Man burned to death in Phoenix Park

seamus · 04-12-2013 02:35PM

Perhaps this guy found some level of cameraderie between the homeless and in the absence of any dependents, saw no reason not to spend his time with his friends, even sleeping outdoors with them. Perhaps he was even carrying around large sums of cash so he could look after them while he was with them.

Whatever the reason he was sleeping rough, no doubt the cash was the reason he was targetted.

Soft Falling Rain · 04-12-2013 02:57PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Just goes to show that wealth or access to resources isn't always the cause for homelessness

It is a bizarre circumstance though and one that shouldn't be over analysed. For most sleeping rough it is a situation arising from difficult circumstances surrounding them.

expectationlost · 04-12-2013 03:20PM

seamus wrote: »

Perhaps this guy found some level of cameraderie between the homeless and in the absence of any dependents, saw no reason not to spend his time with his friends, even sleeping outdoors with them. Perhaps he was even carrying around large sums of cash so he could look after them while he was with them.

Whatever the reason he was sleeping rough, no doubt the cash was the reason he was targetted.

and now we see the cameraderie he got, its no game

BraziliaNZ · 04-12-2013 03:27PM

P.Walnuts wrote: »

It would be hard for that to be the case, since it doesn't exist.

this is worth a read

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wick_effect

04-12-2013 04:06PM

Phoenix Park is meant to be our main park in Ireland. Can you imagine something similar happening in Hyde Park? Or Central Park? Or any major park around the world. It's insane to think that there have been many murders, rapes, and assaults happening there.

Soft Falling Rain · 04-12-2013 04:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Phoenix Park is meant to be our main park in Ireland. Can you imagine something similar happening in Hyde Park? Or Central Park? Or any major park around the world. It's insane to think that there have been many murders, rapes, and assaults happening there.

Every major park comes with danger. The Phoenix Park is quite vast and has areas that attracts trouble, including where this happened, the Wellington Monument. But I'm sure every major park has similar areas that would be dangerous at night.

dd972 · 04-12-2013 04:12PM

seamus wrote: »

Perhaps this guy found some level of cameraderie between the homeless and in the absence of any dependents, saw no reason not to spend his time with his friends, even sleeping outdoors with them. Perhaps he was even carrying around large sums of cash so he could look after them while he was with them.

Whatever the reason he was sleeping rough, no doubt the cash was the reason he was targetted.

Maybe the victim wasn't 'all there', not necessarily afflicted by learning disabilities or mentally handicapped, but naive about the sort of people he was associating with, selling your home for €130K and living in the street seems a bit odd, letting all the other homeless types, many of whom would be hardcore recidivists and junkies know you've access to any sort of ready cash seems odder still.

A lot of other people would have gone to the UK picked up a house to live in for £80-£100K like you can in a lot of towns and cities over there and banked the spare cash.

seamus · 04-12-2013 04:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Can you imagine something similar happening in Hyde Park? Or Central Park?

Uh, yes?

http://www.centralparkhistory.com/timeline/timeline_postww2.html

in the eight years from 1979 to 1986, thirty-five murders took place in Central Park alone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park#Crime

Crime has reduced drastically in central park since the 80's, but that's because the NYPD have been working hard at it.

It's a common feature of any open park in the world after dark, that people who don't want to be disturbed by police will make their way in there. As most articles note, however, parks tend to be many times safer than city streets, even in the dead of night.

04-12-2013 04:39PM

seamus wrote: »

Uh, yes?

http://www.centralparkhistory.com/timeline/timeline_postww2.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park#Crime

Crime has reduced drastically in central park since the 80's, but that's because the NYPD have been working hard at it.

It's a common feature of any open park in the world after dark, that people who don't want to be disturbed by police will make their way in there. As most articles note, however, parks tend to be many times safer than city streets, even in the dead of night.

That's what I mean- large areas of New York were horrible places to be... if I'm right, Times Square was a haven for junkies and crack-addicts in the 1980s, until it was cleaned up finally by Mayor Rudy Giuliani. It's insane to think that Dublin now seems to be like New York 20+ years ago.

What we need is for someone to come to power and actually want to clean the city up.

Femme_Fatale · 04-12-2013 11:24PM

I'd imagine living on the streets can be due to untreated severe mental illness pulling people in a strange direction.

snubbleste · 05-05-2015 06:43PM

He appears to have been severely tortured before being set on fire. Imagine the pain he went through :mad:

when gardai investigated, they found Mr Donnelly’s body on fire, with an aerosol can in his crotch area & a canister with a blow torch attached was also found at the scene
Pathologist Professor Marie Cassidy gave the cause of death as blunt force trauma to the head and noted areas of fire damage under the head and neck. She said that the skull was extensively fractured and the brain was injured, there was a v-shaped wound to a thumb and the left little toe had been freshly amputated.
The pathologist had concluded that he had received multiple blows to the head from a heavy object and that a lump hammer found beside the body could have been the weapon used.

http://www.thejournal.ie/homeless-man-phoenix-park-2085218-May2015/#comments

humanji · 05-05-2015 07:12PM

MOD: The case is before the courts, so we can't discuss it until the trial is over.

MOD: Trial is now over, so I've reopened the thread.

Man burned to death in Phoenix Park

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