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Bitcoin - ###Mod Note in 1st Post - Please Read###

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 361 ✭✭Filibuster


    Bitcoins are totally useless just like Tulips..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    But in essence, isn't it a great bubble? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭Kikin


    Filibuster wrote: »
    Bitcoins are totally useless just like Tulips..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania

    I wouldn't agree they are totally useless, they do have some intrinsic value but what's happening now is they have hugely deviated from their CURRENT intrinsic value, based on speculation of their future intrinsic value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    I think I am the most unlucky person in the world. I had 20 coins which I bought for €2, lent them to a friend to use on silk road, got in fight with friend and never got them back.

    that's a 20k kick in the balls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,729 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I've used them on Humble Bundle more than once.


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Up over 9% on the day now, that's a easy 2,100 Eur sine midnight.

    A 9% return is 2,100euro for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Going to burst very soon. Sheep marketplace has closed down and BMR is in the process of closing down.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can't even bother your arse Googling it - go on, as I said in my last post, put Ponzi Scheme into Google, and click the first link, and see if it bears any resemblance to bubbles like we're seeing now.

    Except you know I wasn't arguing what you're pretending I argued, but you want to hold onto that straw-man because it's the only single thing your argument is based on - get back to me when you've taken 5 seconds to type that into Google.

    Ponzi scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme‎
    A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from existing capital or new capital paid by new investors, rather than from ...



    One of us is being pretty stupid right now.. You can decide which after you learn what the above sentence actually means instead of what it sounds like.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    A 9% return is 2,100euro for you?

    Yes i have 1 to 10 leverage, i brought 5,000 contracts on plus500 at midnight.
    Profit as we speak is Eur 2670.93.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    leverage? they let you buy bitcoins on margin? so how much did you deposit to plus500, if you don't mind me asking.

    i'd about 3 coins on my galaxy s2 that was stolen by a junkie about 6 months ago. raging


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    leverage? they let you buy bitcoins on margin? so how much did you deposit to plus500, if you don't mind me asking.

    i'd about 3 coins on my galaxy s2 that was stolen by a junkie about 6 months ago. raging

    Yeah, i put in 5k yesterday, will be happy to double it and take out my first 5k and anything after that is money to play with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 361 ✭✭Filibuster


    Yeah, i put in 5k yesterday, will be happy to double it and take out my first 5k and anything after that is money to play with.

    I'm just imagining you going in to cash out just like Stan in South Park cashing his $100 cheque

    Annnnnnd it's gone....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭flas


    one of the lads in work kept asking me to buy some of him,back when they were about 70 or 80 euro for one,had no money at all to buy some and was comforting myself by telling myself sher I wouldn't make money of them anyway!feckin sickened now,I would have aold the minute it 1000 and ran with my money! he bought about 4000euro worth when they were 30wuro each,he has made a nice little profit from them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Price dropped by 25% yesterday (down to $850) at one point on the strength of a hoax about a private directory leaking online. That alone tells you just about elastic Bitcoin is and how quickly people will sell if in any doubt. Be careful out there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    usersame wrote: »
    It's not a money thing for a lot of people, this has potentially to serve humanity

    Surely a smug know-it-all like yourself spends half his life complaining about bankers, well bitcoins might well take away the power that central banks have
    It won't take away any power from the central banks, because the currency they use is grounded in government taxes - all government has to do is demand taxes in a particular currency, and that will become the dominant currency, because people will need to acquire it to pay their taxes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Can someone explain in simple English (for an idiot), how exactly this all works?
    the price is 1039 atm, is that per coin? or how many coins do I get for that?

    if I open an account with plus500, how long does it take for me to buy, and also to sell, I assume instant, but are we talking weeks for me to get my money?

    I see in 2011 the value of one Bitcoin rapidly rose from about $0.30 to $32, are we now saying it's at $1039:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
    Stay away - it is in the middle of deflating in value:
    https://blockchain.info/charts/market-price

    See:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Stages_of_a_bubble.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Ponzi scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme‎
    A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from existing capital or new capital paid by new investors, rather than from ...



    One of us is being pretty stupid right now.. You can decide which after you learn what the above sentence actually means instead of what it sounds like.
    Can someone who isn't being an obtuse twat, please click this link, search 'bubble', and report back if it says anything about economic bubbles?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,899 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Yes i have 1 to 10 leverage, i brought 5,000 contracts on plus500 at midnight.
    Profit as we speak is Eur 2670.93.

    Sounds like a good way to lose your shirt.
    5000 lodged and playing with cfds?
    I'm no expert in these things but in most basic terms a smallish daily dip would wipe you out with no opportunity for recovery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    The magic beans of the 21st century, I'd avoid like the plague.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    mickdw wrote: »
    Sounds like a good way to lose your shirt.
    5000 lodged and playing with cfds?
    I'm no expert in these things but in most basic terms a smallish daily dip would wipe you out with no opportunity for recovery.

    Who mentioned cfds? From what he has said he is just doing normal option trading.

    If he is shorting then he makes loads of money off a dip.

    If hedged correctly, then his real risk comes from his broker defaulting. Something I provided a link about earlier...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭usersame


    Lads buy quarks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    usersame wrote: »
    Lads buy quarks

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    how much per bitcoin now? ish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    how much per bitcoin now? ish

    715 yoyos, Quarks is where it's at now apparently :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭usersame


    The design of quarks allows for better security and distribution, they've increase from hugely in the past few days, and they're supposed to be traded in china soon, just have a punt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Sorry usersame, we just got comfortable on this bandwagon. Jumping to a new one is a lot of effort :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭usersame


    Don't say i didn't tell ye when I'm burning around in my new Lexus


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 222 ✭✭harryr711


    srsly78 wrote: »
    Sorry usersame, we just got comfortable on this bandwagon. Jumping to a new one is a lot of effort :)

    All the smart money is moving to quarks! SELL bitcoins, BUY quarks!!!!11 Bitcoin is so November.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    If people are trading tips about the "next big coin" on a public forum like this, then chances are you're already too late to get in and invest.

    Further to my previous post, I wasn't aware that a large number of competing cryptocurrencies were already well in full flight. Newsflash for people here: you're already too late. If you're thinking you can get in early and become a miner of an up-and-coming cryptocurrency, you're wrong. No harm to do so, it costs you nothing, but chances are any currency likely to be the "big thing" is already well past that stage.

    Quark, which people are mentioning here, appears to 98% allocated already. This is probably why people are getting excited about it - because it's very close to the point where no new quarks will be created. At the same time this rapid allocation means that you probably have a small number of people who got in early and are sitting on the bulk of the quarks. They're artificially driving up the price and will happily collapse it by flooding the market to cash out their quarks which they got for nothing.

    Which one will "win", who knows? All new concepts like this go through a chaotic stage where everyone jostles for position. Like the search engines, where Askjeeves and Yahoo appeared to have it all sown up, or social networking where people were convinced that MySpace was going to take over the world, you can't say for certain until everyone else has closed up shop and gone away. Bitcoin being the original and currently most popular is no guarantee of continued success.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭johnr1


    Can someone who isn't being an obtuse twat, please click this link, search 'bubble', and report back if it says anything about economic bubbles?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

    Thanks.

    Do you go into the smokers forum and shout "yeere allll gonna diiiiie" ?

    Do you post about how you hate "benders" in the lgbt forum ?

    Do you try to convince people in the Ladies Lounge that "All bitches be crazy" ?

    No? Cos that would be trolling right?

    What kind of person gets satisfaction from others misfortune or mistakes?

    Leave us alone.


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