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Maximus Alexander · 04-12-2013 01:00AM

OP, do you think that 100 years ago someone in Cork would have ever heard about a horse being burned in Dublin?

The reality is that we all get to hear about every nasty thing that happens anywhere in the world due to the ease of communication in the modern age. That doesn't mean unsavoury things are happening more regularly.

There have always been cunts.

MadsL · 04-12-2013 02:09AM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Well here's some CSO stuff which doesn't paint a pretty picture (and it's only up to 1998) but perhaps that's because I'm a glass half-full man and not a blind optimist.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-G4P7nZcQJ3U/Up5pFhBqN2I/AAAAAAAADD8/wEd46jH8hOc/s1600/CSO.PNG

and here

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y5Ev-qRXa0M/Up5pJvAYVUI/AAAAAAAADEE/0UQ42eq9dD4/s1600/cso+2.PNG

On the bright side we have stopped killing our own babies.

I'm a bit baffled that the CSO does not use crimes per 100,000. The population of Ireland has grown massively since 1949. That, and the fact detection rates have probably risen dramatically.

I suspect figures since the 1990s would show a dramatic decrease in violent crime.

gramar · 04-12-2013 08:19AM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

OP, do you think that 100 years ago someone in Cork would have ever heard about a horse being burned in Dublin?

The reality is that we all get to hear about every nasty thing that happens anywhere in the world due to the ease of communication in the modern age. That doesn't mean unsavoury things are happening more regularly.

There have always been cunts.

I don't think someone in Cork would have heard about it but the point which I've made in various posts is the downward spiral into which society seems to be slipping over the last 20 or 30 years. I think compared to say the 80's Ireland and the world in general is not a safer place.

To me there seems to be a lot more acts of random violence and depraved acts going on than before. Is this down to greater detection and blanket media coverage of everything? Perhaps. But I think there is more to it.

I think over the last 20-30 years people have become less tolerant, less patient, more competitive, suffer from more stress and mental health problems due to pressures that are generated by modern living. I think this is reflected by the rise in murders, physical violence and other perverse and depraved acts.

I just think that the general level of mental wellness in society is falling.
I don't know what it is due to, maybe it's the internet, consumerism, pressures to makes ends meet, peoples growoing sense of entitlement
and diminishing sense of responsibility or a combination of all of these things and more.

The world has always been fcuked up but recently just a little bit more so.

Lauren3142 · 04-12-2013 08:20AM

humanity is just gone.

Chrisita · 04-12-2013 09:37AM

has become very pronounced over the last 20 years, at the same time as mental health began to deteriorate, as a previous poster stated. I believe that the causes are probably environmental. It is proven that high levels of lead and copper is common amongst violent criminals. Poor diets full of refined sugars probably contribute to exacerbate the situation. The Guards had a cushy job in the 60 and 70,s, now it is a scary proposition to become one.

ScumLord · 04-12-2013 04:47PM

gramar wrote: »

I don't think someone in Cork would have heard about it but the point which I've made in various posts is the downward spiral into which society seems to be slipping over the last 20 or 30 years. I think compared to say the 80's Ireland and the world in general is not a safer place.

Depends on who you were, 80s Ireland wasn't a safe time to be a child.

To me there seems to be a lot more acts of random violence and depraved acts going on than before. Is this down to greater detection and blanket media coverage of everything? Perhaps. But I think there is more to it.

Of course it's down to more media coverage. Back pre 80s a black guy getting beat up probably wouldn't have been considered news.

I think over the last 20-30 years people have become less tolerant, less patient, more competitive, suffer from more stress and mental health problems due to pressures that are generated by modern living. I think this is reflected by the rise in murders, physical violence and other perverse and depraved acts.

The other thing you have to remember is that the human population is going through the roof. There's more competition because there's less resources to go around. You'd see the same reaction from any other animal on the planet if everything they depended on became more and more scarce.

I don't think there's any more depraved happening today than has happened in the past. I think over all depraved acts are on the decrease.

humans are under an awful lot of stress, we've changed our environment drastically and have yet to adapt to those changes, but we will adapt.

It's not going to get any easier over the next few decades either, bigger changes are coming through technology.

Chrisita · 07-12-2013 10:19PM

with much of what you say scumlord, I beleive that peoples capacity to cope with stress has greatly diminished. There is quite a bit of research to support my theories, for example in areas where mining and heavy industry causes high lead levels in a community, 20 years later there is an increased level of violence.

Lauren3142 · 08-12-2013 02:07PM

Ireland make it so hard for criminals and people brought up in disadvantaged areas to better themselves , i think it has something to do with that too. And that most of the adults that were born in the 60s/70s/80s were most likely malnourished as a child slowing down their mental development.I have also noticed with people that were in government care as children have grown up to commit crime, and we all know what happened in them care homes. I am surprised we haven't got a huge problem with crime,ours is quite tolerable when you compare it with statistics around the world.

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