Carl Froch vs George Groves

PropJoe10 wrote: »

So he told the truth then.

:rolleyes:
You know nothing about boxing. how the hell is Froch a chump? if anything tonight he proved he really is a champ, just as he has done many times before.

He may not be the best boxer in the world but his chin, endurance and pure will to win is absolutely immense. How someone can not watch that fight and not have respect for froch baffles me.

Groves tonight proved a hell of a lot as well. Hopefully he has the longevity to come again.

One of the worst stoppages ive seen in a long time, no exaggeration.

Groves threw it away though by being drawn into a scrap. Froch really is impossible to hurt once hes warmed up.

The whole thing stinks to high heavens though in fairness. Whether it be a TV thing, a sanctioning body directive or whatever. The result that was best for "business" was had tonight.

What I would like to see is a transparent system where judges scoring comes under closer scrutiny, dodgy cards need to be analysed and judges in question need to be made accountable. Whatever about the farcical stoppage, it should be mandatory that judges (who can score that Groves being only 1 point ahead by the time the fight was stopped) need to explain themselves.

Its not good enough to talk about "what fight was he/she watching". Something needs to be done right now.

Secondly, judges/referees backgrounds need to be checked more thoroughly. Financial records, the whole lot. Something stank about that stoppage, the ref didn't even look Groves in the eye before waving it off. Either hes grossly incompetent at his job, or else hes on an earner from someone who knows whats best for business.

Its becoming a joke in the UK, don't forget the Burns v Beltran fight aswell which had a farcical element to it aswell.

Its simply not good enough to say such things cause "lively debate" etc... questions need to be answered.

For what its worth, I have no preference for either Froch or Groves, every boxing fan knows Froch's limitations. pre fight, the debate amongst those who know boxing was whether Groves had the where with all to expose these limitations and he did that for 7-8 rounds in quite emphatic fashion.

The boxing powers that be have now seemingly created their own narrative in order to milk more money for "the rematch" which Eddie Hearn quite ashamedly mentioned straight after the fight no less.

For me, it was clearly not a level playing field in that ring tonight, The champ was given multiple warnings (and in some rounds not warned at all) for hitting after the bell and using forearms on multiple occasions.

Again, this is either a case of a grossly incompetent referee or else something alot more worrying (a way of hopefully doing whats best for business).

Watched a "Big Fight" again with friends (who can kinda take it or leave it) and was embarrassed to have to defend questions once again as to why we follow such a clearly corrupt sport.

Anyway rant over.

On a side not, Froch strikes me as a very insecure individual. The booing at the end is probably worse to him than any KO he could suffer. He mentioned the word "respect" about 10 times in a bizarre post fight rant justifying his win. Was quite funny to see him salute the crowd at the end when they were booing quite loudly its as if his pride wouldn't allow him to acknowledge thats what was happening so was best for him to block it out. When a guy has to constantly ask for respect and remind folks that he is to be respected then its hard to maintain the sentiment.

Terrific heart and extraordinary chin but hes nothing special really.

Credit where credit is due, Froch's durability is something else. To eat shots the way he does and keep going is amazing.

He probably would of stopped Groves in the end but thats besides the point, the ref should never of stopped that, it was a championship match for **** sake and the ref headlocks Groves and stops it early? ridiculous stuff.

Im not sure if Froch would be all that keen on a rematch, I can't see what he could change, where as George can fix a few things and make it an easier nights work, he'd outbox him any night of the week.

Groves should never of engaged in a war with Froch, it was a huge mistake and he suffered because of it.

As for Ward-Froch again, id be very suprised if this ever happened now after seeing this fight.

Froch will probably take the mandatory defense aand retire, it's the most sensibly thing to do now as Groves and Ward have his number and no what he's about. He really got out of jail tonight thanks to that ref.

Anyone who thinks the fight was stopped too early should watch Perez v Abdusalamov. Better to stop a fight a round too early than a minute too late....there were 3.5 rounds left and I think it was only going one way...