Meltdown

If you think modern society is sick, you should look up some of the medieval torture devices they used, for example:

The Brazen Bull was a hollow brass statue crafted to resemble a real bull. Victims we­re placed inside, usually with their tongues cut out first. The door was shut, sealing them in. Fires would then be lit around the bull. As the victim succumbed to the searing heat inside, he would thrash about and scream in agony. The movements and sounds, muted by the bull's mass, made the apparatus appear alive, the sounds inside like those of a real bull. This effect created additional amusement for the audience, and served the added benefit of distancing them from the brutality of the torture, since they couldn't directly see the victim.

5live wrote: »

Source?

RTÉ news tonight showed big wind farm overlooking the house. Simply Google Wind Farms Autism for cases of distress caused by them.

Judgement Day wrote: »

But you can't be bothered to supply any links. :rolleyes: There's no point in saying life was more dangerous back when our ancestors lived in caves. It's a simple fact that compared to 30/40 years ago Ireland is a much less safe place today. Back then there was no drug problem/gang violence/random violence and homicides were extremely rare. Old people were generally left alone - even by criminals.

Ah look. Firstly I couldn't be bothered supplying links. Research it if you care. If we are localising things to Ireland you might be right, but I suspect a lot of it is due to increased population and the change in media.

Then again if we go back 30 years hundreds of people per year were dying in Sectarian violence, 60 years ago WWII... 93 years ago war of independence...Gulp back to the famine

Compared to any of those times, gangland crime is a statistical pimple. We are living in clover chief. Appreciate it.

RiverOfLove wrote: »

It's a world I don't want to be a part of anymore.

That's silly.

Equal to the amount of crime is charity work helping people, saving animals lives etc.
Most people are considerate and genuinely nice.

The world is not just evil. Yes evil things happen, but you can't look away from all the good just because there's some bad incidents.
And if you really don't want to be a "part of it". Then do your best to live for making lives around you better.

There's a wonderful satisfaction from being a part of doing good in society.

It was a lot worse years ago during the Troubles.

I can remember two RUC men were togged out for a charity run somewhere in Northern Ireland when they were shot dead point blank in front of parents and children.
There was another incident when a caretaker or cleaner who worked at a army base or police station got killed by a booby trap bomb in his car and his little daughter got blown out of the wreck and impaled on railings.
At the same time that Ray Houghton scored that amazing goal against Italy in the 1994 World Cup loyalist gunmen burst into a bar and gunned down the drinkers watching the game including an elderly man.
I can remember as a kid how 3 IRA people were gunned down by the SAS, then when the coffins came back to Ireland a loyalist opened fire on the mourners and threw grenades killing several people and then at one of the funerals of the victims two British soldiers drove their car into the crowd and were dragged out and lynched.
Worse there were people on all sides cheering what was going on.

Maybe this kind of senseless violence is more shocking now because psychopaths have no politics to justify randomly murdering people because they get off on it.

Some individuals have no consciences, no capacity to understand the pain they inflict on other people and get sexual enjoyment out of torturing and killing other living entities. I think these creatures - I don't call them humans - are a genetic throwback to a time before civilization when there was an evolutionary advantage to being brutal and pitiless. Unfortunately their genes have survived.

You can't train these people to be humans. Their evil natures are innate and the same as their pancreas or their kidneys or their liver or arms and legs.

You can only lock them up and keep them away from society.

The majority of people are good, are honest and want to help other people. Just because there are a minority of sick demented people does not mean the world is going down a sinkhole.

caustic 1 wrote: »

I remember as a young girl being shocked whenever hearing of a murder in Ireland because it was a rare thing. Now I am rarely shocked almost immune to murders. It's sad to say that I think only if it happened close to me now or to a family member would I be shocked.

doesn't mean murder was rare. Just that it was less reported/evidence found etc.

Statistics show crime is less now.

It also could be higher population.

Basically, say 1 in a 1000 people murdered. If you only have a 1000 people, then it's only when person. When you have 5000 people though, thats 5 people.

But doesn't mean murder has increased as such.
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I do think we hear alot more than we used to, and thats led to desensitisation. and the idea that things are really dangerous now.

its instinctive nature to be competitive... we are still animals after all... other animals will kill animals of the same species.. we are no different... sure we have laws to try protect each other but in all reality there has always been and will always be people that cross the line and commit murder. we are just more aware of it nowadays because of the media

I read that because the council did not come remove the dead horse, that some young upstanding models of local citizenry took it upon themselves to dispose of the carcass to prevent a health risk to the local community.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

the horse burners go on to burn men

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Judgement Day wrote: »

But you can't be bothered to supply any links. :rolleyes: There's no point in saying life was more dangerous back when our ancestors lived in caves. It's a simple fact that compared to 30/40 years ago Ireland is a much less safe place today. Back then there was no drug problem/gang violence/random violence and homicides were extremely rare. Old people were generally left alone - even by criminals.

Judgement Day wrote: »

Of course bad things happen but there's a lot more of it in 'Irish' society in 2013 than there was in the 50/60/70s (excluding a virtual civil war in NI) - it's not just down to more extensive, salacious news reporting.

www.cso.ie

Prove it.