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Which Party do you definately not want to see in the next Government?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭OttoPilot


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Utter nonsense :rolleyes:



    Wow :eek: oh really? :confused: Oh, ok thanks I see everything so clearly now :D jeez great to have insightful people like you around isn't it :P

    >>>

    You have nothing to fear but fear itself compadre. ;) Don't be afraid of the future and cling desperately to darkened past times, the future is bright, very bright indeed. :D

    The first line makes no sense... you replied before even reading my explanation :confused:

    I think people didn't like Enda because he seemed like a poor leader but he's faced a few leadership challenges since then and survived so fair play to him, perhaps he's changed people's opinion since 2009. He was always going to become taoiseach (maybe despite himself) and you would be a fool not to see that. He was the leader of the most popular opposition party at a time when govt popularity was plummeting.

    It's a lot harder to change people's opinion when they believe you're a terrorist/murderer who has escaped without prosecution. He was named as the man who gave the order for Jean McConville's execution for god's sake! Surely that would do major damage to anyone's political career.

    Haughey and Aherne were not thought to be corrupt by the public when then were running, everything only came out after, unlike with Adams. If he wants sympathy and understanding for what he may have done in the troubles then why run in the south where the majority don't know what it was like and don't really care? Whatever happened there 30/40 years ago little relevance to running the republic today. I think the general consensus south of the border is that there was wrong done on both sides and a lot of people won't accept Adams (and other senior SF members) in govt because of his part in it.

    I'm not afraid of SF getting in to power. Some of their TDs' enthusiasm and passion like Pearce Dohertys and Mary Lou McDonalds is refreshing and good to see, so why not put one of them in charge? I just think it would be a real shame to see Adams get into power because he is almost certainly lying about his level of involvement with the IRA and he would further alienate unionists from the republic. It will take a lot longer to get a united Ireland if he ever becomes Taoiseach.

    Don't cling to the past? Tell that to the families of people killed by the IRA. Ironic coming from the supporter of a party whose main goal it is to reunite a country which has been partitioned for 80+ years :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 602 ✭✭✭hotbabe1992


    Haughey and Aherne were not thought to be corrupt by the public when then were running

    To put it simply haughey and aherne got away scot free,thanks to no real opposition,ie fine gael not doing thier job,just towing the party political line in the dail ,and not really stepping on anybodys toes.

    Thats why i do not trust fine gael at their job now they werent good opposition when it counted they never came out and said these guys are a bunch of corrupt bollixes back when the crash was just about to happen.

    They went along with the line of a ''soft landing''..And oversaw a lot of brown enveloping ,devopments and shennaigans..

    They knew what was going on under their nose and done nothing about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    I think before people answer the question they should ask themselves what they expect of a government and seriously think about whether or not it is realistic.

    I see a lot of people lambasting FG for austerity budgets and implementing various taxes but, unless I'm missing something, they've had to choose between the lesser of several evils and made a decent fist of it.

    Lol at the lads saying Gerry Adams would sort out the Troika. For God's sake lads, that's Fantasyland stuff.

    Also while we have our problems, if people think Ireland is that bad you should get out more. There is a real world out there full of things that we, thankfully, don't and won't ever have to deal with.

    I think this is probably an important but overlooked point. Whoever had won the last election was always in for a few tough years ahead with hard decisions to make. I certainly dont envy FG or Lab for having that task.

    In reality they were probably the right choice, the best of a bad bunch. We could of had a lot worse tbh.

    Also i can't help but laugh at the "people who dont vote for who i want (Sinn Fein cough cough) are idiots" posts. No grip on reality there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭BMJD


    FF and everyone associated with them should be thrown into a blast furnace and vapourised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,563 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I think this is probably an important but overlooked point. Whoever had won the last election was always in for a few tough years ahead with hard decisions to make. I certainly dont envy FG or Lab for having that task.

    In reality they were probably the right choice, the best of a bad bunch. We could of had a lot worse tbh.

    Also i can't help but laugh at the "people who dont vote for who i want (Sinn Fein cough cough) are idiots" posts. No grip on reality there

    TBH I think FG make a very good government. They were handed down a mess of epic proportions, courtesy of those scum in FF, went in did what they had to do and have done a decent job steadying the ship. Have all the decisions they've taken been right, no. But they've got a lot right and are a vast improvement in every way. There's no pot of gold they can give out (see where the so-called FF "giveaway budgets" got us).

    We have certainly come a long in the 3 years since that drunken crook Cowen and Co had to bring in the IMF thanks to their own incompetence. Anyone who votes for that shower again wants their head examined IMHO.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 verbumdei


    BMJD wrote: »
    FF and everyone associated with them should be thrown into a blast furnace and vapourised.

    Why? was the whole party in government? I would not let mismanagement at the top stop me from voting for them again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,563 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    awec wrote: »
    If SF get in at least it will expose their incompetence on a national level when it comes to real issues that require a bit of thought and a sense of realism.

    I think it may be no harm to let SF in for a while. If only to show them up for the incompetent sh1t stirrers that they are. They would be forced to follow the EU/IMF Programme (because clearly there's no free money/crock of Gold).
    I'd give them 6 months to a year 'til their fantasy land deck of cards then collapses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭BMJD


    verbumdei wrote: »
    Why? was the whole party in government? I would not let mismanagement at the top stop me from voting for them again.

    Well that's not going to happen because you'll be in the blast furnace too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,563 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    verbumdei wrote: »
    Why? was the whole party in government? I would not let mismanagement at the top stop me from voting for them again.

    Whole lot of them voted for and revelled in their various and many disasterous budgets. They brought to the country to it's knees and to me those FF councillors/backbenchers who are now rewriting history and claiming it "was nothing to do with me" are akin to rats on a sinking ship.
    Not a hope in hell would I consider voting for such incompetence and they can try re-package it all they like and shirk responsibility for what they did all they like, but the facts don't lie.
    Another few years of FF in government I shudder to think what would have happened. Be like Greece I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Gerry Adams is a better politician than the Berties and Cowans imo.
    That's probably true. You have to be good to shake off terrorism and covering up child abuse to get elected (or re-elected , we'll see if he manages that too)

    He's even managed to sell the whole "tax the rich 90% and all our problems will be solved" line to a load of eejits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,363 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Definitely not FF. What they did to this country should not be forgotten in the space of one election. One generation and we will think about forgiving them, but probably won't.

    And not a great fan of the lefties and dopeheads either. They would put us into the dark ages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    its going to be a FG / LB government again - end of thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,487 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    road_high wrote: »
    I think it may be no harm to let SF in for a while. If only to show them up for the incompetent sh1t stirrers that they are. They would be forced to follow the EU/IMF Programme (because clearly there's no free money/crock of Gold).
    I'd give them 6 months to a year 'til their fantasy land deck of cards then collapses.

    What? You mean the 'magic money tree' or 'taxing the rich' isn't a plausible economic plan? Well I never.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,563 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    What? You mean the 'magic money tree' or 'taxing the rich' isn't a plausible economic plan? Well I never.....

    No. But someone has clearly never told Mary Lou and SF. Nor Micheal Martin and his merryband of dopes ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Dónal wrote: »
    The Communist Party.

    Well, At least it would make Politics interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭ElvisChrist6


    I find it funny the amount of people saying yiz would leave if the Sinners got in. You would in me hole.

    Also, it's fair enough saying you wouldn't vote for them or want them in, there are many reasons, but some people saying because they're socialist... How many of the people who started this country up again as a republic were socialist?! You don't know what colour flag shrouded oft' our martyred dead don't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,487 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    An Coilean wrote: »
    Well, At least it would make Politics interesting.

    Behold, Irelands worst designed website: http://www.communistpartyofireland.ie/

    Reminds me of this http://www.homerswebpage.com/


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    none of the above if possible.. the end result would be the same unfortunately


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    covering up child abuse to get elected (or re-elected , we'll see if he manages that too)

    :confused:


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