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And the racist mayor is back with a bang

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  • #32
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    hfallada wrote: »
    Some African immigrants have an unemployment rate of 35% vs 6% for Chinese. I have never once heard a Chinese person demanding a house or welfare from the state. There is tens of Chinese in Ireland and you never hear of any issues with them. The same cant be said for other nationalities.

    There's millions of Irish people in Ireland and literally thousands of them are unemployed and live off the welfare state.

    Some of them get so many free pushchairs they leave.them at bus stops!


  • #33
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    It appears his stupidity is magnetic.


  • #34
    Sunglasses Ron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    I worked in a restaurant many years ago.

    Most Nigerians are not rude.

    However, a seriously disproportionate (compared to the general Irish population) are. No please, no thank you, barking orders. For service staff, and people like Scully who are in service to the public, that can grate on the soul. Also, all of the negative taxi experiences I have had (bar one) and most of the negative experiences I have heard of from friends, have been foreign drivers. Clueless about main road destinations, trying to snake change from a drunken 50, getting aggressive. They may be opinionated and like a rant but most Dublin taxi men are honest gents. So are most foreign drivers, but there are a fair few dodgy boyos amongst them. In all my years I have had one seriously drunk Irish taxi driver and one who was a strange bloke to talk to and whose cab stank of nappies- to a man all the rest were at the least efficient, at the best hilarious, helpful and all round good lads. If the fare is 10.20 they ask for a tenner, if the fare is 10.70 you know from their banter it's only right to give them 11.

    Of course, let's balance it out. You are more likely to get your head kicked in and mugged randomly by a gang of teenage Irish lads drinking cans of Dutch by the canal than you are of a group of Nigerian kids in the same poorly lit area. But the point remains- a disproportionate are rude ni public service situations, and a disproportionate amount of foreign taxi drivers are scammers. Swings and roundabouts.


    As for Roma, I never encountered one that wasn't a dirtbag. But that is just my personal experience. I'm sure I was just bad out of luck like Mr Scully :pac:


  • #35
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,487 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »
    he's still a gormless twat with no business in government

    He's the former mayor of f*cking Naas, not the Taoiseach.


  • #36
    joe swanson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    In amongst the rubbish he talked, the man does have a point re nigerians being ruder than average. Its not racist to point that out but the way he worded it was not good


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  • #37
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    He's the former mayor of f*cking Naas, not the Taoiseach.

    Yep mayor. Head of local government.

    DeadHand wrote: »
    This case always intrigued/worried me.

    In this country, politicians can be blatantly corrupt, proven liars, openly greedy, incompetent and utterly useless (to an extent that would see them banished from Westminister instantly) yet still retain their jobs. This person expresses some negative, ignorant views on a minority and he's out on his ear in record time.

    The worrying part is that another political figure (who isn't black or African) then reported his comments to the Gardai and publicised the fact in an apparent attempt to demonstrate how wonderfully 'tolerant' and 'liberal' he is.

    We're on a slippery slope when one citizen feels compelled to report another to the authorities and criminalise him for expressing a view he personally finds distasteful.

    Excellent post.


  • #38
    diomed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    h2005 wrote: »
    As for those Italians jaysus!
    Did you ever see Italians queue? All up at the counter, and shouting.
    I loves me stereotypes. :)


  • #39
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Would Sub Saharan Scroungers be acceptable?

    Banned


  • #40
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    In some countries and cultures it is the done thing to be quite aggressive to the point of being abusive or even violent with officials you deal with over health or other benefits and entitlements. That is all this poor man was trying to get across.

    Jaysus, you managed it one sentence. This guy can't just stop digging.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #41
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Neil Andblomee wrote: »
    Well at least he's honest anyway, that's more than can be said for the other crowd.


    Who are "the other crowd"?


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  • #42
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Sunglasses Ron wrote: »


    As for Roma, I never encountered one that wasn't a dirtbag. But that is just my personal experience. I'm sure I was just bad out of luck like Mr Scully :pac:

    Should have watched the 6one news on RTE on Monday night then, you would have seen a young intelligent Roma lad who is applying to join An Garda Siochana.


  • #43
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,007 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Booomtown wrote: »
    Just heard this nut job mayor Darren Scully is back once again on Niall Boylan (don't ever listen to this show good god my god)

    This is the guy who said he wouldn't represent black Africans because they were aggressive... lost Fine Gael party whip because of it... and now welcomed back with open arms... AND here we go again, looks like he hasn't learned his lesson...




    Ah sure he met one Ugandan person who hates Nigerians so it's fine for him

    And then this beauty:



    Does he think it's somehow better to say discriminate against certain African countries instead of "all" black Africans? Well, a little better I suppose...

    Worst thing is people will agree with this clown

    Full article: http://universitytimes.ie/?p=22653
    someone should teach him to shut the f//k up and stop digging

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #44
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Nodin wrote: »
    Who are "the other crowd"?

    The ones that claim they aren't racialist, they're the real racialists!

    And foreigners.


  • #45
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    tbh I had wheedled and connived me way out of the dark continent only to wind up in f**king Naas I'd probably be fairly aggressive too


  • #46
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Bambi wrote: »
    tbh I had wheedled and connived me way out of the dark continent only to wind up in f**king Naas I'd probably be fairly aggressive too


    There's always the possibility that the problem is neither Naas nor the Africans but the Mayor hisself.


  • #47
    crockholm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    In fairness, it's the balubas coming into the town via the N7 are the one's he should be concerned about.


  • #48
    Sunglasses Ron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »
    Should have watched the 6one news on RTE on Monday night then, you would have seen a young intelligent Roma lad who is applying to join An Garda Siochana.

    Exactly what does one lad doing this have to do with the price of spuds? That is great stuff altogether but as a general look at their culture I think this is more telling

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522888/Romanians-arrested-seven-times-rate-Britons-London.html

    I'm going to hazard a wee guess that of those arrested, a somewhat high proportion of them are Roma as opposed to regular Romanians.


  • #49
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I never liked Roma, more of a Dolmio man


  • #50
    camel jockey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭camel jockey


    efb wrote: »
    I never liked Roma, more of a Dolmio man

    I prefer to make my own. Only takes a few minutes and much healthier.


  • #51
    camel jockey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭camel jockey


    Bambi wrote: »
    tbh I had wheedled and connived me way out of the dark continent only to wind up in f**king Naas I'd probably be fairly aggressive too

    These lads are welcome to head back home any time they feel like it...


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  • #52
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,497 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Booomtown wrote: »
    Just heard this nut job mayor Darren Scully is back once again on Niall Boylan (don't ever listen to this show good god my god)

    This is the guy who said he wouldn't represent black Africans because they were aggressive... lost Fine Gael party whip because of it... and now welcomed back with open arms... AND here we go again, looks like he hasn't learned his lesson...




    Ah sure he met one Ugandan person who hates Nigerians so it's fine for him

    And then this beauty:



    Does he think it's somehow better to say discriminate against certain African countries instead of "all" black Africans? Well, a little better I suppose...

    Worst thing is people will agree with this clown

    Full article: http://universitytimes.ie/?p=22653

    I think he is right in what he said. His statement was based on his personal experiences and if he felt that a certain demographic were being rude, obnoxious and boisterous then he is entitled to tell this people to take a hike


  • #53
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    Ireland has progressed so much but man, the level of ignorance is still outstanding. Always displayed in threads like these.
    camel jockey wrote: »
    These lads are welcome to head back home any time they feel like it...
    There are some people here not out of choice but necessity. You can't assume their backstory.

    We pretend to welcome everyone with open arms in this country. Some however, are more welcome than others...


  • #54
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,497 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    Ireland has progressed so much but man, the level of ignorance is still outstanding. Always displayed in threads like these.


    There are some people here not out of choice but necessity. You can't assume their backstory.

    We pretend to welcome everyone with open arms in this country. Some however, are more welcome than others...
    I welcome anyone who is polite, courteous and wants to integrate into the community. I don't welcome loud mouthed pushy uneducated rude I'll mannered people.


  • #55
    camel jockey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭camel jockey


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    Ireland has progressed so much but man, the level of ignorance is still outstanding. Always displayed in threads like these.


    There are some people here not out of choice but necessity. You can't assume their backstory.

    We pretend to welcome everyone with open arms in this country. Some however, are more welcome than others...

    Necessity? The vast majority from the country in question are here for purely economic reasons, and got to stay because of rules around children, despite having bogus asylum applications rejected.


  • #56
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    camel jockey wrote: »
    Necessity? The vast majority from the country in question are here for purely economic reasons, and got to stay because of rules around children, despite having bogus asylum applications rejected.

    What? Can you give us some evidence please for this claim that people are staying here even though their bogus asylum applications are rejected?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #57
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    ted1 wrote: »
    I welcome anyone who is polite, courteous and wants to integrate into the community. I don't welcome loud mouthed pushy uneducated rude I'll mannered people.

    So you have a big problem with americans:D


  • #58
    camel jockey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭camel jockey


    mango salsa wrote: »
    What? Can you give us some evidence please for this claim that people are staying here even though their bogus asylum applications are rejected?

    :rolleyes:

    Read all about it here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/asylum_seekers_and_refugees/refugee_status_and_leave_to_remain/leave_to_remain.html


  • #59
    rugbyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭rugbyman


    Mango, you asked camel jockey for evidence,
    I note you are a moderator, and also I dont know if you disbelieve camel j. Or you would like other s on here to have evidence available on screen.
    I dont know how to show links but I do know that out of the first 5000 asylum seeker applications from Nigerian people that only TWO were approved.
    I have no way of knowing how many of those refused left this country, but I think few did.
    At the start of the great arrivals of asylum seekers, of various nationalities, children born here were deemed Irish.We voted to change that since. afaik the parents of the Irish children are entitled to stay until the children are 18.
    Regards


  • #60
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    camel jockey wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    Read all about it here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/asylum_seekers_and_refugees/refugee_status_and_leave_to_remain/leave_to_remain.html

    How many applications for leave to remain have been granted?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #61
    camel jockey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭camel jockey


    mango salsa wrote: »
    How many applications for leave to remain have been granted?

    Bing it. Knock yourself out. Prove me wrong.


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