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Are things genuinely tigering up again?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Sheldons Brain




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Don't be silly. Ya can't buy people! Even if they are made of lard!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭trashcan


    catallus wrote: »
    Don't be silly. Ya can't buy people! Even if they are made of lard!!!!

    Uuuuuuummmmmm.....lard people (in a Homer Simpson voice!):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Wait for the "This time is different" merchants to come along.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Skepticism in economic issues would be a healthy thing for us to have. At the moment though, if someone 10 years ago decided to forego buying a house and they saved the difference between renting and a potential mortgage they could likely afford somewhere now without a mortgage. Rent prices in Dublin are mental, being a cash buyer now would be pretty sweet.
    Things from where I am seemed to start improving around the start of last year. Some people ****ed off after college, most stayed and are working in the field they studied in in college. Things are still ****e compared to what they were promised when they were starting college but few of them are considering going to mainland Europe for a while when they hear the financial realities from the ones who did leave.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Fill up your boots with bank shares!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    Wait for the "This time is different" merchants to come along.

    This kind of negativity is just the kind of loose talk that could be bad for the new gravy train! Down with this sort of thing!

    It is so obvious that now is the time to buy everything!! Of course it is different it's like a different year and everything??? It's the economy!!! Stupid?


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    Wait for the "This time is different" merchants to come along.

    Yeah because the only 2 possibilities are recession or 5% inflation and 10% increases in property prices.
    Good point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    I dunno, I heard they're getting a shipment of Caspian tigers to Dublin Zoo this weekend though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


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    Brick boxes getting more expensive, particularly in Dublin

    Jobless numbers down slightly

    Enda has successfully put the huge national debt on the long finger for the next century or so.

    Is this just a temporary halt before the country slides further into oblivion or are things actually looking up for once and not the usual "turned a corner, soft landing, green shoots of recovery" bullsiht we have been hearing about since 2008?

    Shall we have the AH beers in Cafe en Seine instead? Should I pack up my job, buy a house, power wash it and sell it for €10,000 more than I paid for it next week?


    Buy a house? Why not buy 10? Sure property values only go one way and that is up.

    If you buy 10, you'll be on a rocket-ride to the moon! And while you're there, would you pick up some of that nice, green moon money for me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭camel jockey


    What is a 'brick box'?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    It's a box, made of brick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    catallus wrote: »
    It's a box, made of brick.

    Very informative


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Frynge wrote: »
    Very informative

    And concise. You forgot to say concise.

    Anyway it occurred to me at about half nine that if they raise interest rates by even a quarter of a percent I am actually literally fcuked, so I went to the offie, and things are improving ever so slightly :)


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Lennox Poor Semicircle


    catallus wrote: »
    Anyway it occurred to me at about half nine that if they raise interest rates by even a quarter of a percent I am actually literally fcuked

    Jaysus they were offering some mad deals on mortgages so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


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    Where I am, it's still 2009, and the tumbleweed is drifting by. Dublin is getting all the jobs, all the infrastructural projects and all the inward investment. Rest of the country is going a different direction. There will be a severe imbalance in the next five years between the eastern fringe and the rest of us. Stress on property supply, water resources and jobs. Oh, and we need to leave the Euro, as soon as we can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Janedoe10


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    This part 'the number of people signing on to the Live Register fell by 3,700 in October'. Is the gov massaging the figures /patting themselves on back as we skip out of the "bailout emergency"

    They have admitted the internships are considered employed so that prog is skewing the numbers..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Aestivalis


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    Not a chance. This country wont be right for years. I cant see anything getting better for 5-10 years AT LEAST.
    Unemployment figures are actualyl much much higher than the government says they are. its way above 20% thats for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


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    Not much of a massaging exercise since there are only about 20,000 Jobbridge placements out of a workforce of 2.1 million. And there must be as much immigration as there is emigration. Plenty of shop jobs for East Europeans.

    Someone just said Jobbridge are counted in the employment figures, i'm not sure.

    Anyway, ain't emigration still higher than immigration? They're talking about the year Apr 2012-Apr 2013 in the following http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/generationemigration/2013/08/29/more-than-50000-irish-emigrated-during-2012/
    The number of people emigrating from Ireland continues to rise as 89,000 people left the State in the year to April, an increase of 2.2 per cent on the previous 12 months.Figures published today by the Central Statistics Office show 50,900 Irish people emigrated in the period, up from 46,500 last year.

    The number of people immigrating also increased by 6 per cent from 52,700 to 55,900, the highest figure since 2009 when 73,700 people moved here from other countries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Does this mean I might eventually find out what a tracker mortgage is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    ^^^^^^^^^

    That's exactly what I said to the girl in the bank who sold me my mortgage!

    She just smiled and told me not to worry. She was nice :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭diograis


    catallus wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^

    That's exactly what I said to the girl in the bank who sold me my mortgage!

    She just smiled and told me not to worry. She was nice :)

    just means your mortgage payments vary according to interest rates set by someone important. Can go up as well as down depending on the times etc etc.

    Not sure if you're joking but sure :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Does this mean they'll be lowering taxes again and building back up the strategic cocaine reserve?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Property prices hit bottom and had a dead cat bounce.

    The greedy bastards aka estate agents saw this, advised everyone putting their houses on the market to put on an extra twenty per cent and are.trying to kid everyone prices are booming again.

    It is of course a bunch of gonads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    The idea that dead cats bounce is gonads too. They don't bounce, they just lie there, even if you wait ages. Sometimes I think these economists just pretend they know what they're talking about.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Property prices hit bottom and had a dead cat bounce.

    The greedy bastards aka estate agents saw this, advised everyone putting their houses on the market to put on an extra twenty per cent and are.trying to kid everyone prices are booming again.

    It is of course a bunch of gonads.

    Where? Rental prices in Dublin have gone up massively and it's 6 years since the crash started.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    Where? Rental prices in Dublin have gone up massively and it's 6 years since the crash started.

    the crash will mostly effect rural Ireland, everything inside the Pale will be ring-fenced and protected... in a similar way to what happened during the famine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Not the same for everyone. In fact we have one of the highest savings ratios in Europe. €91 billion on deposit with the banks from private individuals and about €17 billion in State Savings.

    The people that need the savings dont have it.

    Its the folks the money are sitting on it.

    Perhaps if they didnt sit on it and spent it in the real economy they could spark some jobs. But thats not the way here. Saving for more property id imagine this rolling on this perpetual ball keeping people out of homes who could prob just afford it.

    And onwards and upwards the march goes on.


    Personal debt is an insanely large issue here and remains so.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Estate Agents pushing prices up again - picking the prices "out of their arses"


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