Gardaí smash travelling gang.

P. Breathnach · 22-11-2013 07:06PM

Hitchens wrote: »

the tipping point will be reached eventually, the vote will be in favour of bringing it back, and it will merely be a choice of which system to use

There is little doubt about the preferred system: stoning by the AH mob without the inconvenience of a trial.

Hootanany · 22-11-2013 07:19PM

end of the road wrote: »

because the guardai don't have any evidence, and their not going to pluck some out of thin air or make up some just to please you

We could get some Raphoe Gaurds down if you want.

kupus · 22-11-2013 07:28PM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

There is little doubt about the preferred system: stoning by the AH mob without the inconvenience of a trial.

Well whats the point of having a justice system that just gives them a slap on the wrist and out in 3 months, to continue what they were doing before they were locked up.

Im going to go with a guess here and say the combined convictions of the 7 arrested will be more than 50 with one of the convictions being a previous house invasion.

A_Sober_Paddy · 22-11-2013 07:30PM

Candie wrote: »

Well done to the Gardai.

Judges aren't always able to hand down the sentences they want, and they aren't all as useless as the ones who make the headlines. I'd also expect someone at the very top tier of their profession to be paid well, but apparently I'm in the minority with that one.

That poor family though, especially those small kids. It's going to take a long time and a lot of patience to get them past that trauma.

Been told its a mixture of the judges and DPP being incompetent

Hootanany · 22-11-2013 07:49PM

Well they are Politically appointed so its horses for courses.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 08:05PM

Mint Aero wrote: »

I haven't mentioned travellers anywhere in this thread. Where are you getting your info from that the perpetrators of this crime were or weren't travellers?

I wasn't replying to you.

Mint Aero · 22-11-2013 08:21PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

I wasn't replying to you.

I know

Freddy Smelly · 22-11-2013 08:22PM

Rightwing wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/cross-country-car-chase-ends-in-dramatic-scenes-in-west-dublin-29773178.html

The garda swoops came after a seven-strong gang forced their way into a house at Burnchurch, Killenaule, around 3am.
They terrorised a man and his wife their three children, all girls under the age of 8 and demanded cash.
The parents were tied up during their horrific ordeal as members of the gang robbed cash, jewellery and other property from the house.

A huge well done to these Gardaí, heroes of society. Just a shame the judges don't pull their weight. Huge salaries, and what will they do, probably issue a suspended sentence.
Something needs to be done about this type of thuggery, judges need to up their game, and make a severe example of these thugs.

i bet with the judges we have they all get out on suspended sentences after playing the race card

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 08:24PM

Freddy Smelly wrote: »

i bet with the judges we have they all get out on suspended sentences after playing the race card

Since when has been a Northside Dubliner been a "Race"?

emo72 · 22-11-2013 08:31PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Since when has been a Northside Dubliner been a "Race"?

some of them were travellers. not that it means anything. good and bad in all walks of life. but these guys are the worse people you could ever come accross.

sasta le · 22-11-2013 08:31PM

Read somewhere the victims business does business with a traveller gang/traders so they would be a degree of risk

emo72 · 22-11-2013 08:35PM

sasta le wrote: »

Read somewhere the victims business does business with a traveller gang/traders so they would be a degree of risk

you cant turn people away just because they are travellers. the victims are good people and treat everyone equally. unfortunately this gang see this as an opportunity.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 08:36PM

emo72 wrote: »

some of them were travellers.

No they weren't, they are career criminals from Coolock, and one from Phibsboro.

emo72 · 22-11-2013 08:38PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

No they weren't, they are career criminals from Coolock, and one from Phibsboro.

career criminals can also be travellers? it is possible.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 08:40PM

emo72 wrote: »

career criminals can also be travellers? it is possible.

Oh true, just in this case they weren't, unless you have some proof to the contrary.

The Rad Runner · 22-11-2013 08:40PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

No they weren't, they are career criminals from Coolock, and one from Phibsboro.

How do you know this?

Mint Aero · 22-11-2013 08:42PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Oh true, just in this case they weren't, unless you have some proof to the contrary.

It's been reported that they were extended travellers

do you have proof to the contrary?

Clutching at straws :rolleyes:

emo72 · 22-11-2013 08:43PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Oh true, just in this case they weren't, unless you have some proof to the contrary.

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/brutal-tipperary-gang-told-parents-2836600

first google result i got. however as i said yesterday i know the victims.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 08:47PM

Mint Aero wrote: »

It's been reported that they were extended travellers do you have proof to the contrary?

Clutching at straws :rolleyes:

Its been reported!!!:D:D:D:D
What extended? stretched like!

Only ones clutching at straws are the ones trying to associate these scumbags with Pavee Point! Pathetic really.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 08:49PM

emo72 wrote: »

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/brutal-tipperary-gang-told-parents-2836600

first google result i got. however as i said yesterday i know the victims.

Yes and you were wrong yesterday, nobody shoved screwdrivers up anybodys nose, and the please "The Mirror", get real!
That said I'm sure we can all agree that these are utter scum who deserve little more than they gave, I have no sympathy with them and hope they get locked up for good!

Mint Aero · 22-11-2013 08:52PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Its been reported!!!:D:D:D:D
What extended? stretched like!

Only ones clutching at straws are the ones trying to associate these scumbags with Pavee Point! Pathetic really.

I didn't mention Pavee Point. You also said Dublin teens

They're in their 20's like, man read the papers before posting on something you've no clue about.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 08:57PM

Mint Aero wrote: »

I didn't mention Pavee Point. You also said Dublin teens They're in their 20's like, man read the papers before posting on something you've no clue about.

Never once used the word teens.I never said you mentioned Pavee Point.

Whistles while awaiting apology.

swht · 22-11-2013 08:58PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Its been reported!!!:D:D:D:D
What extended? stretched like!

Only ones clutching at straws are the ones trying to associate these scumbags with Pavee Point! Pathetic really.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/seven-arrested-after-family-held-hostage-in-tipperary-1.1602532

The Irish Times has also reported it, they are considered the newspaper of record in this country.

Do you feel their information is incorrect, if so why, you've avoided this question repeatedly.

emo72 · 22-11-2013 09:00PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Yes and you were wrong yesterday, nobody shoved screwdrivers up anybodys nose, and the please "The Mirror", get real!
That said I'm sure we can all agree that these are utter scum who deserve little more than they gave, I have no sympathy with them and hope they get locked up for good!

okay, you seem to be on a mission here. no problem. how do you know about the screwdriver. it certainly wasnt reported. i got that directly from them. but yeah it wasnt reported. you are suggesting i made that up. why would i do that?

it was just to give an idea of the ordeal they went through. mark is lovely guy and well liked. i cant believe this happened to his family. i have a young daughter too, cant comprehend this myself.

Mint Aero · 22-11-2013 09:01PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Never once used the word teens.I never said you mentioned Pavee Point.

Whistles while awaiting apology.

Haha sneaky ninja edit

well done, very mature :rolleyes:

John_Rambo · 22-11-2013 09:06PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

That said I'm sure we can all agree that these are utter scum who deserve little more than they gave, I have no sympathy with them and hope they get locked up for good!

Agreed. On a personal level, I'd like to see these particular ones thrown out of Dublin and back to where they came from!

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 09:10PM

gonzo.phd wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/seven-arrested-after-family-held-hostage-in-tipperary-1.1602532

The Irish Times has also reported it, they are considered the newspaper of record in this country.

Do you feel their information is incorrect, if so why, you've avoided this question repeatedly.

Having read numerous reports from numerous reporters in the Times,Indo, and Examiner I can find one reference by one reporter to a claim that some
of these mindless thugs, may have extended links to travellers.
Not only is that far from convincing it is highly speculative.I have however found persistent and consistent reports that this is a gang of young northsiders mostly from Coolock who have a history of violent crime, obviously I find that more convincing.
Either way I hope the fúkers die screaming, ok.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 09:12PM

Mint Aero wrote: »

Haha sneaky ninja edit well done, very mature :rolleyes:

Try reading the post, it wasn't edited, if it had been it would say edited and by whom.

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see

swht · 22-11-2013 09:16PM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Having read numerous reports from numerous reporters in the Times,Indo, and Examiner I can find one reference by one reporter to a claim that some
of these mindless thugs, may have extended links to travellers.
Not only is that far from convincing it is highly speculative.I have however found persistent and consistent reports that this is a gang of young northsiders mostly from Coolock who have a history of violent crime, obviously I find that more convincing.
Either way I hope the fúkers die screaming, ok.

Actually it states that they are members of an extended traveller family.

There are travellers from Coolock, the terms traveller and young northsiders are not mutually exclusive.

Not one single report has contradicted the Irish Times reporting and they have not printed a correction or removed the article.

EDIT: The Irish times article does not say may as you have in bold above

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 22-11-2013 09:22PM

gonzo.phd wrote: »

Actually it states that they are members of an extended traveller family.

There are travellers from Coolock, the terms traveller and young northsiders are not mutually exclusive.

Not one single report has contradicted the Irish Times reporting and they have not printed a correction or removed the article.

EDIT: The Irish times article does not say may as you have in bold above

Bollocks why would print a retraction on what they themselves have couched in the broadest possible terms!
And it does not state that they are members of an extended Traveller family (whatever defuq that means), it states some of them are understood to be.
Again either way I am not defending the bastárds, so I fail to see what your issue is.

Edit:
PS From todays Irish Times
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/tipperary-raid-gang-a-key-target-of-special-garda-operation-1.1603321
Not a mention of any Traveller connection.

Gardaí smash travelling gang.

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