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Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    Those almera's are cheap ....up the budget to just circa 2k, and you'd get nearly an 07 one.

    They can be cheap - but tell me how bad exactly is the chain stretching issue on the 1.5 Almeras - what I mean is - is it bad enough to say - don't touch one of those like Mazda 6 diesels - or is it something that's less relevant now they are at this money - if the car drives well etc, EML light comes on at start up and goes out (I know its not unknown for sellers of these to take the bulb out when theres an issue :()

    And is it only the crossmember under the radiator (I think) that rusts on the N16 or is the rest of the car a problem area for rust as well.

    I know the gearboxes are trouble on them - but assuming it changes gear nicely from cold, gearbox is quiet - and it all works well right through to warming up - should the gearbox still be okay then????.

    I know the timing chain issue would be a deal breaker a few years back at say 6 grand.

    But is that still the case now at a grand - ie are they still a no go.

    Not knocking the car by any means - but keen to hear views.

    I know some don't class them as the nicest things in the world to actually drive - but in this case - it only needs to be better then a 2.0 diesel non turbo Corolla of 99 vintage to "be perfectly okay"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Old diesel wrote: »
    They can be cheap - but tell me how bad exactly is the chain stretching issue on the 1.5 Almeras - what I mean is - is it bad enough to say - don't touch one of those like Mazda 6 diesels - or is it something that's less relevant now they are at this money - if the car drives well etc, EML light comes on at start up and goes out (I know its not unknown for sellers of these to take the bulb out when theres an issue :()

    And is it only the crossmember under the radiator (I think) that rusts on the N16 or is the rest of the car a problem area for rust as well.

    I know the gearboxes are trouble on them - but assuming it changes gear nicely from cold, gearbox is quiet - and it all works well right through to warming up - should the gearbox still be okay then????.

    I know the timing chain issue would be a deal breaker a few years back at say 6 grand.

    But is that still the case now at a grand - ie are they still a no go.

    Not knocking the car by any means - but keen to hear views.

    I know some don't class them as the nicest things in the world to actually drive - but in this case - it only needs to be better then a 2.0 diesel non turbo Corolla of 99 vintage to "be perfectly okay"

    The thing is they're not better than even a 2.0d corolla. The road holding and stability on those almera is dreadful and they're a pig on juice as well. Reliability as you know isn't the best in them either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭Nemeses2050


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    The thing is they're not better than even a 2.0d corolla. The road holding and stability on those almera is dreadful and they're a pig on juice as well. Reliability as you know isn't the best in them either.

    Does this apply to all the Almeras or to a specific year/engine size. what about the Almera's prior to Nissan-Renault collaboration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    The thing is they're not better than even a 2.0d corolla. The road holding and stability on those almera is dreadful and they're a pig on juice as well. Reliability as you know isn't the best in them either.

    Good stuff - was thinking that staying clear of them would be a good idea :).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    I took in lots of them almera on px's and sold them on, with a warranty offering, and no issues or comeback.....its like everything in cars, you only hear about the bad stories.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Does this apply to all the Almeras or to a specific year/engine size. what about the Almera's prior to Nissan-Renault collaboration.

    Pre Renault they were great cars. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Does this apply to all the Almeras or particular to a specific year/engine size. what about the Almera's prior to Nissan-Renault collaboration.

    The mk1 almera didn't have great road holding either as it used the same semi independent suspension setup as the mk2. It was a nicer to drive than the mk2 almera though and it had brilliant reliability to make up for it's shortcomings.

    The sunny that came before the almera had a proper independent suspension setup and actually felt more stable and weighted compared to the car that replaced it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    I took in lots of them almera on px's and sold them on, with a warranty offering, and no issues or comeback.....its like everything in cars, you only hear about the bad stories.

    Well to be fair - I do know of 2 of them (both 02s if it makes any difference) locally that have been in long term ownership - and still driving along. I won't be buying either of them though :).

    But they aren't really that appealing though - they still have issues - and probably don't have anything worthwhile to offer to justify moving from a Corolla.

    Yes a petrol engine would be nicer/more interesting then the 2.0 non turbo diesel - but the likes of Mitsubish Lancers, Focuses and other such stuff offer the same - without timing chain stretching issues and the like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    I took in lots of them almera on px's and sold them on, with a warranty offering, and no issues or comeback.....its like everything in cars, you only hear about the bad stories.

    I didn,t only hear the bad stories, I seen them with my own eyes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    I didn,t only hear the bad stories, I seen them with my own eyes.


    sure, yes, you, 1 person, singular...........v's the thousand of people who've had and do have them with no issues.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    sure, yes, you, 1 person, singular...........v's the thousand of people who've had and do have them with no issues.

    I've seen plenty of them giving issues(stretched chains, failed gearboxes, melted lights on the facelift, rotten crossmembers) to know how dreadful they are. If you think it's only me, look it up, I'm sure you will find plenty in the same boat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,579 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Sure remember all the ads for 4-5 year old Almeras years ago. Half of them said "new timing chain just fitted" or something like that..

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    I've seen plenty of them giving issues(stretched chains, failed gearboxes, melted lights on the facelift, rotten crossmembers) to know how dreadful they are. If you think it's only me, look it up, I'm sure you will find plenty in the same boat.

    yes John, you singular (again)..........and to be honest, look up any make or model car and you'll see all the bad news stories.......but rarely the good ones.....that's the point you continually miss and selectively evade


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Kaiser D


    1999 Ford Mondeo
    2.0 Petrol w/ LPG
    149k Miles
    NCT 6/14, Tax 1/14
    €950
    Advert seems very honest. I reckon a potential buyer could buy this for €800 and run it for a while. Though I'm not sure if €800 is still a bit steep for this? Opinions?

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lpg-converted-ford-mondeo/6066853
    25107350.jpeg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    yeah, €400 more like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Kaiser D wrote: »
    1999 Ford Mondeo
    2.0 Petrol w/ LPG
    149k Miles
    NCT 6/14, Tax 1/14
    €950
    Advert seems very honest. I reckon a potential buyer could buy this for €800 and run it for a while. Though I'm not sure if €800 is still a bit steep for this? Opinions?

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lpg-converted-ford-mondeo/6066853
    25107350.jpeg

    Well if you can access LPG - and the conversions been done okay - then it wouldn't be a bad buy at 800 euros - if it was in decent condition.

    Otherwise - some of the Primeras on here in the last day or so look more appealing.

    There was another 99 Mondeo Saloon - Ghia on this thread - about a week back I think - for similar money to this - with lower miles - and it looked a lot tidier.

    I like these Mondeos but this ones not floating my boat - maybe its the pic - or your mans description - but its not floating my boat.

    Could well be perfectly fine though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    yes John, you singular (again)..........and to be honest, look up any make or model car and you'll see all the bad news stories.......but rarely the good ones.....that's the point you continually miss and selectively evade
    Well just like you I can only relay my own experiences of these cars. I can't speak for anyone else out there.

    However the issues that effects the almera are widespread and well known.

    Im not missing or "selectively evading" any thing. Any negatives I've seen on the net have been backed up by my own experiences.

    Tbh I don't need to miss or evade any good point about the almera because there are no good points, these cars have nothing going for them. Many other cars in there class are far far better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    yeah, €400 more like

    On reflection based on the ad, picture and description - that's probably nearer the mark :(.

    I take it we are both referring to the poor old silver Mondeo :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Kaiser D


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    yeah, €400 more like

    Hah, I'd nearly be inclined to agree because a MK2 Mondeo isn't a particularly desirable car, but its got tax and 7 months NCT along with an LPG system, so you could run it for a while rather cheaply and get about €400 when the NCT runs out next June if you don't want to send it true.
    Old diesel wrote: »
    Well if you can access LPG - and the conversions been done okay - then it wouldn't be a bad buy at 800 euros - if it was in decent condition.

    Otherwise - some of the Primeras on here in the last day or so look more appealing.

    There was another 99 Mondeo Saloon - Ghia on this thread - about a week back I think - for similar money to this - with lower miles - and it looked a lot tidier.

    I like these Mondeos but this ones not floating my boat - maybe its the pic - or your mans description - but its not floating my boat.

    Could well be perfectly fine though :)

    I reckon its the photo. The car looks really untidy and tatty, some more photos might help the owner sell it.

    The description seems very honest to me. If I was in the market I reckon the description would make it worth a call tbh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Well just like you I can only relay my own experiences of these cars. I can't speak for anyone else out there.

    However the issues that effects the almera are widespread and well known.

    Im not missing or "selectively evading" any thing. Any negatives I've seen on the net have been backed up by my own experiences.

    Tbh I don't need to miss or evade any good point about the almera because there are no good points, these cars have nothing going for them. Many other cars in there class are far far better.

    well said John


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    05 lancer Sport

    Price is a little over the quota - but 2015 NCT

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-lancer-1-6-sport-new-nct/5952414


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    2001 Volvo S60 2.0 T

    Tax Jan, NCT June 2014

    Hate the wheels and the price would want to start moving downwards.

    Looks nice though

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-2-0t/6050752


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    2001 Primera 1.8

    111,000 miles

    NCT August 2014

    Tax Dec 2013

    850 euros

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/primera-nct-08-14-tax-12-13/5952959


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Kaiser D


    Old diesel wrote: »
    2001 Volvo S60 2.0 T

    Tax Jan, NCT June 2014

    Hate the wheels and the price would want to start moving downwards.

    Looks nice though

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-2-0t/6050752

    Those wheels are from an S80.

    Looks well imo, but the price is a bit much for a 01 with 150k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Is this too cheap for 2004 Mondeo petrol estate??? - seemed to be a few on done deal for this kind of small money

    I take it the oil consumption issue on Mk 3 1.8 Mondeos was only on 01/02 cars - yes???

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-mondeo-nctd-taxed-for-sale/6036822

    04 Mondeo 1.8 Estate

    130,000 kilometres

    NCT Sept 2014

    Tax April 2014

    1750 euros


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Kaiser D wrote: »
    Those wheels are from an S80.

    Looks well imo, but the price is a bit much for a 01 with 150k.

    Yes - price is cheeky for sure.

    Im sure it would sell for (quite a bit) less - when he realises his mistake when it doesn't sell :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭W123-80's


    Brand new test - Not sure for how long.
    Trade in accepted :pac:
    Diesel.
    Asking €750

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/99-citroen-xantia-turbo-diesel-new-nct-/5734706

    23442684.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭W123-80's


    Test 02/15
    Reg matches county its being sold in, which for some reason always makes me think its a bit more genuine then a lot of tat for sale.
    Auto
    Asking €750

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-new-nct/5812217

    24849133.jpeg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,579 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    W123-80's wrote: »
    Brand new test - Not sure for how long.

    Till October 2014 :)

    Not for everyone, but if I lived down the country in an area with bad roads, then for €500 I sure would :D

    Fine floaty boaty they are!

    My ads on adverts.ie:

    Victron stuff for sale, Multiplus-II, Quattro, other inverters and batteries and usually some watches!

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