Carl Froch vs George Groves

Nearly had a heart attack when Groves had Froch down in the first round.

I love those heart-in-mouth moments in boxing.

Like when Mosley rattled Mayweather badly and for a split second it looked like he was gone or when Marquez nailed Pac in their last fight. Moments that "shake so my single state of man" as Macbeth would say.

Anyone think DeGale beats Froch? I do, and said so before the Groves match. Would love to see it. I would now make Groves a favorite over DeGale. George has really matured and strengthened.

walshb wrote: »

Anyone think DeGale beats Froch? I do, and said so before the Groves match. Would love to see it. I would now make Groves a favorite over DeGale. George has really matured and strengthened.

I think Groves is much better now than when he beat DeGale last time out. Groves would win easily.

Groves against Ward in two or three fights time would be a more competitive fight than you might think. I'm not saying he'd win, but he'd give a good account of himself.

blade1 wrote: »

Froch saying the ref saved Groves career by stopping it.
Groves will be live in Sky Sports studio at 3.30pm.
Has Froch been on Tv since the fight?

Hahahaha ya I heard that rubbish from froch, ya he was on yesterday spouting the usual Rubbish, never seen him so busted up, groves bruises after 3 jabs he has a hatton face . But froch normally does not look as busted up

walshb wrote: »

Groves did look busted up all the same. Still, he was 3-4 points ahead on my card, maybe more. I think he could have still won had the fight went on, and I would back him in a rematch within 6 months.

Groves was badly bruised after 2 or 3 round, he marks very easy,

another spectacular cobra win by Carl “The Conqueror” Froch = LEGEND
next up is andre “roid” ward getting KtfO in UK 2014

Stop crying , groves fanboys.. george is lucky the ref stopped it or he would have sustained some serious damage in the late rounds! no way he would have survived

m not trying to take anything away from george, he’s a great fighter and he proved he is able to get in the ring with top contenders and have success..
I see him having a better chance vs andre ward , as he doesnt possess the same punching power or punch resistance as carl does

wouldnt recommend a rematch though, carl will be more serious next time..could end up killing the guy!

CtrlAltDefeat wrote: »

another spectacular cobra win by Carl “The Conqueror” Froch = LEGEND
next up is andre “roid” ward getting KtfO in UK 2014

Stop crying , groves fanboys.. george is lucky the ref stopped it or he would have sustained some serious damage in the late rounds! no way he would have survived

m not trying to take anything away from george, he’s a great fighter and he proved he is able to get in the ring with top contenders and have success..
I see him having a better chance vs andre ward , as he doesnt possess the same punching power or punch resistance as carl does

wouldnt recommend a rematch though, carl will be more serious next time..could end up killing the guy!

CtrlAltDefeat wrote: »

did you even watch the fight? Cobra got straight back up from the surprise knockdown he then walked through everything groves had to offer, CF eating numerous powerpunches to his nose and face but ultimately wore down GG and would have destroyed gassy groves if foster hadnt stepped in and saved him

i feel bad for froch , if he had been allowed to finish groves this win wouldnt be tainted, and we wouldnt be hearing all this nonsence about groves being robbed and carl doing something wrong apart from getting caught with some lethal punches like he always does

"the Invincible Man" Froch = LEGEND

Is that you Carl?
Welcome to Boards!:D

kryogen wrote: »

Am I having deja vu or was there not a very similar, if not identical post, a couple of pages back?

it is deja vu

only sad thing is froch win got tainted

How to score a Carl Froch fight

The British Boxing Board of Control (BBBoC) have noticed a level of controversy around the stoppage and scoring of this weekend’s Carl Froch-George Groves IBF title fight at super-middleweight (12st).

While we understand that Mr Groves and his team are disappointed with the conclusion of the fight and the scores the judges had recorded, we wanted to put our criteria on the record. It is fair to say that a Carl Froch fight needs to be scored differently for a number of reasons:

1. Carl Froch is a “warrior”

2. Carl Froch has an “iron chin”

3. Carl Froch is an “international superstar”

4. Carl Froch is the “champion” and any opponent must “take it” from him

We ask that referees and judges keep these issues in mind during a fight. We accept that for the casual hardcore fan however, these reasons may cause confusion as to the specific assessment our judges make during Mr Froch’s fights. To support you, and to offset any suggestion of impropriety (as the Board is and always will be above reproach or suspicion) we have compiled this quick guide to how to score a Carl Froch fight.

The criteria

1. If Carl lands more punches in the round, or the more damaging punches, he wins the round 10-9

2. If Carl’s opponent lands more punches, or the more damaging punches, Carl wins the round because “that’s how he fights”

3. If Carl is boxing on the back foot behind his jab, this is an example of his versatility and he wins the round

4. If Carl’s opponent is boxing on the back foot behind their jab, this is an example of them running away from Carl’s power, and Carl wins the round

5. If Carl punches legal, but non-scoring, areas like arms and gloves, Carl wins the round because he’s doing damage that will “pay off down the stretch”

6. If the opponent punches legal, but non-scoring, areas like arms and gloves, this is because Froch’s defence is “underrated” and his opponent is wearing himself out

7. If Carl knocks his opponent down, he wins the round 10-8 and gains additional “warrior” points* to spend throughout the remainder of the fight

8. If the opponent knocks Carl down and he gets up, this is down to his “iron chin” and Carl receives “warrior” points to spend throughout the remainder of the fight. He loses the round 10-8, but gains additional “iron chin” points. These points can be used to halt the referee from stopping the fight in your opponent’s favour – even if you have taken a career-altering beating.

Using these criteria, you can see it was correct that there was only a one-point margin in Mr Groves favour. It also explains why Howard Foster opted to stop the fight, since the amount of “iron chin” and “warrior points” Mr Froch had accumulated during the prior eight rounds left too large a gap for Mr Groves to overcome. It was the right thing to do because, as you know, the Board’s paramount concern is fighter safety.

We hope this helps with any further discussions you may engage in on this topic.

Yours,

The Board

*”Warrior” points are a relatively new addition to the BBBoC’s scoring criteria and deserve some clarification. We created them to ensure that fighters like Carl Froch, who fight with scant regard for defence or their health, have the opportunity to win fights against more skilled opposition.

For every clean shot or knockdown Carl suffers, or wild swing that he misses, he gets additional credit. He can then use these points to even up the scorecards, overlooking that unfair “defence” criterion, or in some cases encourage the referee to halt the fight in his favour when he lands any series of punches. The opponent’s condition is not a valid concern at this stage, since “warrior” points overrule any concerns about “fitness to continue”

darced wrote: »

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I do agree that comparing the two scenarios is off the mark.

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