Cards acceptable for carriage on Ryanair flights: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Malta, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden (not accepted on non Schengen flights), Switzerland)
A valid German Government issued ‘Kinderausweis’ travel document
A valid Greek National Police identity card
A valid Spanish Family Book (for use by children under 14 years travelling with their parents/legal guardians on Spanish domestic flights only)
A valid Italian ‘Certificato Di Nascita’ with photo (for use by children under 16 years) which has been endorsed as ‘VALIDO PER L'ESPATRIO’ for travel on international flights, no endorsement is required when travelling on Italian domestic flights.. It is the passenger's personal responsibility to ensure that this document meets the requirements of immigration and other governmental authorities at the destination airport.
A valid Italian AT/BT card (for Italian domestic flights only).
A valid UN Refugee Convention Travel Document – (issued in accordance with Article 28(1) of the 1951 UN Convention, by a Government in place of a valid passport.)
A valid Convention Travel Document – (issued in accordance with Article 27 of the 1954 UN Convention for Stateless Persons, by a contracting state in place of a valid passport)
A valid Collective Passport issued by an EU/EEA country
***********************************************************

carolp · 11-12-2013 10:50PM

what id would a child have though, other than a passport

sully2010 · 11-12-2013 10:51PM

codie wrote: »

No its not .I was once refused on a Ryan air flight from kerry airport to Dublin because my passport was a month out of date.Its Their policy but they don't tell you until after you book.

They refused you because it was out of date, no one accepts out of date passports for anything. I bet you had no other valid ID with you?

Regarding the Santa flights I have no doubt than any form of basic ID just to match the name on the tickets will be fine.

sully2010 · 11-12-2013 10:52PM

carolp wrote: »

what id would a child have though, other than a passport

They are usually written on a page in the parents passport, this will surely do I would say.

carolp · 11-12-2013 10:53PM

No my daughter had her own passport and wasn't on ours. Its prob not going to be an issue, it's looking like I didn't get the tickets

GerardKeating · 11-12-2013 10:58PM

sully2010 wrote: »

They are usually written on a page in the parents passport, this will surely do I would say.

Not any more. Children must have their own passport now. Either an EU or UN directive...

codie · 11-12-2013 10:59PM

sully2010 wrote: »

They refused you because it was out of date, no one accepts out of date passports for anything. I bet you had no other valid ID with you?

Regarding the Santa flights I have no doubt than any form of basic ID just to match the name on the tickets will be fine.

No after I booked the flight I was told in the conditions you needed a valid passport.I couldn't believe it myself.I took the chance of going anyway .There was a queue with
2 lads at the gate .Everybody had their passport.I had my drivers licence on me and that was no good either.The fellow checking passports on my left was easy going enough but the lad I went to was checking thoroughly.I chanced keeping my thumb over some of the date but he wasn't having any of it.Trust me you need a valid passport for Ryan Air even if its just a national flight.

ted1 · 11-12-2013 10:59PM

sully2010 wrote: »

They are usually written on a page in the parents passport, this will surely do I would say.

not for the past few years. My oldest is 4 and got her first passport at 2 days, the same picture lasted here till she turned 4

very odd seen here show the passport at immigration

sully2010 · 11-12-2013 11:00PM

carolp wrote: »

No my daughter had her own passport and wasn't on ours. Its prob not going to be an issue, it's looking like I didn't get the tickets

Sure who knows they might announce the same thing for Dublin Airport soon!

Doubt it though, that's a lot of free fuel O'Leary is burning, whats wrong with the man, the wife must have finally got to him.

codie · 11-12-2013 11:02PM

ted1 wrote: »

Absolute Rubbish, its available on their website for all to see.
I really get sick and tired of people moaning about Ryan air and giving out about hitting charges etc.
Ryanair are the most transparent airline. they have no problem telling you that if you turn up with excess luggage they will charge you, etc

http://www.ryanair.com/en/terms-and-conditions#regulations-traveldocumentation

**************************************************
THE ONLY FORMS OF TRAVEL DOCUMENTS ACCEPTED ON RYANAIR FLIGHTS ARE:

A valid passport
A valid National Identity Card issued by the government of a European Economic Area (EEA) country. (Only the following EEA countries currentlyissue National Identity Cards acceptable for carriage on Ryanair flights: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Malta, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden (not accepted on non Schengen flights), Switzerland)
A valid German Government issued ‘Kinderausweis’ travel document
A valid Greek National Police identity card
A valid Spanish Family Book (for use by children under 14 years travelling with their parents/legal guardians on Spanish domestic flights only)
A valid Italian ‘Certificato Di Nascita’ with photo (for use by children under 16 years) which has been endorsed as ‘VALIDO PER L'ESPATRIO’ for travel on international flights, no endorsement is required when travelling on Italian domestic flights.. It is the passenger's personal responsibility to ensure that this document meets the requirements of immigration and other governmental authorities at the destination airport.
A valid Italian AT/BT card (for Italian domestic flights only).
A valid UN Refugee Convention Travel Document – (issued in accordance with Article 28(1) of the 1951 UN Convention, by a Government in place of a valid passport.)
A valid Convention Travel Document – (issued in accordance with Article 27 of the 1954 UN Convention for Stateless Persons, by a contracting state in place of a valid passport)
A valid Collective Passport issued by an EU/EEA country
***********************************************************

No its not rubbish cause it happened to me .It cost me €130 to get to dublin that day.I didn't make it up it happened.

peppa 1986 · 11-12-2013 11:05PM

This flight is going out of and back into Shannon Airport with children. Many children will not have passports. As long as valid ID is produced they will be fine. A birth cert for a child and ID for adults to ensure that names match tickets. It is not a flight from one destination to another. It is going to and returning to the same place. Don't complicate this. It is a magical trip for children.

ted1 · 11-12-2013 11:17PM

codie wrote: »

No its not rubbish cause it happened to me .It cost me €130 to get to dublin that day.I didn't make it up it happened.

yes it is rubbish, as you said

codie wrote: »

No its not .I was once refused on a Ryan air flight from kerry airport to Dublin because my passport was a month out of date.Its Their policy but they don't tell you until after you book.

and i then showed you their terms and conditions which are available for all to see. as oppose to only being made available after you book which is what you said

ted1 · 11-12-2013 11:20PM

peppa 1986 wrote: »

This flight is going out of and back into Shannon Airport with children. Many children will not have passports. As long as valid ID is produced they will be fine. A birth cert for a child and ID for adults to ensure that names match tickets. It is not a flight from one destination to another. It is going to and returning to the same place. Don't complicate this. It is a magical trip for children.

you say that as if its fact. unless you know it to be fact, then you should edit it, your getting a free flight and free magical trip, the least you could do is play by the rules.

Can you imagine how you will feel when all the kids get refused and blame you.

Here's the site: http://www.shannonairport.ie/gns/about-us/latest-news/SantaFlights.aspx
under the terms and conditions it says
10. All passengers must bring photo I.D.
other than a passport what photo Id does a Kids have?

angelfire9 · 11-12-2013 11:21PM

A birthcert is sufficient ID for this trip
I spoke to the airport and confirmed this
As the flight is landing at Shannon and not leaving Shannon airspace you do not need a passport for kids
Parents will need valid photo ID

codie · 11-12-2013 11:49PM

ted1 wrote: »

yes it is rubbish, as you said

and i then showed you their terms and conditions which are available for all to see. as oppose to only being made available after you book which is what you said

Calm down Ted maybe they changed terms and conditions.This happened me in Feb 2011.I am not slating Ryan air I just saying what happened me ..Have you ever traveled internal flight.They are hardly going to look for passports on a free flight from shannon to Shannon
Natlor stated a passport is only needed when traveling to another country all I was doing was pointing out you need one for internal flights too.You even went to the bother of quoting their webpage to prove me right.I didn't relise my passport was out of date until after I booked the flight.I was never going to get my money back so I gave it a try as it was one way but that didn't work out.

Tayla · 12-12-2013 12:06AM

I bet they will be selling lots of overpriced Christmas stuff on board, they will make a good bit of their money back!

Anyone going is also entitled to some duty free shopping before they go which is great.

Hope everyone who gets tickets enjoys it!

angelfire9 · 12-12-2013 02:27AM

Tayla wrote: »

I bet they will be selling lots of overpriced Christmas stuff on board, they will make a good bit of their money back!

Anyone going is also entitled to some duty free shopping before they go which is great.

Hope everyone who gets tickets enjoys it!

Not duty free but duty paid
http://shannonaviation.com/shopping-in-shannon-airport/

Some nice stuff though

Patrickheg · 12-12-2013 05:56AM

Tayla wrote: »

I bet they will be selling lots of overpriced Christmas stuff on board, they will make a good bit of their money back!

Anyone going is also entitled to some duty free shopping before they go which is great.

Hope everyone who gets tickets enjoys it!

Do you ever research what you type or do you just make everything up because the above couldn't be further from the truth!!

Or are you trying to make fools of those vulnerable people who take your post as actual facts

holidaygirl · 12-12-2013 07:46AM

We have been lucky enough to get 4 seats on one of these flights. I've confirmed that photo Id for parents and a birth cert is suffice for the children. I applied within an hour of seats been offered but only got confirmation yesterday evening (was in my trash folder) haven't told the kids yet will wait till closer to the time.!

I think it's a great opportunity mine haven't been on a plane before. The airport will make money in parking and perhaps food, and some shopping and plenty of PR. But I do agree with other poster it's a pity they didn't collect 5 or 10 euro per person for some charity.

Tayla · 12-12-2013 09:20AM

angelfire9 wrote: »

Not duty free but duty paid
http://shannonaviation.com/shopping-in-shannon-airport/

Some nice stuff though

Sorry about that, read it earlier and thought it said duty free.

Patrickheg wrote: »

Do you ever research what you type or do you just make everything up because the above couldn't be further from the truth!!

Or are you trying to make fools of those vulnerable people who take your post as actual facts

WTF? I made a mistake about the duty.

loveisdivine · 12-12-2013 10:42AM

ozmo wrote: »

+1 on the bah humbug indeed - think of the environment - 24 planes circling the city going nowhere.
I'm sure someone can give exact figures - but I read each 737 burns about 1 gallon of fuel a second - (or 18.5 L of fuel per seat per hour)
Wasteful.

Surely you realise by now that any environmental concerns always come second to "de kids". As long as they're enjoying themselves thats all that matters right.

I agree that its incredibly wasteful.

Tea 1000 · 12-12-2013 10:53AM

loveisdivine wrote: »

Surely you realise by now that any environmental concerns always come second to "de kids". As long as they're enjoying themselves thats all that matters right.

I agree that its incredibly wasteful.

Do you go on holidays to foreign countries? Is it OK for you to damage the environment for your fun, but not OK for kids to have fun while damaging it?

millies23 · 12-12-2013 11:00AM

I am way behind 8th ball here & prob haven't a hope at this stage but I tried both phone nos and got busy tone incessently. Tried the app form but it seems I have to purchase a 'doxillian document converter' for au$30 before I can open the doc. Can anyone advise what is this?

Free Santa flights on Ryanair around Shannon

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