And the racist mayor is back with a bang

Booomtown

Just heard this nut job mayor Darren Scully is back once again on Niall Boylan (don't ever listen to this show good god my god)

This is the guy who said he wouldn't represent black Africans because they were aggressive... lost Fine Gael party whip because of it... and now welcomed back with open arms... AND here we go again, looks like he hasn't learned his lesson...

After the event, the good thing that came out of all this, was that I was contacted by a lot of groups and organisations, particularly from the African community themselves. I met with a few individuals, and it’s kind of funny: I met with one gentleman who was from Uganda, and he said to me if you had said that you wouldn’t deal with any more Nigerians, you would have been perfect, you know? He said ‘we’re Ugandans and we hate Nigerians’. Same way other people from other African countries say ‘we hate Nigerians’ because of the way they come across: their cultures, their traditions.

Ah sure he met one Ugandan person who hates Nigerians so it's fine for him

And then this beauty:

I said black Africans. Now I really shouldn’t have even said black Africans. I should have said certain people from a certain part of Africa. That’s what I should have said. And the mistake was that I generalised. I said all black Africans. And that was a mistake. But I had issues, issues with certain nationalities, which I’m not going to discuss now. There’s no point. Certain nationalities from the continent of Africa who are very demanding. And I had been thrown the race card several times. Now, I don’t like that. I don’t like being bullied and threatened by any person. And that’s what really kind of annoyed me

Does he think it's somehow better to say discriminate against certain African countries instead of "all" black Africans? Well, a little better I suppose...

Worst thing is people will agree with this clown

Full article: http://universitytimes.ie/?p=22653

Lapin

This is your first post.

Cards on table OP.

Whats your agenda?

Mint Aero

Sounds like a man a me own heart Op. Loves the blaquesman. Fancy a pint?

Booomtown

Lapin wrote: »

This is your first post.

Cards on table OP.

Whats your agenda?

lost my username and password and can't for the life of me remember my old account! jusst seemed like typical AH stuff really!

Guill

I hate white Europeans, no wait, I hate Germans, no wait, I hate white white people from a certain part of Europe.....

Lapin

Booomtown wrote: »

Worst thing is people will agree with this clown

Maybe, but most people don't give two fúcks.


Are you Ugandan or Nigerian yourself OP?

If not, why are you getting offended on their behalf?

Foxhound38

If he doesn't stop digging he's going to end up in Nigeria - and he'll be really pi$$ed off then!

wp_rathead

"All black africans
No wait that is generalising to much- which is wrong
I meant all Nigerians"

Muppet

Booomtown

Lapin wrote: »

Maybe, but most people don't give two ****s.


Are you Ugandan or Nigerian yourself OP?

If not, why are you getting offended on their behalf?

no I'm not but if we left the minorities to fend for themselves then we'd still be stuck in the dark ages ...

Lapin

Booomtown wrote: »

no Im not but if we left the minorities to fend for themselves then we'd still be stuck in the dark ages ...

They're well able to fend for themselves.

donvito99

Duplicate Accounts OP?

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Mint Aero

Booomtown wrote: »

no I'm not but if we left the minorities to fend for themselves then we'd still be stuck in the dark ages ...

lol

Booomtown

donvito99 wrote: »

Duplicate Accounts OP?

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Well it would be about a year like since I used the old one I'd say but if I could find the original Darren Scully thread Im sure I posted in that too so seemed like an appropriate time to set up an account!

picked up on broadsheet actually:

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/12/10/the-long-talk-to-freedom/

Festy

foggy_lad

I would think this guy would hate dealing with most americans also as they can get very vocal and animated and all up in your face when asserting their welfare and other entitlements and rights etc

h2005

foggy_lad wrote: »

I would think this guy would hate dealing with most americans also as they can get very vocal and animated and all up in your face when asserting their welfare and other entitlements and rights etc

As for those Italians jaysus!

Neil Andblomee

Well at least he's honest anyway, that's more than can be said for the other crowd.

HomelessMidge

Booomtown wrote: »

Does he think it's somehow better to say discriminate against certain African countries instead of "all" black Africans? Well, a little better I suppose...

He's wrong and right in a way. I believe he is talking about the other countries as any other country, the fact he said black doesn't help. To make a sweeping generalisation that everyone from a certain country is demanding, well that was wrong too, but it's just like me saying I hate everyone from cavan. I don't think he meant to be racist but it does come across a bit racist as he brought skin colour into it.

HomelessMidge

Booomtown wrote: »

no I'm not but if we left the minorities to fend for themselves then we'd still be stuck in the dark ages ...

Now that's just a silly thing to say. Look at the Irish in America, they were left to fend for themselves and they done alright. They thrived really. Line up 10 Americans and atleast one will have some Irish roots.

Booomtown

HomelessMidge wrote: »

Now that's just a silly thing to say. Look at the Irish in America, they were left to fend for themselves and they done alright. They thrived really. Line up 10 Americans and atleast one will have some Irish roots.

fair point but I'm sure there were definitely people to stand up for the Irish too. like I just don't think racism is right. don't get your argument like, but I do see where you're coming form

foggy_lad

In some countries and cultures it is the done thing to be quite aggressive to the point of being abusive or even violent with officials you deal with over health or other benefits and entitlements. That is all this poor man was trying to get across.

hansfrei

Ex-mayor should print out some fliers to explain the cultural differences to people arriving in Dublin airport.



I suspect a lot of people will be getting the same flier, week in, week out.

Vitaliorange

Booomtown wrote: »

Just heard this nut job mayor Darren Scully is back once again on Niall Boylan (don't ever listen to this show good god my god)

This is the guy who said he wouldn't represent black Africans because they were aggressive... lost Fine Gael party whip because of it... and now welcomed back with open arms... AND here we go again, looks like he hasn't learned his lesson...




Ah sure he met one Ugandan person who hates Nigerians so it's fine for him

And then this beauty:



Does he think it's somehow better to say discriminate against certain African countries instead of "all" black Africans? Well, a little better I suppose...

Worst thing is people will agree with this clown

Full article: http://universitytimes.ie/?p=22653

Well he can't be called a racist if he discriminates based on nationality.

Eight Ball

He's just saying what many think.

Lando Griffin

foggy_lad wrote: »

In some countries and cultures it is the done thing to be quite aggressive to the point of being abusive or even violent with officials you deal with over health or other benefits and entitlements. That is all this poor man was trying to get across.

....and apparently other cultures to scam the **** out of said benefits and entitlements our own included.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Eight Ball wrote: »

He's just saying what many think.

he's still a gormless twat with no business in government

hansfrei

Eight Ball wrote: »

He's just saying what many think.

White people. Bunch of fcuking racists.

hfallada

Some African immigrants have an unemployment rate of 35% vs 6% for Chinese. I have never once heard a Chinese person demanding a house or welfare from the state. There is tens of Chinese in Ireland and you never hear of any issues with them. The same cant be said for other nationalities.

DeadHand

This case always intrigued/worried me.

In this country, politicians can be blatantly corrupt, proven liars, openly greedy, incompetent and utterly useless (to an extent that would see them banished from Westminister instantly) yet still retain their jobs. This person expresses some negative, ignorant views on a minority and he's out on his ear in record time.

The worrying part is that another political figure (who isn't black or African) then reported his comments to the Gardai and publicised the fact in an apparent attempt to demonstrate how wonderfully 'tolerant' and 'liberal' he is.

We're on a slippery slope when one citizen feels compelled to report another to the authorities and criminalise him for expressing a view he personally finds distasteful.

iDave

Fair play to him

folan

the attitude that only victims of racism should report racism, and that any form of racism is acceptable, as put forward by some, is totally unacceptable.

Have a good look at yourself.

Fratton Fred

hfallada wrote: »

Some African immigrants have an unemployment rate of 35% vs 6% for Chinese. I have never once heard a Chinese person demanding a house or welfare from the state. There is tens of Chinese in Ireland and you never hear of any issues with them. The same cant be said for other nationalities.

There's millions of Irish people in Ireland and literally thousands of them are unemployed and live off the welfare state.

Some of them get so many free pushchairs they leave.them at bus stops!

Karl Stein

It appears his stupidity is magnetic.

Sunglasses Ron

I worked in a restaurant many years ago.

Most Nigerians are not rude.

However, a seriously disproportionate (compared to the general Irish population) are. No please, no thank you, barking orders. For service staff, and people like Scully who are in service to the public, that can grate on the soul. Also, all of the negative taxi experiences I have had (bar one) and most of the negative experiences I have heard of from friends, have been foreign drivers. Clueless about main road destinations, trying to snake change from a drunken 50, getting aggressive. They may be opinionated and like a rant but most Dublin taxi men are honest gents. So are most foreign drivers, but there are a fair few dodgy boyos amongst them. In all my years I have had one seriously drunk Irish taxi driver and one who was a strange bloke to talk to and whose cab stank of nappies- to a man all the rest were at the least efficient, at the best hilarious, helpful and all round good lads. If the fare is 10.20 they ask for a tenner, if the fare is 10.70 you know from their banter it's only right to give them 11.

Of course, let's balance it out. You are more likely to get your head kicked in and mugged randomly by a gang of teenage Irish lads drinking cans of Dutch by the canal than you are of a group of Nigerian kids in the same poorly lit area. But the point remains- a disproportionate are rude ni public service situations, and a disproportionate amount of foreign taxi drivers are scammers. Swings and roundabouts.


As for Roma, I never encountered one that wasn't a dirtbag. But that is just my personal experience. I'm sure I was just bad out of luck like Mr Scully :pac:

For Forks Sake

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

he's still a gormless twat with no business in government

He's the former mayor of f*cking Naas, not the Taoiseach.

joe swanson

In amongst the rubbish he talked, the man does have a point re nigerians being ruder than average. Its not racist to point that out but the way he worded it was not good

Lapin

For Forks Sake wrote: »

He's the former mayor of f*cking Naas, not the Taoiseach.

Yep mayor. Head of local government.

DeadHand wrote: »

This case always intrigued/worried me.

In this country, politicians can be blatantly corrupt, proven liars, openly greedy, incompetent and utterly useless (to an extent that would see them banished from Westminister instantly) yet still retain their jobs. This person expresses some negative, ignorant views on a minority and he's out on his ear in record time.

The worrying part is that another political figure (who isn't black or African) then reported his comments to the Gardai and publicised the fact in an apparent attempt to demonstrate how wonderfully 'tolerant' and 'liberal' he is.

We're on a slippery slope when one citizen feels compelled to report another to the authorities and criminalise him for expressing a view he personally finds distasteful.

Excellent post.

diomed

h2005 wrote: »

As for those Italians jaysus!

Did you ever see Italians queue? All up at the counter, and shouting.
I loves me stereotypes.

Hootanany

Would Sub Saharan Scroungers be acceptable?

Banned

K-9

foggy_lad wrote: »

In some countries and cultures it is the done thing to be quite aggressive to the point of being abusive or even violent with officials you deal with over health or other benefits and entitlements. That is all this poor man was trying to get across.

Jaysus, you managed it one sentence. This guy can't just stop digging.

Nodin

Neil Andblomee wrote: »

Well at least he's honest anyway, that's more than can be said for the other crowd.

Who are "the other crowd"?

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

As for Roma, I never encountered one that wasn't a dirtbag. But that is just my personal experience. I'm sure I was just bad out of luck like Mr Scully :pac:

Should have watched the 6one news on RTE on Monday night then, you would have seen a young intelligent Roma lad who is applying to join An Garda Siochana.

end of the road

Booomtown wrote: »

Just heard this nut job mayor Darren Scully is back once again on Niall Boylan (don't ever listen to this show good god my god)

This is the guy who said he wouldn't represent black Africans because they were aggressive... lost Fine Gael party whip because of it... and now welcomed back with open arms... AND here we go again, looks like he hasn't learned his lesson...




Ah sure he met one Ugandan person who hates Nigerians so it's fine for him

And then this beauty:



Does he think it's somehow better to say discriminate against certain African countries instead of "all" black Africans? Well, a little better I suppose...

Worst thing is people will agree with this clown

Full article: http://universitytimes.ie/?p=22653

someone should teach him to shut the f//k up and stop digging

Fratton Fred

Nodin wrote: »

Who are "the other crowd"?

The ones that claim they aren't racialist, they're the real racialists!

And foreigners.

Dyr

tbh I had wheedled and connived me way out of the dark continent only to wind up in f**king Naas I'd probably be fairly aggressive too

Nodin

Bambi wrote: »

tbh I had wheedled and connived me way out of the dark continent only to wind up in f**king Naas I'd probably be fairly aggressive too

There's always the possibility that the problem is neither Naas nor the Africans but the Mayor hisself.

crockholm

In fairness, it's the balubas coming into the town via the N7 are the one's he should be concerned about.

Sunglasses Ron

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Should have watched the 6one news on RTE on Monday night then, you would have seen a young intelligent Roma lad who is applying to join An Garda Siochana.

Exactly what does one lad doing this have to do with the price of spuds? That is great stuff altogether but as a general look at their culture I think this is more telling

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522888/Romanians-arrested-seven-times-rate-Britons-London.html

I'm going to hazard a wee guess that of those arrested, a somewhat high proportion of them are Roma as opposed to regular Romanians.

efb

I never liked Roma, more of a Dolmio man

camel jockey

efb wrote: »

I never liked Roma, more of a Dolmio man

I prefer to make my own. Only takes a few minutes and much healthier.

camel jockey

Bambi wrote: »

tbh I had wheedled and connived me way out of the dark continent only to wind up in f**king Naas I'd probably be fairly aggressive too

These lads are welcome to head back home any time they feel like it...