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How to service your car

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    #302
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    anyone recommend a good small torque wrench for doing the spark plugs, one with a click when it reaches its desire torque value as I wouldn't risk just guessing.


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    #303
    Ded_Zebra
    Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    Chris_Heilong wrote: »
    anyone recommend a good small torque wrench for doing the spark plugs, one with a click when it reaches its desire torque value as I wouldn't risk just guessing.

    Lidl have them in at the moment I think (I saw them there on friday) good value too :)


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    #304
    Ronnie Beck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Ronnie Beck


    Ded_Zebra wrote: »
    Lidl have them in at the moment I think (I saw them there on friday) good value too :)


    Too high a torque?

    15 -20NM for plug isn't it


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    #305
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Ded_Zebra wrote: »
    Lidl have them in at the moment I think (I saw them there on friday) good value too :)

    off to lidl tomorrow then:D


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    #306
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Ronnie Beck wrote: »
    Too high a torque?

    15 -20NM for plug isn't it

    yeah...18NM, They have a 216 piece socket set for 89.99 coming in Thursday. Maybe that would work but it is a lot of money

    http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/SID-428438EF-975C2F6A/lidl_ri_ie/hs.xsl/index_30942.htm


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    #307
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    So I done the service on the car, sparks filters and oil. It was easy with the exception of the :mad:God damn hate it to hell, mofo oil filter being stuck on. 2 hours I tried to get the thing off, felt like it was wielded to the engine, bought a tool in halfords(20 euro) that didn't do squat only ended up scrapping the outside of the oil filter. Last resort screw driver and hammer, messy as Fook. Sorry for the rant but that thing put me off the self service experience.


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    #308
    Hal1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Well on the upside at least it will be easy to get off next time :cool:.


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    #309
    Ronnie Beck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Ronnie Beck


    Chris_Heilong wrote: »
    So I done the service on the car, sparks filters and oil. It was easy with the exception of the :mad:God damn hate it to hell, mofo oil filter being stuck on. 2 hours I tried to get the thing off, felt like it was wielded to the engine, bought a tool in halfords(20 euro) that didn't do squat only ended up scrapping the outside of the oil filter. Last resort screw driver and hammer, messy as Fook. Sorry for the rant but that thing put me off the self service experience.


    Don't let it put you off. That's only because it was previously replaced by an ape. If you put it back on properly it will come off by hand next time.
    The first time you service a new car expect problems with a rounded sump bung or undertray bolt.


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    #310
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    oh and here is another tip which I only realised now that it is a rainy day, make sure no engine oil spills in the engine bay while filling up as it can find its way to the wheels and is potentially dangerous, the car was slipping a bit when I was making sharp turns, will need to drive very slow for the next few days.


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    #311
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Chris_Heilong wrote: »
    So I done the service on the car, sparks filters and oil. It was easy with the exception of the :mad:God damn hate it to hell, mofo oil filter being stuck on. 2 hours I tried to get the thing off, felt like it was wielded to the engine, bought a tool in halfords(20 euro) that didn't do squat only ended up scrapping the outside of the oil filter. Last resort screw driver and hammer, messy as Fook. Sorry for the rant but that thing put me off the self service experience.

    Clean well then use some brute force

    a-guide-to-changing-the-motorcyle-oil-part-1-53016_6.jpg

    t70425.jpg


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    #312
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Or one of these bad boys!

    3-leg-filter-wrench.jpg


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    #313
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    dgt wrote: »
    Clean well then use some brute force

    a-guide-to-changing-the-motorcyle-oil-part-1-53016_6.jpg

    t70425.jpg

    That top tool is the one I bought, all it did was scrape and bend the Oil filter. The one BX posted looks good, shame halfords didnt have one, also on the Civic the damn axle is directly under the filter.


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    nct tester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 361 ✭✭nct tester


    http://www.amazon.com/Locking-Fliter-Wrench-Filters-Cylinder/dp/B003771FZM

    does the job very well and works great in places with small leverage space


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    #315
    eringobragh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭eringobragh


    hmmm....they are all great and all lads, I own all those products

    but the cup wrench beats all hands down! stick into ratchet and no slipping on filter as its an exact fit

    fram-sp6663a-oil-filter-cup-wrench-photo-01.jpg


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    #316
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭gooner99


    Anyone ever dig a sort of trench or similar in the garden as an alternative to axle stands or ramps?

    Then you could drive the car over it and remove the oil plug and filter more easily. Would it be a good/bad idea?


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    #317
    kiddums
    Registered Users Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭kiddums


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Anyone ever dig a sort of trench or similar in the garden as an alternative to axle stands or ramps?

    Then you could drive the car over it and remove the oil plug and filter more easily. Would it be a good/bad idea?
    If you mean like a pit, then I would say this would be a bad idea. There's a reason garages don't use pits anymore. And they were concrete.


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    #318
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭gooner99


    kiddums wrote: »
    If you mean like a pit, then I would say this would be a bad idea. There's a reason garages don't use pits anymore. And they were concrete.

    Not really a full pit. The garden slopes, so was thinking maybe dig a short trench from the slope in,so as when the car is parked on the top of the slope there is an area where you can easily get under the car.


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    #319
    cletus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cletus


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Not really a full pit. The garden slopes, so was thinking maybe dig a short trench from the slope in,so as when the car is parked on the top of the slope there is an area where you can easily get under the car.


    You'd need to build retaining walls at the sides and back to stop the earth falling in, and you'd probably need to lay a concrete base as well.

    Halfords sell axle stands for €30ish, much easier imo


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    #320
    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭gooner99


    cletus wrote: »
    You'd need to build retaining walls at the sides and back to stop the earth falling in, and you'd probably need to lay a concrete base as well.

    Halfords sell axle stands for €30ish, much easier imo

    Yes probably right. Axle stands or ramps that is the question.


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    #321
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,426 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Anyone ever dig a sort of trench or similar in the garden as an alternative to axle stands or ramps?

    Then you could drive the car over it and remove the oil plug and filter more easily. Would it be a good/bad idea?

    I used to have a yard with a sloped entrance. Used to park the car facing up with the wheels at the point where it started sloping.

    Very handy cos you could just reach in and undo the sump nut, redo it, then roll the car onto the flat and fill the oil.

    Wouldn't work on my current car though as you have to get underneath to get at the filter.


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    #322
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Yes probably right. Axle stands or ramps that is the question.

    Halfords ramps only support 14" tyres, so fine for my Civic but any other car I will need to use stands.


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    #323
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,126 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Yes probably right. Axle stands or ramps that is the question.

    I've been using ramps for the last year or so and find them great. So much quicker than getting the car on axle stands and I feel safer doing it too. The angle is too high on them (bumper of the car too low) so I use 2 thick ends of timber to get the car onto the start of the ramp a bit more gradually


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    #324
    ardle1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    gooner99 wrote: »
    Anyone ever dig a sort of trench or similar in the garden as an alternative to axle stands or ramps?

    Then you could drive the car over it and remove the oil plug and filter more easily. Would it be a good/bad idea?
    gooner99 wrote: »
    Not really a full pit. The garden slopes, so was thinking maybe dig a short trench from the slope in,so as when the car is parked on the top of the slope there is an area where you can easily get under the car.

    Gooner do what I did a few years ago, buy an oil extractor pump,I change my oil regulary (top tip),
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-5Liter-Oil-Changer-Vacuum-Fluid-Extractor-Pump-Tank-Remover-/251309415831


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    #325
    Hal1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    These oil extractors are generally frowned upon. This is because of the oil that remains inside the sump. When you mix that with the swarf particles you get sludge and over time lodges itself. If the oil pickup gets blocked then it's game over. Just remember gravity is your friend :).


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    #326
    Esel
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    ardle1 wrote: »
    Gooner do what I did a few years ago, buy an oil extractor pump,I change my oil regulary (top tip),
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-5Liter-Oil-Changer-Vacuum-Fluid-Extractor-Pump-Tank-Remover-/251309415831
    Jebus, you could have found a cheaper one!

    Not your ornery onager



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    #327
    ardle1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    ardle1 wrote: »
    Gooner do what I did a few years ago, buy an oil extractor pump,I change my oil regulary (top tip),
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-5Liter-Oil-Changer-Vacuum-Fluid-Extractor-Pump-Tank-Remover-/251309415831
    Hal1 wrote: »
    These oil extractors are generally frowned upon. This is because of the oil that remains inside the sump. When you mix that with the swarf particles you get sludge and over time lodges itself. If the oil pickup gets blocked then it's game over. Just remember gravity is your friend :).
    Esel wrote: »
    Jebus, you could have found a cheaper one!

    Forgot to mention once or twice a year I do actually drain it from the sump.

    And that's not the actual extractor, that's just a quick link I grabbed.. Anyway I find it an absolute God send, well for anyone doing big miles like myself.(taxi man)


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    #328
    sebastianlieken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭sebastianlieken


    I've went and bought a fuel filter for my Golf mk5 1.6fsi. Never changed a fuel filter before.

    Has anyone any words of wisdom?

    I assume it's just a case of remove and replace...


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    #329
    Hal1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Well safety first etc. Firstly you will need to depressurise the fuel. Remove the relay for the fuel pump and crank her over a few times to ensure pressure has gone and will no longer start. Have a container for excess fuel in the lines. Use a proper pair of axel stands and not the ****ty one that's supplied with the car.


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    #330
    sebastianlieken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭sebastianlieken


    Hal1 wrote: »
    Well safety first etc. Firstly you will need to depressurise the fuel. Remove the relay for the fuel pump and crank her over a few times to ensure pressure has gone and will no longer start. Have a container for excess fuel in the lines. Use a proper pair of axel stands and not the ****ty one that's supplied with the car.

    okie doki, so i assume that if i remove the relay, the fuel pump wont activate, meaning the engine will fire up from whatever pressurised fuel is still in the lines and then cut out almost immediatly?

    that should be grand, i'll make sure I put a towel over it aswell when I disconnect it just incase.

    I hope there isn't too much risk of damaging the fuel lines when disconnecting the old one? Are they a pain in the ass to detatch?


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    #331
    Hal1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Well I've only changed one on a ford which uses a quick release method. I'm not sure about other brands though.


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